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Peace Patriot

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127. At first glance, I thought this was an "Onion" article.
Fri May 4, 2012, 02:59 PM
May 2012

Lol! (I really did.)

But then I remembered my own comments here at DU about the RIGHTWING presidents in Latin America who are the ones publicly, visibly pushing for drug legalization. I was, at first, agog about that, too.

That's right, folks! Not the corporate-demonized "Hugo" and his ilk but the corporate (and CIA) vetted and approved Manual Santos, president of Colombia, and the few other rightwing leaders in LatAm, have been touting drug legalization. The only friends of the U.S.--and of the Obama administration--in LatAm are either rightwing or far rightwing, alas--and they are leading the charge on legalization.

It started with right/centrists--former presidents of Mexico--a commission of which said (about a year ago), 'legalize marijuana' and re-think the entire "war on drugs." Then Santos, recently. My jaw dropped on that one--there is nobody on earth who has more profited from the U.S. "war on drugs" than the right and the far right in Colombia! (SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS of U.S. taxpayer money and counting!). Then the rightwing president of Guatemala joined Santos in calling for total legalization of all drugs.

So, what's with this?

And, to bring us to the present moment, and Nancy Pelosi, what can have prompted Pelosi to risk being crucified by war profiteer/police state interests, not to mention the Obama White House? Surely not the wishes of her constituents! (I mean, the voters.)

Is it the same thing that prompted Santos and other rightists in LatAm to risk not getting invited to Secret Service parties?...um...oh forget it, you know what I mean.

WHAT IS BEHIND THIS? I.e., what is behind friends of the Obama administration running this one up the flagpole?

A couple of relevant facts and educated guesses:

1. The Bush Junta was using the U.S. "war on drugs" to consolidate the cocaine trade into fewer hands and better direct its trillion dollar revenue stream to certain beneficiaries (the Bush Cartel, the CIA, U.S./transglobal banksters, etc.) (They flipped the "war on drugs" over into its opposite purpose--a "war" FOR "drugs.&quot

2. Part of that Bushwhack effort was to brutally displace FIVE MILLION peasant farmers from their lands in Colombia--THE worst human displacement crisis on earth--to make way, first of all, for the big illicit drug lords (including the 'mafia' boss they had running Colombia, Alvaro Uribe), and also for transglobal corporate interests (Exxon Mobil, Chevron, Occidental Petroleum, Drummond Coal, Monsanto, Chiquita, et al). (Note: They also saw to the murder of thousands of trade unionists, teachers, community activists, political leftists and other advocates of the poor, to prep for U.S. "free trade for the rich," which Obama has carried through to completion--the U.S./Colombia 'free trade for the rich" agreement signed, sealed and delivered.)

3. Presidents of U.S. client states, such as Colombia, DON'T TAKE "HOT" POLITICAL POSITIONS (like legalizing drugs) without at least a behind-the-scenes okay from the White House.

4. The White House--whether it's held by a Democrat or a Puke (or a Puke junta)--serves transglobal corporations. Which transglobal corporate interest would benefit the most from legalization? Big Pharma.

My best guess is that Big Pharma had done all its R&D and is ready to take over the market for herbal, recreational and addictive drugs, through legalization. Obama can't yet openly support legalization but has agreed to others getting the ball rolling, from outside the country (LatAm's rightwing leaders) and now from within.

Another best guess: The Fed raids on medical marijuana clinics have the same purpose as the massive displacement of the peasant farmers in Colombia. Many of those peasant farmers grew a few coca plants along with food for their families and communities. Some of those coca leaves were sold to cocaine manufacturers, to eke out poverty incomes; others were for local use (coca leaves are an Indigenous medicine). The Bushwhacks turned the "war on drugs" to the purpose of eliminating these millions of small players to make way for the big players. The medical marijuana clinics are the small players, here. They have to be driven out of business, as a preliminary to Big Pharma taking over the market.

We need to put aside "opinion manipulation"--whether by Democrats or Pukes--to understand what is really going on in the world. Opinion manipulation by Democratic Party leaders and some Democratic Party activists (note: I am a lifelong Democrat and activist) often says or implies that any realistic discussion of, say, who Obama is serving, is somehow disloyal and anti-Democratic and will lose him the election.

Well, I intend to vote for Obama, in an ES&S/Diebold controlled election system that I am sure has rigged elections, even though I disagree with his positions and actions on almost every front, because, a) I don't intend EVER to give up my right to vote--never, ever, EVER, no matter how rigged it is, and b) I'm glad the Bush Junta is out, for whatever reasons they are out (for now)--a few thousand civilians drone-bombed around the world is "better" than hundreds of thousands of innocent people slaughtered for their oil and thousands tortured, with the rule of law gone kaplooey; and, little helps to the poor, here, like extending unemployment, are better than nothing (for those historically-minded, Hoover was better than Coolidge...um, literally, eating is better than starving, no matter what else is happening).

So, believe me, I am not "anti-Obama." (Some of the comments above imply that anyone who criticizes Obama is "anti-Obama" and will be responsible for a Bush Junta comeback.) But I AM a realist. And I have been following developments in LatAm very closely.

This push for legalization coming from the RIGHT in LatAm is totally puzzling, on a superficial political and foreign relations level. Something's up--and I think that this is what it is: Big Pharma is making its move.

This explains both Obama/Holder's actions--driving the small, local, marijuana businesses out, with Fed raids, imprisonment and confiscation--and political "friends" of Obama (rightwing presidents in LatAm and Pelosi) REMARKABLY coming out for legalization. (The rightwing LatAm leaders are saying legalize all drugs; Pelosi, only marijuana, as I understand it, or only medical marijuana--but the legalization move in LatAm also started with marijuana--from the right/center Mexican leaders.)

The LEFT in LatAm (by far the majority) has not said much about it, but, in some ways, has spoken with its actions. Venezuela and Bolivia, for instance, threw the DEA out of their countries. Ecuador evicted the U.S. military base (that had been "justified" as a drug surveillance base). All countries with leftist leaders are opposed to the U.S. military presence in LatAm, which has crept in under the guise of the "war on drugs." They know that its ultimate purpose--as amply demonstrated in Colombia--is to kill peasants and leftists, and to throw civil life into bloody chaos (as in Mexico) as tactics of conquest.

Bolivia legalized the coca leaf (the Indigenous medicine, not cocaine.) But the Left has not been a big promoter of legalization, in general--probably because they have huge, rightwing (fascist) drug gangs to deal with, and probably also because the State Department makes a big propaganda point against leftist governments of their "non-cooperation" in the U.S. "war on drugs" (i.e., non-cooperation in U.S. destruction of their societies). The Left has no chance to counter this propaganda in the Corporate Press (which is as bad in LatAm as it is here). So they have not--visibly, publicly--said that the "war on drugs" is a bunch of shit. The RIGHT can say this (for their own reasons). The Left dare not. There may be consensus, at this point, among all LatAm leaders--but it is the RIGHT that is leading the charge on legalization.

What about the War Profiteers (whom Obama also serves)? That is a difficult question, if my thesis is correct, that Big Pharma is behind the push for legalization.

The "war on drugs" has been the War Profiteers' backup boondoggle--in addition to outright war--and it also greatly profits the "prison-industrial complex" and all sorts of military/police state entities here and elsewhere. I don't have a good guess about this, but I'm thinking that the U.S. and state/local governments were looted and bankrupted by the Bushwhacks, and that Obama could wipe out the federal deficit and put state/local governments back in business by ONE policy: legalization.

There may be a "war" going on between Big Pharma (and associated corporate interests) and the War Profiteers (and associated corporate interests), but these interests are also part of a continuum--for instance, in the case of driving millions of peasants off the land in Colombia. In other words, the War Profiteers know their role--they pave the way for other transglobal business interests--and maybe they have enough to do now, trying to consolidate and extend the oil corps' interest in the Middle East (and the pipeline in Afghanistan). Also, a bankrupt U.S. is less of a milk-cow for war. Think how great it will be for the War Profiteers to see the infusion of major bucks into U.S. government coffers from legalization, both from taxation and from down-sizing of the "prison-industrial complex" and associated interests. Is this (the push for legalization) part of a "war" between competing transglobal corporate interests, or is it part of the "war" continuum?

As I said, I don't have a settled opinion about this yet but the rightwing promotion of legalization in LatAm (and now Pelosi) makes it quite clear, it seems to me, that there IS a big corporate interest involved, on the side of legalization--Big Pharma and associated corporations (like Monsanto) being the obvious candidate. Bear in mind that the rightwing, most especially in Colombia, has hugely profited from "war on drugs" dollars. Why would they give that up? Answer: because the "war on drugs" mission has been "accomplished" and now they are ready to move on to the "laundering" of their biggest economic sector: illicit drugs.

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Seriously, wtf is his problem when it comes to marijuana?! polichick May 2012 #1
He may have gotten high Lawlbringer May 2012 #3
Hypothesis: There is a tactic amongst attornies in which they increase the pressure, patrice May 2012 #13
Thanks for this post. redqueen May 2012 #35
I loved my Libertarian corporate attorney & learned a lot from him, before he passed on. patrice May 2012 #37
How would you apply this to mmj? RainDog May 2012 #87
It's a simple problem. Igel May 2012 #71
Presidents can use the bully pulpit to change outdated laws... polichick May 2012 #75
President could change the substance scheduling of MJ unilaterally. Today. librechik May 2012 #112
I guess he's putting some special interest ahead of justice and sanity... polichick May 2012 #114
indeed it is. n/t librechik May 2012 #141
fed vs state law tru May 2012 #134
Fundamentalist isn't a term usually applied to his faith and normally has a RW connotation. 24601 May 2012 #158
One of the most powerful of the President's powers is the power to not enthusiastically enforce laws rhett o rick May 2012 #136
He must pander to the right. obxhead May 2012 #94
I seriously doubt there will be any "Left Turn" NorthCarolina May 2012 #98
ONly if congress is still packed with republicans nt abelenkpe May 2012 #109
Corporate Dems are hardly much better than Republicans though, NorthCarolina May 2012 #143
Big Pharma wants to market MJ in a pill form. lib2DaBone May 2012 #153
I think you're right - especially big pharma... polichick May 2012 #154
You're 30 years late. boppers May 2012 #156
It continues to baffle me as well... truebrit71 May 2012 #2
Bingo he is more interested in pleasing the Radical right than the LIBERAL left Vincardog May 2012 #7
I don't think it's so much that PBO is interested in pleasing the righties. Jamaal510 May 2012 #12
I for one am tired of playing defense, it is time to stand up and be counted. Vincardog May 2012 #14
So your argument is that he should act like a Republican so they don't have a card to play? Dawgs May 2012 #95
Certainly not. Jamaal510 May 2012 #113
Out of the few thousand reasons he could have for doing what he does, that is ONLY one. patrice May 2012 #15
A reasonable person would note a pattern of his giving more to the right than they asked for and Vincardog May 2012 #24
Yes, a reasonable person would & they would also note how quickly and utterly what calls itself patrice May 2012 #29
I think that "the Left" was left out because PBO wants to go right. Believe what you want to. Vincardog May 2012 #32
And you BELIEVE what you WANT to too. patrice May 2012 #40
patrice tru May 2012 #135
More "interested in pleasing", or simply NorthCarolina May 2012 #99
BTW, why should he do anything for a Left that continues to hate him? Hmmmmmm? nt patrice May 2012 #17
Especially since it is possible that some of that Left is in bed with the Right to take him down. patrice May 2012 #19
How about this: kurtzapril4 May 2012 #33
Very sorry about your nephew. We have had quite a bit of stuff like that in my family. And I worked patrice May 2012 #47
You're making really lame excuses for Obama's crappy, failing neoliberal policies. girl gone mad May 2012 #129
are you fucking shitting me?! frylock May 2012 #38
uh . . . sissy don't play that game. patrice May 2012 #45
keep fucking that chicken frylock May 2012 #46
don't do it for the Left Enrique May 2012 #62
That's crazy talk - the left "hates" him because they'd like him... polichick May 2012 #67
How does this decision play out on the Mexican border? may3rd May 2012 #96
Wait, where's the "President-Obama-Supports-MMJ" chorus? markpkessinger May 2012 #4
Look at DODT & DOMA. He's NOT supposed to endorse MMJ. You are supposed to BRING IT. patrice May 2012 #31
your paranoia regarding the left trying to destroy obama is unsettling frylock May 2012 #39
There's a great deal at stake that a lot of people appear to dangerously oversimplify. patrice May 2012 #43
the naivete is believing that romney stands a chance in hell in beating obama frylock May 2012 #53
Oh yes! Proletariatprincess May 2012 #65
i sincerely believe that exact scenario will play out.. frylock May 2012 #73
We did f___king bring it. For at least a decade. truedelphi May 2012 #48
Thanks for this info! - and - of course the context changes over time. There appears to be patrice May 2012 #51
GREAT POST n/t RainDog May 2012 #88
Oh, I see ... markpkessinger May 2012 #50
Nope. It takes two to tangle. It's the Left's fault for expecting him to do it FOR NOTHING or else. patrice May 2012 #54
And it's his fault for not being in a position where he can just write those votes off, however he patrice May 2012 #58
It's the left's fault, that makes no sense, you say he refuses to do it for nothing? how much is Dragonfli May 2012 #126
why are you hitting yourself? frylock May 2012 #57
The left is "running" because he's showing up with armed federal agents DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #55
Aside from the fact that the particular decisions are not his, but DOJ's, please see my post patrice May 2012 #60
See post #63 to see how far you have fallen down the consetvative path, while supporting GOP views Dragonfli May 2012 #64
disagree, DOJ is exec. branch under O & if he didn't agree with what Holder's doing wordpix May 2012 #81
Hello. The boss of the DoJ is Attorney General Holder fuddyduddy May 2012 #116
The poster will have to plea the fifth, Conservative views must pretend to be "centrist" or we will Dragonfli May 2012 #63
If stoners/progressives are too lazy to make him keep his promise, that is their fault. Dr Fate May 2012 #139
They're hanging out with the kurtzapril4 May 2012 #36
Is weed on the table now, Nancy Pelosi? DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #5
+ me too. But I remember how she feels about really and truly keeping truedelphi May 2012 #49
So introduce a friggin bill to reschedule marijuana. anti-alec May 2012 #6
Activists are people who have tried things like that for decades. truedelphi May 2012 #52
H.B. 2306 was introduced in June 2011 RainDog May 2012 #92
Obama HAS to order Holder to focus on busting the pot heads until we write more letters. Dr Fate May 2012 #121
Contacting John Conyers would be a really useful thing to do RainDog May 2012 #125
Obama is forced to order Holder to focus on busting pot heads unless I do (or do not) write letters. Dr Fate May 2012 #128
Got it! first thing's first, since Obama is forced to force Holder to bust clinics, who is his boss? Dragonfli May 2012 #133
If stoners/progressives are too lazy to make him keep his promise, that is their fault. Dr Fate May 2012 #138
Not exactly what I said... RainDog May 2012 #145
Thank you! treestar May 2012 #103
No no no no no no no no no no no! Pelosi just needs to SAY things about this, not do things. Dr Fate May 2012 #119
It's pretty easy to guess why he's doing it. truthisfreedom May 2012 #8
RTFO, Nancy, push marijuana legalization Dont call me Shirley May 2012 #9
you can tell its an election year......... n/t IamK May 2012 #10
+1 Blue_Tires May 2012 #61
He was doing this BEFORE an election year! n/t rayofreason May 2012 #100
a case of "do as I say, not as I did" with Obama. provis99 May 2012 #11
Thank You, Nancy!!! We love you and will never forget your support! nt patrice May 2012 #16
I have no problem with ppl using marijuana for medical purposes. However, Galraedia May 2012 #18
I have no problem with minding their own business and not dwelling on what I do in the privacy Purveyor May 2012 #20
I don't smoke pot, nor do I have any of the conditions mentioned... markpkessinger May 2012 #21
Is it okay to get drunk? Why is alcohol legal and canabis not? - and - WHY THE FUCK IS HEMP patrice May 2012 #22
And, if true, so? obamanut2012 May 2012 #25
My medical issues aren't your concern when I exercise my right to kestrel91316 May 2012 #26
So what? Chemisse May 2012 #30
Most ppl want it placed on the same shelf as alcohol may3rd May 2012 #34
how is that any of your damn business? frylock May 2012 #41
Right. Let's imprison those fuckers! DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #56
O_o ...? Galraedia May 2012 #70
As a matter of fact, yes, I am high right now DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #72
Riiight. Galraedia May 2012 #74
Riiiiigh? No, really, I'm high right now. DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #76
I wasn't disputing that. I really do think your high. Galraedia May 2012 #77
Take it from a stoner: you meant "you're", not "your", and "whom", not who DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #78
The lunatic is on the grass, Dragonfli May 2012 #123
but, you know, that doesn't really matter RainDog May 2012 #86
True. If they want it legal, they will have to get society, via Congress and the states treestar May 2012 #104
are you trying to support Obama by attacking imaginary stoners? RainDog May 2012 #110
Yup- the lazy stoners should admit they smoked it just for fun- Like Obama and Al Gore did. Dr Fate May 2012 #131
Your attitude is ignorant RainDog May 2012 #146
and that's bad, why? mike_c May 2012 #115
Heaven forbid that someone uses marijuana to get stoned legally. The horrors. rhett o rick May 2012 #137
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2012 #23
Seriously!! SCOTUS, Jimmy Kimmel, Time Magazine & now Pelosi. 99th_Monkey May 2012 #27
i'm sure her staffers hear it all day every day from pissed off constituents.. frylock May 2012 #28
honesty is not a value in US politics fascisthunter May 2012 #42
drugs used to be legal back before prohibition. once they decided teewrex May 2012 #44
Top 5 special interest groups that lobby to keep marijuana illegal: felix_numinous May 2012 #59
I am only surprised that big pharma isn't among them as we have an administration that Dragonfli May 2012 #66
I've always thought they were part of it too. polichick May 2012 #68
Big pharma is number 4 felix_numinous May 2012 #85
The article lists felix_numinous May 2012 #120
Sorry, I replied as I was out the door and didn't follow the link until I got back. Dragonfli May 2012 #124
Hey--you're so right felix_numinous May 2012 #140
Thank you Nancy! Proletariatprincess May 2012 #69
instead of regulating fracking, nukes, et. al, O's raiding med mj sites wordpix May 2012 #79
same here CountAllVotes May 2012 #107
K&R (n/t) a2liberal May 2012 #80
The Obama MJ problem keeps growing and growing . . . . . FlaGatorJD May 2012 #82
Check out this DU thread about what's happening to good people because of this. Comrade Grumpy May 2012 #83
k&r THANK YOU, NANCY PELOSI!!! n/t RainDog May 2012 #84
Seconded, of Uncle Joe May 2012 #89
Oh, this needs a K&R! Trillo May 2012 #90
I'm so sick of this crap. Legalize it already! SunSeeker May 2012 #91
At least the Colorado Democratic Party endorsed legalization. joshcryer May 2012 #93
How is the rocky mountain high state going to dispense it? may3rd May 2012 #97
Our marijuana grown in Colorado is appropriately taxed by the state. fuddyduddy May 2012 #117
Then again, perhaps Obama is concerned about jobs being taken away from street dealers... Dr Fate May 2012 #132
More African Americans are in jail now than were enslaved RainDog May 2012 #149
Hows the BBQ sauce these days ? may3rd May 2012 #105
MONSANTO is eagerly awaiting legalization, so they can do to cannabis what they've done to corn, yodermon May 2012 #101
I agree with Ms. Pelosi except for this statement - TBF May 2012 #102
I agree - it should be legalized on a national level and the prez has chosen... polichick May 2012 #152
This post kind of reminds me of this... FightForChange May 2012 #106
Thank you Nancy Pelosi! abelenkpe May 2012 #108
thanks again Nancy! librechik May 2012 #111
Is she planning on introducing any legislation that would directly counter Obama's raids? Dr Fate May 2012 #118
President Obama could decapitate Betty White during a Presidential debate and still win CA Freddie Stubbs May 2012 #122
So having Holder focus on busting medical clinics is Obama's idea then. And a damn good one too. Dr Fate May 2012 #130
It may not be Obama's idea, but he certainly isn't stopping it Freddie Stubbs May 2012 #150
At first glance, I thought this was an "Onion" article. Peace Patriot May 2012 #127
The War on Drugs was a Republican Idea RainDog May 2012 #148
Kick Warren DeMontague May 2012 #142
Wow, President Obama must be a busy guy raiding all those places by himself. nt/ progressivebydesign May 2012 #144
I agree with Nancy, but it's another "state" situation where the state votes one way and the feds IndyJones May 2012 #147
Thanks kpete for the thread...Thanks Nancy for your "rebuke" of POTUS red dog 1 May 2012 #151
Kick! sarcasmo May 2012 #155
"whose actions complied with state laws".... boppers May 2012 #157
Good for Pelosi. musical_soul May 2012 #159
hopefully, this will be his next come to jesus moment yurbud May 2012 #160
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