I'm getting more excited now about an Elizabeth Warren run for 2020 as our

[GeneMcM]

101. you have to deal with the reality of what is.

whatever far left is in Scandinavia is irrelevant. Whatever someone thinks far left was 70 years ago is irrelevant. in today's political climate she is second to Sanders on the left scale. That won't fly outside of New England (and by New England I mean Vermont and MAYBE Mass) and a few regional west coast cities. And she doesn't appeal to minorities either which is a huge problem in it's own.

She appeals to the most liberal of the left. I get that they like her and it's their right to do so. The mistake is in thinking that enthusiasm is universal once stepping outside of these areas. It's a lesson the left never learns and outright deludes themselves over. For example they talk about the razor thing margin Clinton lost Wisconsin to all the time and insist she should have run further to the left (she ran well to the left of my comfort as a Midwesterner familiar with the culture) But they never notice that Russ Feingold and other further left candidates lost by much bigger margins than did Clinton. It doesn't fit with the fantasy that running to the left in a center-right country is going to finally work.