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6. But...But...But...

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:01 PM

Jul 2015

Brainwashing! And stuff!

I watched the previous topic on this, pretty surprising to see the number of people attacking the mother saying that she turned the children against the father and that the childrens claims of the father hitting the mother were false.

Apparently there has never, EVER, been a case of a man abusing a woman.

As for the claims themselves, we don't know if they are true or not. The claims SHOULD be investigated, but to immediately say that the mother brainwashed the kids to make them claim such is extremely misogynistic.

Given the hostility between both parents in this case, it would probably be beneficial for the children to be put into the care of other family members until the cases completion but sending them to JAIL is in all honestly the idea of a lunatic.

At any rate, this Judge needs to be investigated for sentencing children to J-hall because they don't want to be around a potentially abusive parent. Given a past case of the PIC giving judges kickbacks for sentencing children to Jhall on bogus and trumped up 'crimes' it's extremely worrying to see this Judge trying to push these kids into Jhall.

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Judge to release 'jailed' kids, send them to summer camp [View all] brooklynite Jul 2015 OP

Those kids are going to hate their parents for putting them through such trauma. Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #1

the hate their father now elehhhhna Jul 2015 #2

The judge made a statement about "parental alienation" tclambert Jul 2015 #3

My father put us kids through a horrible dragged on and on divorce from our mother. Then he Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #8

she was angry with the.kids. she did put them in Juvie for punishment Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #9

The article states that the judge murielm99 Jul 2015 #11

Sorry. Maybe that would be true of the nine and ten year old kids, but not 1monster Jul 2015 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author murielm99 Jul 2015 #75

Brainwashing isn't a thing LeftyMom Jul 2015 #42

And why do you trust a judge who pubished the children for what she said were the mom's actions? CreekDog Jul 2015 #60

The judge and the father's attorney also had worked together at one point Warpy Jul 2015 #79

I self-deleted what I wrote in response. murielm99 Jul 2015 #83

Yeah, this mess is above our pay grade Warpy Jul 2015 #87

Regardless of what she insists, she did punish the children Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #32

Why are you giving the judge any benefit of the doubt? CreekDog Jul 2015 #57

So - the ages of these children are between 10 and 14 asiliveandbreathe Jul 2015 #4

Because the father hit their mother. Laser102 Jul 2015 #5

But...But...But... Lancero Jul 2015 #6

if the father truly wanted the best for his kids he would have stepped up and said don't send roguevalley Jul 2015 #91

I wonder what the mom did to piss off the judge that much. NobodyHere Jul 2015 #7

Well hell Lisa romanic Jul 2015 #10

In most places you can not force a 14 yo to visit a parent. This judge is loopy. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #12

The kids have not been in jail or lock up azurnoir Jul 2015 #13

Judge called it "jail" during the hearing, when she send kids there. LisaL Jul 2015 #14

And that also says they weren't allowed to see each other either muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #15

and if you read that you also read why, Lansat is the court appointed gaurdian azurnoir Jul 2015 #16

Yeah, Lansat is totally unsuitable as a guardian, isn't he? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #18

except if you actually read the article you know Lansat wasn't the only one saying that n/t azurnoir Jul 2015 #24

Well, the judge is an idiot who detained innocent children muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #34

They already are in therapy, and have been for some time azurnoir Jul 2015 #17

He seems fairly unconcerned about his children muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #19

I really do not know where you get that from-the Father who has remarried and had another child azurnoir Jul 2015 #22

He still spends a lot of time in Israel because of his job. LisaL Jul 2015 #25

If you've read the articles it says that the Father has agreed to relinquish his passport azurnoir Jul 2015 #27

I don't see the father objecting to his children being split up and detained muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #35

And judge ordered that if father shows up and tells the judge that LisaL Jul 2015 #47

Yes. My husband has a daughter whose mother made sure that he was unable to 1monster Jul 2015 #45

So the father agreed to a job in Israel, when his wife didn't want to move there. LisaL Jul 2015 #20

It is their ountry of origin and one they are both citizens of, also the Mother took the childen azurnoir Jul 2015 #21

Their country of origin? LisaL Jul 2015 #23

where did you get that info? it was not in any of the articles I've read so link please azurnoir Jul 2015 #26

You can look up on line where she recieved an education. LisaL Jul 2015 #28

No link? okay azurnoir Jul 2015 #29

Here. LisaL Jul 2015 #30

she actually completed school in Israel the rest is her employment history azurnoir Jul 2015 #36

And? She was already in US when her children were born. LisaL Jul 2015 #43

The children are also Israeli citizens azurnoir Jul 2015 #74

"...it was the Mother who has been feeding this story to the media..." ??? IllinoisBirdWatcher Jul 2015 #31

If you know the firm representing the father who lives part time in the US and part time in Israel azurnoir Jul 2015 #37

Yes, that is the quote I was referencing. IllinoisBirdWatcher Jul 2015 #40

apparently you missed this azurnoir Jul 2015 #50

Yes, that is the excerpt I was quoting. IllinoisBirdWatcher Jul 2015 #93

It's still a state-run, institutional facility that the judge called a jail. Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #33

the judge IMO is protecting the children from an obviously disturbed narcissistic mother azurnoir Jul 2015 #38

If that were the case, the judge could simply jail her. Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #39

Mother wasn't telling children not to go have lunch with father. LisaL Jul 2015 #44

So, the father's statement is the be all and the end all? We haven't heard from the mother 1monster Jul 2015 #49

I think we've been 'hearing' from Mom all along, she was the one that brought in the media azurnoir Jul 2015 #51

We have? Let's see the links quoting Mom... All I've seen is from the 1monster Jul 2015 #53

Did you read my previous post it was stated Mom went the media azurnoir Jul 2015 #56

Yeah! The FATHER said the mother went to the media. I want that independently 1monster Jul 2015 #59

the only article that even comes close to vilifying the mother is my link the Detroit Free Press azurnoir Jul 2015 #63

It's Mom who wants them set free; that's one thing definitely in her favour muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #64

and this is the woman you seem to defnd azurnoir Jul 2015 #66

Yeah; she cares about her children more than their father does muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #69

what? what was described in that snip sounded nearly psychotic IMO lets review it again okay azurnoir Jul 2015 #72

He doesn't specify how he tried to prevent her leaving. He doesn't specify what the children did muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #77

the very fact that the mother was "circcling the park" in her car smacks of being unbalanced IMO azurnoir Jul 2015 #78

It 'smacks' of her not liking or trusting him. muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #80

where is it stated the Father thinks it is a good idea? azurnoir Jul 2015 #81

"Mr. Tsimhoni has great respect for the court and the legal system" muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #86

Did you leave something perhaps? could possibly maybe might be azurnoir Jul 2015 #88

The sentence you embolden follows OTT criticism of his ex-wife muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #90

he said all that had transpired, not just the wifes actions azurnoir Jul 2015 #92

You only got his side of the story. LisaL Jul 2015 #82

why do leave out the part about the police not believing them? azurnoir Jul 2015 #84

A guy recently jumped off the bridge with his son. LisaL Jul 2015 #85

and noone has jumped off any bridges here have they? azurnoir Jul 2015 #89

Dorms aren't "home-like" unless you're a Duggar. LeftyMom Jul 2015 #46

so they should just be left with Mom right? I mean that has out so very very well azurnoir Jul 2015 #48

Best practice is home, extended family, non-relatives, foster placement and institutions. LeftyMom Jul 2015 #52

The children seem to be doing very well, unless they are forced to see their father. LisaL Jul 2015 #54

so you'd have them let with this women because they do so well azurnoir Jul 2015 #61

That's his side of the story. LisaL Jul 2015 #67

and he's lieing in your mind? azurnoir Jul 2015 #70

Well, he's lying in the children's minds muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #71

you mean the kids? okay then azurnoir Jul 2015 #73

That's just the father's statement to the press; it's not evidence that they shouldn't be with her muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #68

Why the hell are you defending this? CreekDog Jul 2015 #55

I provided links as to what the facility really was and it's not jail azurnoir Jul 2015 #58

Then why did this judge forbid the siblings from seeing each other ? CreekDog Jul 2015 #62

Is that a threat? I already posted why the judge forbade the children from seeing each other azurnoir Jul 2015 #65

Here Lansat is the court appointed guardian and if you click the link it's not just Lansat azurnoir Jul 2015 #76