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30. Unfortunately, a lot of science is propaganda.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:37 PM
Mar 2015

For example, tobacco industry scientists routinely skewed their results:

http://www.ucsf.edu/news/2012/01/11261/tobacco-company-misrepresented-danger-cigarettes-study-finds

Tobacco Company Misrepresented Danger from Cigarettes, Study Finds
Toxicity Levels Obscured, Increasing Risks of Heart Disease, Cancer
By Elizabeth Fernandez on January 06, 2012 | Email | Print

A new UCSF analysis of tobacco industry documents shows that Philip Morris USA manipulated data on the effects of additives in cigarettes, including menthol, obscuring actual toxicity levels and increasing the risk of heart, cancer and other diseases for smokers.

Tobacco industry information can’t be taken at face value, the researchers conclude. They say their work provides evidence that hundreds of additives, including menthol, should be eliminated from cigarettes on public health grounds.

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They also found, after obtaining evidence that additives increased toxicity, that tobacco scientists adjusted the protocol for presenting their results in a way that obscured these increases.

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The results of “Project MIX” were first published as four papers in a 2002 edition of Food and Chemical Toxicology, a journal whose editor and many members of its editorial board had financial ties to the tobacco industry. While Philip Morris was trying to get the papers published, the company scientist who led Project Mix sent an email to a colleague describing the peer review process as an inside job.

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You see the same thing with the nuclear industry, pharmaceutical industry, fossil fuel industries, etc.

That's why watchdog groups like CMD, UCS, and others are so important.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/
http://www.ucsusa.org/
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2012/04/beyond-coal-plant-activism

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The "scientific theories" that permitted freaky Dr. No to do heart transplants was not tested by religion. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #1
I think the religious freaks won the Scopes tial. n/t rickford66 Mar 2015 #8
Scopes was found guilty, but later overturned on tech Panich52 Mar 2015 #11
Agreed. Scopes was found guilty at the trial. n/t rickford66 Mar 2015 #13
News Flash Fred Friendlier Mar 2015 #46
You be friendly with the science deniers and Man in the Sky folks, I will continue my snark, OK? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #49
Yes, yes. We all know there is NEVER a correct time to say anything Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #54
This IS the 21st century, right? gregcrawford Mar 2015 #2
"A person’s religious beliefs are the things that make them who they are, gives them a direction..." LiberalElite Mar 2015 #3
Come on. Atheists worship Satan. Everybody knows that! DetlefK Mar 2015 #5
True. I should'a known better. nt LiberalElite Mar 2015 #9
And which specific religious tenets taught Carson to whore for Fox News? n/t Orsino Mar 2015 #23
he thinks he's Mary Magdalene. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #47
Sometime, it directs them to kill people daleo Mar 2015 #42
Right now that direction HoosierCowboy Mar 2015 #53
A better use for religion in medicine is to transubstantiate internal organs from bread. Gore1FL Mar 2015 #4
The idea that science might just be propaganda suggests ignorance of what science is. Maineman Mar 2015 #6
Unfortunately, a lot of science is propaganda. bananas Mar 2015 #30
Manipulating research results bvf Mar 2015 #36
a lot of science? Fred Friendlier Mar 2015 #45
Vatican should have let the Scienist free..... Cryptoad Mar 2015 #7
Wonder if his medical training at Johns Hopkins University was science based or just propaganda. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #10
And just what part of religion is NOT propaganda? Panich52 Mar 2015 #12
Well, it is ... uh ... Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #20
Crazy talk. blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #14
"Science flies you to the Moon. Religion flies you into buildings." lastlib Mar 2015 #15
“Maybe those things aren’t scientific. Maybe it’s just propaganda." William Seger Mar 2015 #16
Let's bring back "Trial by ordeal" wolfie001 Mar 2015 #17
Sir Bedevere: "And what do we use to burn witches??" hifiguy Mar 2015 #35
Oh there's propaganda going on here for sure.... n/t Adrahil Mar 2015 #18
At this point it's clear that he's pandering to the nut jobs MrScorpio Mar 2015 #19
I think he really is that wacko. immoderate Mar 2015 #29
Whatever he's doing can be percieved in different ways MrScorpio Mar 2015 #37
Uh-huh. I'm just guessing. immoderate Mar 2015 #39
I love this new trope-Republicans used to be reasonable- in 1992 RNC Keynote Speech was Pat Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #50
There is no such thing as a 'scientific' belief. There is scientific method which produces Monk06 Mar 2015 #21
the product of the method is tentative "beliefs" that can be discarded if better evidence yurbud Mar 2015 #22
Not only that, the essence of the scientific method is self-correction hifiguy Mar 2015 #34
I highly recommend Thomas S Kuhn Fred Friendlier Mar 2015 #44
while it seems oddly true that anyone who tries to escape theology ends up leaping headfirst right MisterP Mar 2015 #24
What tone would be appropriate to combat this horse shit, I wonder. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #25
Comedy Turbineguy Mar 2015 #26
It's comedy until you realize bvf Mar 2015 #38
I say the United States should suspend his license to practice medicine Half-Century Man Mar 2015 #27
I saw this and wanted to puke. Cary Mar 2015 #28
Using religion to validate science? What a stupid, assholey thing to say. nt valerief Mar 2015 #31
Gravity - Newton's Greatest Propaganda Hoax! Doctor_J Mar 2015 #32
This is so far beyond the cretinous, incredulous and imbecilic hifiguy Mar 2015 #33
Why does Meet the Press have Ben Carson on in the first place? Is he that relevant? He's crazy. YOHABLO Mar 2015 #40
Uhhhhhh shenmue Mar 2015 #41
Ben Carson is an idiot Fred Friendlier Mar 2015 #43
"Not believing" versus "Believing." Foolishness. truthisfreedom Mar 2015 #48
They need to go back and read the definition of the word propaganda Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #51
Not Enough... HoosierCowboy Mar 2015 #52
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