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ancianita

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12. Like women's 1st Amendment rights to privacy under Roe v. Wade simply exist. Now under
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 10:48 AM
Nov 2017

assault in this latest GOP tax bill. Prove that women's Roe v. Wade's rights simply exist. A number of court cases have already stripped women of access to those fought-for rights that SCOTUS claimed simply exist.

Like the people's Constitutional 1st and 4th Amendment rights are stripped under the Patriot Act:

Wiretapping authority (secs. 120, 121)
Civil asset forfeiture powers (sec. 427, 428)
New death penalties (sec. 411)
Unprecedented power of the government to revoke American citizenship even of native-born Americans and detain them indefinitely (sec. 501)
Due process of law to immigrants
Habeas corpus"national security letters"" to obtain confidential library, Internet and bookstore records - without going to court at all (secs. 128, 129).


https://www.aclu.org/other/aclu-fact-sheet-patriot-act-ii

By your logic, the above "rights" simply exist, and people never got to do any of those things, and if they did, they have been stripped by the government that "doesn't get to do."

By your logic the people still have these rights.

My point is: People now have to fight for them in the courts proves they do not exist.

Prove they simply exist outside fighting for them in the courts.

This country under the Patriot Act was officially labeled a "battleground" in the 2011 National Defense Authorization Act.

Under the ‘worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial’
provision of S.1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill, which is
set to be up for a vote on the Senate floor this week, the legislation
will “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part
of the battlefield,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who supports the
bill.

Section 1031 essentially repeals the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 by
authorizing the U.S. military to perform law enforcement functions on
American soil...

Americans could be declared domestic terrorists and thrown in a
military brig with no recourse whatsoever. Given that the Department of
Homeland Security has characterized behavior such as buying gold, owning
guns, using a watch or binoculars, donating to charity, using the
telephone or email to find information, using cash, and all manner of
mundane behaviors as potential indicators of domestic terrorism...

https://www.snopes.com/politics/military/ndaa.asp

Including protestors.

These are facts about how our rights don't "simply exist." Therefore dissent is a crime. How it is enforced can be soft (Obama and Occupy) or hard (Trump and the 'feds' moving on Chicago).

That's why I said the state's war of attrition is on. That war's been on since our elected officials decided that stripping people of what they "get to do" is for Americans' own protection.

"Not gonna happen" depends on the random judgment of prosecutors and a court. Yet, by law

it's already happened. Not one of us is legally exempt, except to fight for these rights.

Test Sessions or any federal prosecutors and see what happens.


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THis is not going to happen malaise Nov 2017 #1
Rights don't exist by declaration. The legal war of attrition on the Constitution is beginning. ancianita Nov 2017 #10
Actually, Both The Constitution And The Declaration. . . ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #11
Like women's 1st Amendment rights to privacy under Roe v. Wade simply exist. Now under ancianita Nov 2017 #12
Tedious Reading ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #13
You really don't want to understand what I said, either. At least I quoted you and linked supports. ancianita Nov 2017 #16
Fighting The Battle With An Ally ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #17
No. You. I don't fight. I defend my points, and you "correct," "clarify" without addressing ancianita Nov 2017 #18
Redux ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #19
WTF??!!???!!!!!! secondwind Nov 2017 #2
Sounds like some banana republic country. Nt raccoon Nov 2017 #3
If they get away with this mountain grammy Nov 2017 #4
KGOP republicans* immediately wrapped their greazey hands around America's throat Achilleaze Nov 2017 #5
Republican Wonderland, eliminate the 1st amendment and enshrine the 2nd. Amimnoch Nov 2017 #6
In dictatorships dissent is always a crime. Prosecutors become henchmen, not counsel. ancianita Nov 2017 #7
I looked up the federal rioting law Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #8
Can those 200 people have all had *intent* to damage property? moriah Nov 2017 #14
all hail to putin. we need to get this bastard out of our white house. spanone Nov 2017 #9
what has happened to our country? ....trump. spanone Nov 2017 #15
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