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proverbialwisdom

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13. Details, details... Name-calling and false memes are so much simpler.
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:23 PM
May 2015

1) Take up his challenge.

http://fox13now.com/2015/04/06/robert-f-kennedy-jr-talks-about-link-between-ingredient-in-vaccines-and-autism/

“If somebody can show me a single study, one study, if any of the doctors you’ve mentioned can show me a single study that shows that thimerosal is safe, I will go on Anderson Cooper and publicly apologize. I challenge you. Find me one study.”

~Robert F. Kennedy Jr.



2) Read the letter by Salon's founder dated 4/6/15, plus full rebuttal.

http://www.robertfkennedyjr.com/articles/SalonRetraction_042415.html

...My critics have widely cited the Salon retraction to discredit me and the proposition that thimerosal is a potent neurotoxin that should not be in medicines. In recent weeks, newspaper editors and television producers have cited Salon’s action as justification for their decision to not run my editorials, articles and letters to the editor or to allow me to talk about vaccine safety on the air. I now briefly review the history of Salon’s withdrawal.

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Salon’s founder and former editor-in-chief, David Talbot, was likewise baffled and dismayed by Salon’s actions. He explained his reaction in a letter to me on April 6, 2015:

"I was dismayed when I first heard that Salon had removed your article about the hazards of thimerosal from its web archives. As you know, I was no longer the editor of Salon when your article was published. And I am not an expert on the subject. But without taking a position on mercury preservatives in vaccines, I know enough about the debate -- and about the pharmaceutical industry's general track record on putting profits before people, as well as the compromised nature of regulatory oversight in this country when it comes to powerful industries -- to know that "disappearing" your article was not the proper decision.

I founded Salon to be a fearless and independent publication -- one that was open to a wide range of views, particularly those that were controversial or contested within the mainstream media. Removing your article from the Salon archives was a violation of that spirit and smacks of editorial cowardice. If I had been editor at the time, I would not have done so -- and I would have offered you the opportunity to debate your critics in Salon's pages.

In my day, Salon did not cave to pressure -- and we risked corporate media scorn, advertising boycotts, threats of FBI investigations by powerful members of Congress, and even bomb scares because of our rigorous independence. Throwing a writer to the wolves when the heat got too hot was never the Salon way. It pains me, now that I'm on the sidelines, to ever see Salon wilt in the face of such pressure.”
Testimony by RFK, Jr. before the Vermont House Health Care Committee on May 5, 2015 proverbialwisdom May 2015 #1
Vaccines are safe and effective. RFK Jr. is an ignorant anti-vax kook. longship May 2015 #2
Read the first sentence and the article. RFK Jr. is pro-vaccine, anti-mercury. Bernardo de La Paz May 2015 #3
No. RFK Jr. is the one ignorant of the science. longship May 2015 #4
+1000 nt Javaman May 2015 #5
Glad you got this in GoneOffShore May 2015 #6
And I'm sure David Duke has black friends. Irrelevant to the fact that RFK Jr geek tragedy May 2015 #8
then why is he agitating like Thiomersal hasn't been removed from most vaccines? CreekDog May 2015 #23
Details, details... Name-calling and false memes are so much simpler. proverbialwisdom May 2015 #13
There is no thimerosal in vaccines. What do you and RFK, Jr. not understand about that? randome May 2015 #16
Sorry, wrong. Read this again, carefully, including Senior CDC Scientist Dr. WW Thompson's warning. proverbialwisdom May 2015 #18
and this isn't a required vaccine CreekDog May 2015 #24
No, look it up by state. It's a requirement in CT, NJ, RI, NYC for daycare, preschool. proverbialwisdom May 2015 #26
there is no requirement to take a vaccine with Thiomersal CreekDog May 2015 #27
How about a properly functioning FDA and CDC rather than this "buyer beware" situation? proverbialwisdom May 2015 #29
I'm impressed at your creative ability to move the goal posts... LanternWaste May 2015 #31
changing the subject again? CreekDog May 2015 #33
Plus, he is an ignorant liar. longship May 2015 #17
I'm in the weeds here, but so are you. Definition of "trace amount" differs by agency FDA, CDC, EPA? proverbialwisdom May 2015 #19
Let me make this very clear. longship May 2015 #20
Are you sure? A new case is diagnosed every 11 minutes in the US; 130 children are diagnosed per day proverbialwisdom May 2015 #21
No connection to autism. None whatsoever. longship May 2015 #22
That's misleading and reads like an advertisement for the industry and the status quo. Reply >6/2. proverbialwisdom May 2015 #25
The authors/scientists you are quoting say nothing about vaccines CreekDog May 2015 #34
Of course, they don't, and I didn't imply that they did. proverbialwisdom May 2015 #38
so is every upward trend in the world caused by vaccines? CreekDog May 2015 #40
Cheese causes suicide. NuclearDem May 2015 #42
And this study brackets the period when thimerosal was removed from childhood vaccines. longship May 2015 #36
No, misleading info. Please see post #18. (nt) proverbialwisdom May 2015 #39
none of the articles you link to say that vaccines are a cause of autism CreekDog May 2015 #41
RFJ Jr is the David Irving of vaccines and autism. nt geek tragedy May 2015 #9
Transcript from YouTube comment, incidentally. (nt) proverbialwisdom May 2015 #14
Good. The anti-science nutjobs who endanger everyone else's children can go straight to hell. geek tragedy May 2015 #7
Such exemption should have been designated not 'philosophical', but 'precautionary'. Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #10
Good point, since vaccines are also precautionary. bananas May 2015 #11
Absolutely. A very good point. Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #12
Right, "philosophical" is wrong. Fournier May 2015 #15
'arty farty' is a demotic expression I expect you recoil from, as it's a bit vulgar. Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #43
I take your point. Fournier May 2015 #48
Yes. Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #49
Is a philosophical vaccine painful? brooklynite May 2015 #28
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #32
So you fully support vaccinations that don't include thimerosal? CreekDog May 2015 #35
I strongly support informed consent and parental choice. Don't you? (nt) proverbialwisdom May 2015 #37
I expect they inject a frontal lobe. Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #44
Good. The dumbass anti-vaxxers can go home and cry. NuclearDem May 2015 #30
So that's here your brain is! In your ass. Well, who'da thunk. Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #45
Sorry, let me weep for the selfish morons who aren't allowed to endanger their communities anymore. NuclearDem May 2015 #46
Very cryptic, but I expect it's very amusing. Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #47
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