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In reply to the discussion: Anti-Semitic attackers yelling 'we will kill you' storm synagogue in London [View all]geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)46. Except you still clung to the false narrative.
definitely looks like it's a personal thing between Furry Hoodie guy and the two outside
As has been established beyond any possible doubt, it was not a 'personal thing' between this guy and two individuals on the outside. It was a gang of drunk thugs invading a synagogue, resulting in a dispute between (a) the gang of thuggish invaders and (b) the people inside trying to defend themselves.
And you attribute a malicious motive to the guy who's being belligerent, instead of acknowledging that maybe he's just amped up on adrenaline and scared. Yes, you may know how brawlers operate, but this guy is not a brawler. He's some skinny kid at saturday evening worship service cornered in a room by violent invaders who's running on hormones.
This is not a "testosterone fight"--it's a violent invasion with people who were not looking for a fight suddenly cornered and forced into a fight. When people are forced into a fight, on a hormonal level they respond with aggression in turn. This is programmed into our DNA and biochemistry.
And, still this line?
t's largely driven by two assholes attacking the door
From the article:
According to local sources in Stamford Hill, which is home to one of the largest ultra-Orthodox Jewish communities in Europe, the incident started at a house in the neighborhood where a party was ending and a number of young drunken men and women spilled out onto the street, starting a fight with two Jewish men who were not religious nor wearing a kippa.
After considerable pushing and shoving, the Jewish men decided to take refuge in the entrance hall to the nearby Ahavas Torah Synagogue.
The two men reached the synagogue area of the building, seeking the help of those inside, who taking part in a communal meal.
Those inside the synagogue, having already called the police, were left alone for approximately 15 minutes to fend off repeated attempts by the youths to enter the synagogue. Those inside used parts of broken chairs and mops for protection. Other furniture was broken as the drunken troublemakers attempted to reach the two men When the police arrived, several of the assailants were reportedly chased down nearby streets until six were caught, cautioned, arrested and subsequently held in custody.
After considerable pushing and shoving, the Jewish men decided to take refuge in the entrance hall to the nearby Ahavas Torah Synagogue.
The two men reached the synagogue area of the building, seeking the help of those inside, who taking part in a communal meal.
Those inside the synagogue, having already called the police, were left alone for approximately 15 minutes to fend off repeated attempts by the youths to enter the synagogue. Those inside used parts of broken chairs and mops for protection. Other furniture was broken as the drunken troublemakers attempted to reach the two men When the police arrived, several of the assailants were reportedly chased down nearby streets until six were caught, cautioned, arrested and subsequently held in custody.
Given that six people were arrested, hard to imagine how one comes up with the idea that it was just two assholes, plus one guy who was insufficiently gracious to their presence, who were to blame.,
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Anti-Semitic attackers yelling 'we will kill you' storm synagogue in London [View all]
Mosby
Mar 2015
OP
Really? You think the *only* reason anyone would ever attack Jews is because of Israel?
harrose
Mar 2015
#62
Thank heaven, someone who knows history. Last year in reading a book on Nazi Germany there was
appalachiablue
Mar 2015
#95
I suggest you look into what anti-Semitism is and how long it has been around....
Behind the Aegis
Mar 2015
#68
Yes it was, and it wasn't just in Europe either. It has happened in the US also
still_one
Mar 2015
#76
yeah, because those fuckers are just heartbroken over Palestinians and care about deal with IRan
JI7
Mar 2015
#18
These thugs are bigots because they are bigots, not because of what happens
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#23
How about millennia of lies distortion and propaganda against the Jewish people?
ismnotwasm
Mar 2015
#93
Well, you were completely wrong about this, it was a bunch of thugs invading
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#28
That is false equivalence, blaming the VICTIM for defending his own synagogue against violent
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#34
You gave most (4/6) of the invaders a complete free pass, and you purposefully ignored the invasion
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#39
that's a really bizarre take on it. You have Jews cornered inside their own synagogue
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#27
While completely ignorning the context that the Jews were cornered inside a room inside their
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#30
He wasn't defending shit, he wanted to whip his dick around and didn't care who got hurt for his ego
Scootaloo
Mar 2015
#33
Once again, you give the invaders a complete pass for their act of provocation and
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#35
From the video, it does indeed look like a personal issue between those three
Scootaloo
Mar 2015
#45
"the dude's posturing, insults, catcalls, and threats drove the conflict. "
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#47
The fact is, if one is opposed to crimes motivated by bias against religion, one opposes all such
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#41
Jews and Muslims in Europe are political allies in the struggle against racism and bigotry.
Fred Sanders
Mar 2015
#42
I'm so glad the actions of some Jews make you apparently indifferent to attacks on any Jews anywhere
Unvanguard
Mar 2015
#65
Can I suggest changing the Title word "attackers" to "Attack" - so it will fit Twitter?
laserhaas
Mar 2015
#60