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(85,373 posts)61. Explaining "democratic socialism" NPR: MARKETPLACE
by Nancy Marshall-Genzer Wednesday, November 18, 2015 - 10:09
PODCAST AT LINK AND MORE: http://www.marketplace.org/2015/11/18/elections/explaining-democratic-socialism
If you ask 10 different people what they think democratic socialism is, chances are youll get 10 different answers.
We reached out to the Sanders campaign, but didnt hear back.
So, I asked two political science professors to define democratic socialism.
Samuel Goldman, an assistant professor of political science at George Washington University, told me it was, achieving collective control of the economy.
And Andrei Markovits, a professor of political science at the University of Michigan, said democratic socialism is an attempt to create, a propertyfree, socialist society.
So everything is communally owned.
Senator Sanders has touched on democratic socialism in stump speeches, like this one in Iowa last month:
When you call your fire department or the police department, what do you think youre calling?" Sanders asked the crowd. "These are socialist institutions.
That Sanders attempt to use fire and police departments to define democratic socialism does not sit well with Professor Markovits.
If he were to write this on an exam for me? Thats an F, Markovits said.
Sanders has also cited Denmark as a place where democratic socialism has worked.
That gets a rise out of Professor Goldman. With apologies to Shakespeare, he said theres something rotten in Sanders assertions about the state of Denmark.
I would not call that socialism, he said.
Or even democratic socialism. Professor Markovits agrees. Ultimately, Markovits said, theres no private property at all under democratic socialism. He said it doesnt exist in Denmark or anywhere else, and is an unattainable goal.
PODCAST AT LINK AND MORE: http://www.marketplace.org/2015/11/18/elections/explaining-democratic-socialism
If you ask 10 different people what they think democratic socialism is, chances are youll get 10 different answers.
We reached out to the Sanders campaign, but didnt hear back.
So, I asked two political science professors to define democratic socialism.
Samuel Goldman, an assistant professor of political science at George Washington University, told me it was, achieving collective control of the economy.
And Andrei Markovits, a professor of political science at the University of Michigan, said democratic socialism is an attempt to create, a propertyfree, socialist society.
So everything is communally owned.
Senator Sanders has touched on democratic socialism in stump speeches, like this one in Iowa last month:
When you call your fire department or the police department, what do you think youre calling?" Sanders asked the crowd. "These are socialist institutions.
That Sanders attempt to use fire and police departments to define democratic socialism does not sit well with Professor Markovits.
If he were to write this on an exam for me? Thats an F, Markovits said.
Sanders has also cited Denmark as a place where democratic socialism has worked.
That gets a rise out of Professor Goldman. With apologies to Shakespeare, he said theres something rotten in Sanders assertions about the state of Denmark.
I would not call that socialism, he said.
Or even democratic socialism. Professor Markovits agrees. Ultimately, Markovits said, theres no private property at all under democratic socialism. He said it doesnt exist in Denmark or anywhere else, and is an unattainable goal.
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Bernie Sanders puts Wall Street on notice: "On day one, I am appointing a special committee to inves [View all]
bananas
Nov 2015
OP
Use their pull to make sure he isn't elected in the first place. They have their candidate.
PoliticalMalcontent
Nov 2015
#16
They've been investigated a lot under Eric Holder, he just let them all off. They did pay millions
trillion
Nov 2015
#54
Maybe Bernie hasn't heard of the Securities & Exchange Comission? it's Federal
KittyWampus
Nov 2015
#14
He should push for something like that if the Democrats take back the Senate
DavidDvorkin
Nov 2015
#15
He'll get 2 vote then no matter what. A vote for Hillary may as well be a vote for Jeb. Same thing.
trillion
Nov 2015
#56
He can say whatever he wants, because there will be no day one Sanders presidency.
Township75
Nov 2015
#19
So, are we supposed to give up on jailing Wall St. since the HRC and Obama are not interested? n/t
Hydra
Nov 2015
#24
Today on NPR's Marketplace, TWO Economics Professors Claimed that Bernie Didn't know what
Demeter
Nov 2015
#25
I'd love hillary to take this position. She'll never risk alienating corporate dollars.
Bubzer
Nov 2015
#26
Tell us that after the TPP and worse passes and they override all countries' constitutions and laws.
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Nov 2015
#58
On day two he needs to enlist "Crackers - The Corporate Crime Fighting Chicken"....
Spitfire of ATJ
Nov 2015
#66