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In reply to the discussion: Anti-Semitic attackers yelling 'we will kill you' storm synagogue in London [View all]Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)45. From the video, it does indeed look like a personal issue between those three
Does the video tell the complete story? No, certainly not. But what it depicts is what i described.
And yes, the dude's posturing, insults, catcalls, and threats drove the conflict.
It's a conflict between the six invaders and the people inside the synagogue. As the police report indicates. Because they arrested all six invaders. And arrested none of the people inside the synagogue, including the Jew you fault for being too mouthy towards the invaders.
I don't fault him for "being too mouthy," I fault him for the fact what he was doing contributed to the risk other people around him faced. You acknowledge it "wasn't helpful," well that's what that fucking MEANS. He was trying to keep the fight hot. This could have resulted in people in the shul getting hurt worse than they were - particularly the Rabbi and Chair Guy, seeing as they were right there at the door, and would have taken the brunt if those assholes outside had done what Fur Hoodie Guy was encouraging them to do. While standing in the back.
The blame of course falls on the assholes doing the attacking. But Fur Hoodie Guy deserves plenty of criticism for what he was doing in the situation as well.
I italicize to show you that these are different concepts, and you are clearly unaware of that fact.
I think you have internalized too much of the Israel/Palestine debate. Your take on the events here was egregiously inaccurate in just about every aspect, and aligned perfectly with the stance you take vis a vis Israel/Palestine in terms not of actual behavior, but rather the religion of the participants.
You think so? That's nice. I think you're looking for a fight, know you can't actually get one, and have to make up shit in order to try to get a rise.
it's interesting how "my take" is entirely your imagination.
Maybe you ought to go look for a middle school brawl with someone else, geek. Fur Hoodie Guy might oblige you, but more likely, he'd just run and hide and hope you beat up his rabbi instead.
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Anti-Semitic attackers yelling 'we will kill you' storm synagogue in London [View all]
Mosby
Mar 2015
OP
Really? You think the *only* reason anyone would ever attack Jews is because of Israel?
harrose
Mar 2015
#62
Thank heaven, someone who knows history. Last year in reading a book on Nazi Germany there was
appalachiablue
Mar 2015
#95
I suggest you look into what anti-Semitism is and how long it has been around....
Behind the Aegis
Mar 2015
#68
Yes it was, and it wasn't just in Europe either. It has happened in the US also
still_one
Mar 2015
#76
yeah, because those fuckers are just heartbroken over Palestinians and care about deal with IRan
JI7
Mar 2015
#18
These thugs are bigots because they are bigots, not because of what happens
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#23
How about millennia of lies distortion and propaganda against the Jewish people?
ismnotwasm
Mar 2015
#93
Well, you were completely wrong about this, it was a bunch of thugs invading
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#28
That is false equivalence, blaming the VICTIM for defending his own synagogue against violent
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#34
You gave most (4/6) of the invaders a complete free pass, and you purposefully ignored the invasion
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#39
that's a really bizarre take on it. You have Jews cornered inside their own synagogue
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#27
While completely ignorning the context that the Jews were cornered inside a room inside their
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#30
He wasn't defending shit, he wanted to whip his dick around and didn't care who got hurt for his ego
Scootaloo
Mar 2015
#33
Once again, you give the invaders a complete pass for their act of provocation and
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#35
From the video, it does indeed look like a personal issue between those three
Scootaloo
Mar 2015
#45
"the dude's posturing, insults, catcalls, and threats drove the conflict. "
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#47
The fact is, if one is opposed to crimes motivated by bias against religion, one opposes all such
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#41
Jews and Muslims in Europe are political allies in the struggle against racism and bigotry.
Fred Sanders
Mar 2015
#42
I'm so glad the actions of some Jews make you apparently indifferent to attacks on any Jews anywhere
Unvanguard
Mar 2015
#65
Can I suggest changing the Title word "attackers" to "Attack" - so it will fit Twitter?
laserhaas
Mar 2015
#60