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In reply to the discussion: Sanders: Gun control no "magic formula" for terrorism [View all]beevul
(12,194 posts)79. The ar-15 regardless of magazine is no military weapon.
The fact that the national assault weapons ban expired in 2004 and these abominations have been sold to civilians does not make them any less military weapons.
They've been sold to civilians for over 50 years. Once again you don't seem to have much of a grasp on history.
They were originally designed FOR THE MILITARY and made to inflict maximum damage on large numbers of enemy soldiers at close range. But you knew that.
Another misleading screed by you.
Reality says:
The AR-15 was first built in 1959 by ArmaLite as a small arms rifle for the United States armed forces. Because of financial problems, ArmaLite sold the design to Colt. After some modifications, the redesigned rifle was adopted as the M16 rifle. In 1963, Colt started selling the semi-automatic version of the rifle for civilians as the Colt AR-15. Although the name "AR-15" remains a Colt registered trademark, variants of the firearm are made, modified, and sold under various names by multiple manufacturers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15
No military in the world issues its troops an ar-15. Not a single one. Its a semi-automatic version of a military weapon, not a military weapon in itself. Argue all you like but that's a fact and no amount of spin doctoring or bluster is going to make it go away.
They were designed for mass killing and have no business in civilian hands.
That's your less than unbiased opinion.
ALL Democratic presidential candidates agree with this position. You are out of step with your party.
I have a greater loyalty and duty to truth, fact, and reality, than I have to any political party.
The fact that you insist these are not military weapons shows that pro-gun folks are not to be trusted.
No. The fact that you insist that they're military weapons is refuted by the fact that no military in the history of the world has or ever will issue its troops at large ar-15s.
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I think mental health INSTEAD of sensible gun regulation is a right-wing talking point, but plenty
Attorney in Texas
Dec 2015
#2
There isn't just a single cause, and mental health does play a role.
PersonNumber503602
Dec 2015
#45
The U.S. Assault Weapons Ban expired in 2004; the PLCAA was passed the next year. nt
SunSeeker
Dec 2015
#77
You are wrong. Those lawsuits were gaining taction. That is why the PLCAA was an NRA priority.
SunSeeker
Dec 2015
#22
The question is whether a manufacturer is liable for criminal use of their product
Scootaloo
Dec 2015
#25
A car manufacturer would still be liable for defects even if driven criminally.
SunSeeker
Dec 2015
#38
WTF? Neither of the NY labor law cases you cite involve statutory product liability immunity.
SunSeeker
Dec 2015
#47
No, read again. I asked for consumer product manufacturers that were bestowed the same immunity.
SunSeeker
Dec 2015
#49
I did. It does not affect nor even mention consumer product liability for any manufacturer.
SunSeeker
Dec 2015
#69
It's a shame, too, because that totally would've prevented these mass shootings.
arcane1
Dec 2015
#33
No, he's defending gun manufacturers who sell shit that should not be in the hands of civilians. nt
SunSeeker
Dec 2015
#51
If they "shouldn't be in the hands of citizens," get a law passed to that effect.
Lizzie Poppet
Dec 2015
#53
That IS a defective product: an unreasonably dangerous design and irresponsibly marketed. nt
SunSeeker
Dec 2015
#63
This is why Bernie Sanders will be the next President of the United States.
Major Hogwash
Dec 2015
#14
Sanders knows we have a long ways to go, not in his lifetime likely, before the
randys1
Dec 2015
#27