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In reply to the discussion: Anti-Trump protesters risk 60 years in jail. Is dissent a crime? [View all]ancianita
(43,312 posts)assault in this latest GOP tax bill. Prove that women's Roe v. Wade's rights simply exist. A number of court cases have already stripped women of access to those fought-for rights that SCOTUS claimed simply exist.
Like the people's Constitutional 1st and 4th Amendment rights are stripped under the Patriot Act:
Wiretapping authority (secs. 120, 121)
Civil asset forfeiture powers (sec. 427, 428)
New death penalties (sec. 411)
Unprecedented power of the government to revoke American citizenship even of native-born Americans and detain them indefinitely (sec. 501)
Due process of law to immigrants
Habeas corpus"national security letters"" to obtain confidential library, Internet and bookstore records - without going to court at all (secs. 128, 129).
https://www.aclu.org/other/aclu-fact-sheet-patriot-act-ii
By your logic, the above "rights" simply exist, and people never got to do any of those things, and if they did, they have been stripped by the government that "doesn't get to do."
By your logic the people still have these rights.
My point is: People now have to fight for them in the courts proves they do not exist.
Prove they simply exist outside fighting for them in the courts.
This country under the Patriot Act was officially labeled a "battleground" in the 2011 National Defense Authorization Act.
Under the worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial
provision of S.1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill, which is
set to be up for a vote on the Senate floor this week, the legislation
will basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part
of the battlefield, said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who supports the
bill.
Section 1031 essentially repeals the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 by
authorizing the U.S. military to perform law enforcement functions on
American soil...
Americans could be declared domestic terrorists and thrown in a
military brig with no recourse whatsoever. Given that the Department of
Homeland Security has characterized behavior such as buying gold, owning
guns, using a watch or binoculars, donating to charity, using the
telephone or email to find information, using cash, and all manner of
mundane behaviors as potential indicators of domestic terrorism...
https://www.snopes.com/politics/military/ndaa.asp
Including protestors.
These are facts about how our rights don't "simply exist." Therefore dissent is a crime. How it is enforced can be soft (Obama and Occupy) or hard (Trump and the 'feds' moving on Chicago).
That's why I said the state's war of attrition is on. That war's been on since our elected officials decided that stripping people of what they "get to do" is for Americans' own protection.
"Not gonna happen" depends on the random judgment of prosecutors and a court. Yet, by law
it's already happened. Not one of us is legally exempt, except to fight for these rights.
Test Sessions or any federal prosecutors and see what happens.