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78. It took some years to see just what an immense amount of damage

Tue Aug 11, 2015, 04:14 PM

Aug 2015

Clinton did to this country. He's not in Chimp/Cheney territory, but he's in the top ten. I honestly think he did far more ill to this country than Bush the First did in his term.

NAFTA, banking deregulation, welfare "reform." and the Telecom Act have all proved to be weapons of mass destruction turned on the people of this country.

Thanks, Clinton. Thanks a fucking bunch. But you got your massive delayed payday in the last 15 years so I guess the rest of us can just lump it. Worst Democratic president of the 20th century.

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Bill Clinton defends repeal of Glass-Steagall [View all] Freddie Stubbs Aug 2015 OP

The Big Lie. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #1

IIRC, it was what caused the Crash in '29, too.. Wounded Bear Aug 2015 #5

Thanks. I didn't know that bit about the depression. Gregorian Aug 2015 #92

The history of the American economy is CanadaexPat Aug 2015 #135

"Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." snagglepuss Aug 2015 #172

That's certainly a big part of it Warpy Aug 2015 #140

I remember reading back then how people were blown away snagglepuss Aug 2015 #173

He's not stupid Warpy Aug 2015 #174

Intelligence is not about knowing everything it's about discernment. snagglepuss Aug 2015 #179

He's not stupid- he managed ot get himself inducted into the 1% and adopted by the Bush Family Hydra Aug 2015 #176

And let's not minimize Foreclosure Phil Gramm... IthinkThereforeIAM Aug 2015 #8

Gramm is the worst....the great defender of exploited CEO's virtualobserver Aug 2015 #65

Bill Clinton is an ass hole. I lost friendships over him. What a total lying tool. roguevalley Aug 2015 #20

It took some years to see just what an immense amount of damage hifiguy Aug 2015 #78

+100%! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #99

It's no wonder Poppy Bush dgibby Aug 2015 #154

Your list omits Bill's "tough on crime" crusade to flood prisons with African Americans 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #155

Another one for the long list of Clinton-backed or -sponsored disasters. hifiguy Aug 2015 #158

MFN for China n/t reddread Aug 2015 #184

its bizarro speak restorefreedom Aug 2015 #27

Totally agree. And i wonder how much bigger that international truedelphi Aug 2015 #107

'There is not a single, solitary, example that swilton Aug 2015 #52

Once a BS artist RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #66

I did NOT have SEX with THAT woman...finger pointed for emphasis...gotta love the big dog...blech haikugal Aug 2015 #73

+100%! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #98

Depends on what the definition of "is" is. dgibby Aug 2015 #153

/\_/\_This_/\_/\ Scuba Aug 2015 #168

Bull pucky. The repeal of Glass Steagall caused the crash. Do we really need another Clinton to peacebird Aug 2015 #2

That's why she's running. hifiguy Aug 2015 #79

I've got an example. How about the financial collapse of 2008. Dawgs Aug 2015 #3

Bill has much to defend about his administration Jack Rabbit Aug 2015 #4

Once people become "haves" - especially excess "haves" - they conveniently ignore the "have nots" NRaleighLiberal Aug 2015 #6

I should alert on you snagglepuss Aug 2015 #116

. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2015 #124

Yep! dgibby Aug 2015 #156

I never understood the animosity of Conservatives toward Bill Clinton. Maedhros Aug 2015 #7

The first black president, too. closeupready Aug 2015 #31

Sorry, but I think Eisenhower was the best Republican president since TR. hedda_foil Aug 2015 #32

But was Eisenhower able to sneak as much heinous legislation past an adoring, unsuspecting Maedhros Aug 2015 #40

Doubt he would have tried. Ike built the interstate Highway system. hifiguy Aug 2015 #84

Eisenhower ' s son endorsed Kerry in 2004 karynnj Aug 2015 #87

Some, like Thom Hartmann, think Eisenhower was more liberal whathehell Aug 2015 #102

Eisenhower's Farewell hifiguy Aug 2015 #127

I don't know...Carter didn't get us into any wars, even if whathehell Aug 2015 #130

And the GOP would run him out of the party today. n/t dgibby Aug 2015 #157

At the point of a shotgun, hifiguy Aug 2015 #159

Eisenhower may have warned about the MIC, but... RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #165

And he initiated the embargo/covert war against Cuba. Daniel537 Aug 2015 #170

All true. hedda_foil Aug 2015 #183

And he can say that if he has never bothered to pick up a single AllyCat Aug 2015 #9

not TECHNICALLY lying is what he does best. Vincardog Aug 2015 #10

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #19

Now if only his "co-president" would speak up. RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #11

poor Bill is going senile Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #12

An honorary member of the Bush Crime Family. hifiguy Aug 2015 #85

sorry Robbins Aug 2015 #13

Blind denial Kelvin Mace Aug 2015 #14

Well, Bill Clinton is not a stupid man Jack Rabbit Aug 2015 #16

Deregulating the Telecommincations Industry was Worse! Chasstev365 Aug 2015 #15

Don't forget NAFTA and Welfare Reform (sic) RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #18

Amazing how the Hit List, Damage and Mea Culpas are growing! appalachiablue Aug 2015 #34

Don't leave out DOMA! [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2015 #41

Oops! RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #49

Bill made permanent China's Most Favored Nation trading status. closeupready Aug 2015 #48

Yeah, but think how much worse it would've been... RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #50

I don't wanna Plucketeer Aug 2015 #58

Damn, they even sorta look alike... Hydra Aug 2015 #177

The Crime Bill was on the Clinton 'Hit Parade' too. Tommymac Aug 2015 #54

In fairness to Bill, maybe they showed him "the movie" RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #61

LOL In all seriousness, that is why it is so important to elect someone who can't be leveraged Tommymac Aug 2015 #167

Repealing Glass-Steagall was a mistake. Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2015 #17

Jim Leach, who later endorsed Obama progressoid Aug 2015 #23

I remember raising an eyebrow when Obama named Leach as an economic emissary RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #45

Funny how well these stupid memes are employed. truedelphi Aug 2015 #109

It's really rather creepy RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #123

They've spent billions learning what makes people tick Hydra Aug 2015 #178

You asked a sensible, logical question. That was your fatal mistake. RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #180

The koolaid was strong back then Hydra Aug 2015 #182

Shucks, that all worked out just fine. progressoid Aug 2015 #138

As the tobacco lobbyists liked to say, "Doubt is our product" RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #145

And let us not forget the role of the Commodities Futures Modernization Act... hedda_foil Aug 2015 #37

Nice to hear accounts of people with that level of integrity and intelligence. snagglepuss Aug 2015 #175

Is Clinton huffing paint? blackspade Aug 2015 #21

Nope, he's smelling all that sweet, sweet money hifiguy Aug 2015 #160

You know.. this is the epitome of how the history of re-writing history... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #181

Oh, Bill, Bill, Bill... Peace Patriot Aug 2015 #22

"There's not a single, solitary example that it had anything to do with the financial crash.� HUH?! catbyte Aug 2015 #24

What a thread! candelista Aug 2015 #25

right in front of our eyes.... restorefreedom Aug 2015 #28

We always had the potential. ozone_man Aug 2015 #169

well at least we know where hillary will be on it restorefreedom Aug 2015 #26

very good point. magical thyme Aug 2015 #55

then again, we know he is ego driven restorefreedom Aug 2015 #105

another good point. but I think it's early yet magical thyme Aug 2015 #110

yes i do think you.re correct restorefreedom Aug 2015 #136

A ten or twenty year vacation on Mars would be good for both Clintons. hifiguy Aug 2015 #86

mars is too close restorefreedom Aug 2015 #104

not so clear karynnj Aug 2015 #97

if there is any doubt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #101

agreed, but it can be more complex karynnj Aug 2015 #106

I Call bull shit- ruffburr Aug 2015 #29

"Politicians � particularly now, in the aftermath of this crash � fear n8dogg83 Aug 2015 #30

The problem is he thinks of economic success from the point of view of Wall Street. He has jwirr Aug 2015 #119

I guess it depends on what your definition of "single, solitary example" is. historylovr Aug 2015 #33

HRC getting pushed hard to take position; lets Bill out in public Divernan Aug 2015 #35

He has not slipped his leash passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #53

He's not apologizing for G/S; he's defending it. Divernan Aug 2015 #60

I know, but he's apologized for things that Hillary claims to support now passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #62

It's not in his nature to apologize for anything Divernan Aug 2015 #68

Any "Democrat" who uses the "Whitewater 'scandal'" against the Clintons ericson00 Aug 2015 #71

Not Whitewater itself, but stalling on getting everything out karynnj Aug 2015 #115

Here you go passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #75

Good example. She's still taking money from private prison interests, though Divernan Aug 2015 #80

I trust her campaign promises as far as I can throw them passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #83

Only as long as those issues don't impact on corporations' bottom lines. Divernan Aug 2015 #91

Walkoff grand slam home run. hifiguy Aug 2015 #108

Yep, and anyone who is taking money from those scumbags has hifiguy Aug 2015 #89

Well what can anyone expect from someone who started out as the private attorney to truedelphi Aug 2015 #120

Truth. nt hifiguy Aug 2015 #129

yeah and its a big freakin if restorefreedom Aug 2015 #100

in fairness. would any former President not try karynnj Aug 2015 #103

It's false to claim "both parties are the same", but they are far too god-damn similar! arcane1 Aug 2015 #36

I read he gets $ 500,000 per speaking engagement. Who pays for those kinds of speeches? jalan48 Aug 2015 #38

The people he served so well as POTUS hifiguy Aug 2015 #47

$1.5 million came from the United Bank of Switzerland. candelista Aug 2015 #128

I guess this dovetails with the schedule for debates Babel_17 Aug 2015 #39

He's going to be in the White House with a role in some Policy Decisions... KoKo Aug 2015 #42

Bill Clinton's Shameful Haiti Legacy KoKo Aug 2015 #51

It depends on what time of the day it is and also on what is, is Geronimoe Aug 2015 #43

Perhaps the "it" impeachment proceedings by the 'uglicans was a smokescreen erronis Aug 2015 #44

Hey, Bill hifiguy Aug 2015 #46

well it depends... magical thyme Aug 2015 #56

I bet you wished you had posted this in the Sander's Group bahrbearian Aug 2015 #57

He can't think we are dumb enough to buy that steaming pile. onecaliberal Aug 2015 #59

I see he's helping Hillary out the same way he did in 2008 Report1212 Aug 2015 #63

IMHO... There is no defense. n/t Hugin Aug 2015 #64

Great, maybe Bill and Hillary can get back in ofice and finish what they started... Cosmic Kitten Aug 2015 #67

If it CAUSEd the financial crash in 2007 is not the point. IF it had still been in place many jwirr Aug 2015 #69

Bill Clinton is brilliant. He knew the horrific consequences of the repeal emsimon33 Aug 2015 #70

Yep. 2008 was an intended feature and natural consequence, hifiguy Aug 2015 #111

Many people warned but no one listened! emsimon33 Aug 2015 #147

Pssst! Bill! STFU! gregcrawford Aug 2015 #72

Denial....not just a river in Egypt Roland99 Aug 2015 #74

Repeal of Glass-Steagall Caused the Financial Crisis The repeal of the law separating commercial and jtuck004 Aug 2015 #76

Blaming Bill for the crisis is as idiotic as blaming him for ericson00 Aug 2015 #77

That it takes a long while for the bomb to go off hifiguy Aug 2015 #113

Who are you? passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #144

article also says "Most economists at the Federal Reserve agree..." ericson00 Aug 2015 #81

Sorry, but one of Hillary Clinton's top economic advisers disagrees RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #88

he wasn't talking about the contents of the bill, but the "mentality" ericson00 Aug 2015 #90

The enaction of the bill was what allowed the mentality to run free. hifiguy Aug 2015 #114

You're grasping at straws RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #118

When it comes to economics, the only time Stiglitz isn't the smartest person in the room hifiguy Aug 2015 #131

Totally agree RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #161

Jamie Galbraith, too, hifiguy Aug 2015 #162

Haha. Agree once again! Looks like we've already got the starting rotation. RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #164

Shouldn't have gone there, Bill Demeter Aug 2015 #82

A DLC Third Way Man To The Core cantbeserious Aug 2015 #93

this is similar to many things he did in 2008 that HRC likely wished he did not karynnj Aug 2015 #94

The Clintons caused the Great Recession jfern Aug 2015 #95

"There's not a single, solitary example that it had anything to do with the financial crash." Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #96

"I didn't have relations with those investment firms!" BillZBubb Aug 2015 #112

There are more than a few who believe Clinton is right. Hoyt Aug 2015 #117

Ha ha. It is to laugh. Tim Geithner made AIG whole 100-cents on the dollar courtesy US Treasury Octafish Aug 2015 #126

Has nothing to do with Glass-Steagall, the crux of this thread. along with Obama and Clinton bashing Hoyt Aug 2015 #132

Great. I'll go with William K. Black on this one. Octafish Aug 2015 #139

Whey do you keep posting things that have nothing to do with Glass-Steagall? Hoyt Aug 2015 #143

Why do you keep repeating they have nothing to do with Glass-Steagall? Octafish Aug 2015 #148

Had nothing to do with Glass-Steagall. Apparently, you don't understand the law. Hoyt Aug 2015 #151

Actually, I do. And the whole thing has to do with Glass Steagall. Octafish Aug 2015 #163

Krugman differs Hoyt Aug 2015 #166

Here's why he's defending it... Octafish Aug 2015 #121

Trying to talk Hillary out of winning again Billy? DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #122

Amazing and amusing to watch a frenzied orgy over this OP cosmicone Aug 2015 #125

No less a genuinely liberal brainiac than Joseph Stiglitz,. hifiguy Aug 2015 #133

Go ahead -- parrot the R-W talking points cosmicone Aug 2015 #134

So Stiglitz, and Paul Krugman as well, are reichwing shills. hifiguy Aug 2015 #142

Krugman on Glass-Steagall: Hoyt Aug 2015 #146

Maybe a few quibbles, but pretty much agree. Hoyt Aug 2015 #137

Next time on "Bill Clinton defends" Truprogressive85 Aug 2015 #141

Senator Warren disagrees with all of you BlueStateLib Aug 2015 #149

Sounds lije Warren is admitting she's playing to myopic voters regarding G-S? Hoyt Aug 2015 #152

Just shut up Bill..... sendero Aug 2015 #150

Notice how much shit that needs to be fixed today had a Clinton hand in it. Daniel537 Aug 2015 #171

Multiple posts.. sendero Aug 2015 #185