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Scootaloo

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103. They won't, and it would have no impact.

Sun May 27, 2012, 02:29 AM

May 2012

First off, nothing Trayvon was doing could have forced Zimmerman to follow him. Nothing Trayvon was doing would have forced Zimmerman to disobey the cops he had called. Nothing Trayvon was doing could have forced Zimmerman to exit his vehicle and confront Trayvon.

Period. Unless the Defense has some airtight proof of Trayvon Martin having eerie mind-control powers, it's just not going to happen. Zimmerman was looking for a fight, so he started one and shot an unarmed minor. He was not forced to do so, he chose to do so, and he did so against the advisement of the authorities.

"Out of control teenager" won't float in court any better than "gay panic" ever has; it makes lurid headlines, but what happens in the courtroom is a lot different from what happens in the newspapers.

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Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements [View all] MindMover May 2012 OP

DA needs to make sure he stays in prison for the rest of his natural life Woody Woodpecker May 2012 #1

A BLACK guy named Bubba...... kestrel91316 May 2012 #2

That would be an added bonus RZM May 2012 #32

Apparently advocating prison rape now? Kaleva May 2012 #94

Sometimes I get the feeling that we have been transported back to MindMover May 2012 #3

Please explain PSPS May 2012 #5

This article will probably start the explanation..... MindMover May 2012 #9

Not helpful at all. The word "bubba" doesn't appear anywhere in that article. PSPS May 2012 #12

They were not my words...but I will try to explain.... MindMover May 2012 #13

Can't say you were not perfectly clear now! nt Lucky Luciano May 2012 #14

So rape is now an acceptable punishment? Heddi May 2012 #18

...... MindMover May 2012 #30

Umm...how is it a strawman when it's exactly what was said? antigone382 May 2012 #48

Not what I said......Strawman is misrepresentation... MindMover May 2012 #71

But he or she didn't claim it was what you said. antigone382 May 2012 #74

The post I am referring to is post #18 which is linked to my explanation of Bubba.... MindMover May 2012 #77

I so agree with you. What is this thing about extrajudicial punishment a lot of people..... marble falls May 2012 #42

Well, if its homosexual rape based on racism it's OK then. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #46

Seriously obamanut2012 May 2012 #65

Sorry, I meant to reply to the person who originally made the comment. PSPS May 2012 #25

It's not a "joke." MineralMan May 2012 #80

You can look up "bubba" in the Urban Dictionary Sancho May 2012 #79

even here... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #11

I agree with that amuse bouche May 2012 #15

it seems that prison rape fetishists... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #22

There were some comments to that effect Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #83

2-4 to leave it alone on the first two posts in this thread RZM May 2012 #34

Thank you for your efforts. I also try to alert whenever I see the same and agree with you coalition_unwilling May 2012 #59

Let me start by saying I agree with condemnation of this attitude and belief kristopher May 2012 #49

Millions of Acts of Violence seen on the Skinner box (tv) may have Bo May 2012 #57

A self reinforcing cycle? kristopher May 2012 #60

I launched an attack?... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #91

It wasn't - that was poorly expressed kristopher May 2012 #95

You ever been in the same room with somebody with a bunch of body mass snooper2 May 2012 #62

Disgusting post RZM May 2012 #29

That's what I was going to say but I couldnt spell disgusting. nm rhett o rick May 2012 #90

Prison rape is hilarious, and totally deserved! Hooray! JackRiddler May 2012 #72

Are you intimating that you would be happy if he was raped in prison? rhett o rick May 2012 #89

Add me to the list of DUers who DON'T think prison rape is acceptable! LongTomH May 2012 #92

Not cool to be advocating prison rape. Not cool at all. Says alot about you. Kaleva May 2012 #93

He was a neighborhood watch Volunteer....... Grassy Knoll May 2012 #4

A neighborhood watch person volunteer? Is there another kind? crayfish May 2012 #23

This article cites him as a "Captain" Grassy Knoll May 2012 #27

The REAL neighborhood has made it clear he wasn't one of them. crim son May 2012 #47

He also wasn't an official watch volunteer obamanut2012 May 2012 #66

yeah, I wish they'd stop calling him that MH1 May 2012 #97

Kick. n/t Tx4obama May 2012 #6

In the big release they did last week, there was quite a bit blacked out Bolo Boffin May 2012 #7

Very interesting. n/t Tx4obama May 2012 #8

HOA appointed or self-appointed, he wasn't an official neighborhood watch shimonitanegi May 2012 #10

The way I understood, Control-Z May 2012 #39

Correct -- official neighborhood watched cannot be armed obamanut2012 May 2012 #67

Give MURDER suspect zimmerman enough "rope," and he'll hang himself solarman350 May 2012 #16

Good, I hope this guy goes to jail for life. The whole world is better off without him. Auntie Bush May 2012 #17

I hope someone shoves this in Alan Dershowitz's face Quixote1818 May 2012 #19

This guy is so racist! MyTwoSense May 2012 #20

Well, by golly! bitchkitty May 2012 #38

So now you can go back to freeperland leftynyc May 2012 #44

This should go well obamanut2012 May 2012 #68

Very few people on here believe Zimmerman was an open racist in the style of a KKK member. Tommy_Carcetti May 2012 #81

Well, that is certainly more than enough evidence to convict him. I suggest we just go ahead and crayfish May 2012 #21

From what I'm seeing ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #24

Bingo ! n/t jaysunb May 2012 #31

I agree, I found it very hard to believe Corey went with murder I based on what we have seen Quixote1818 May 2012 #33

I thought she went with murder 2. JDPriestly May 2012 #85

Murder II, my mistake. nt Quixote1818 May 2012 #86

"killing unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin" Canuckistanian May 2012 #26

Very unfortunate that so many need much more Scootaloo May 2012 #36

I agree and want to add that character assassination of this youth MindMover May 2012 #99

I think that the case is open and shut Scootaloo May 2012 #101

If the defense proves out of control teenager....probable cause.... MindMover May 2012 #102

They won't, and it would have no impact. Scootaloo May 2012 #103

I certainly hope and pray you are correct.....nt MindMover May 2012 #106

OK. Now why would the prosecutor and defense counsel both want to keep the same JDPriestly May 2012 #28

Reading the article, my impression is both sides want different stuff away from the public Quixote1818 May 2012 #35

I had the impression they were trying to seal the same evidence. Thanks. JDPriestly May 2012 #84

That was my first impression too Quixote1818 May 2012 #87

nra trolls are getting skeered frylock May 2012 #37

Can't see how this will effect the NRA at all. nt hack89 May 2012 #58

nra has a vested interest in syg.. frylock May 2012 #78

This case will have no impact on SYG regardless of the results hack89 May 2012 #82

Post removed Post removed May 2012 #40

Well, speaking of 'stupidity', that trait is perfectly illustrated in your post. Boabab May 2012 #41

ONLY....ZIMMERMAN KNOWS GETTINGTIRED May 2012 #43

You do know that's what trials are for right? lunatica May 2012 #45

Unless he spilled the beans in text messages or email. Quixote1818 May 2012 #51

Initially, I had some doubts that there wouldn't even be an indictment LanternWaste May 2012 #50

Outside DU racism definitely rules the day on this argument. ieoeja May 2012 #63

We're being toyed with by the media, set up for a major eruption of outrage which itself... slackmaster May 2012 #52

Should be interesting..... Tommy_Carcetti May 2012 #53

The parties to the case have nothing to do with the flow of "information" we're being spoon-fed slackmaster May 2012 #54

So what do you believe is at play? Tommy_Carcetti May 2012 #55

The motive is profit. Two, perhaps three conflicting narratives are being maintained by the media. slackmaster May 2012 #61

I agree the media has the tendency to play up stories. Tommy_Carcetti May 2012 #64

I respect your opinion, but I think the underlying contexts you perceive have been hyped as well slackmaster May 2012 #70

But just because one story is publicized and ten similar ones aren't doesn't necessarily.... Tommy_Carcetti May 2012 #73

I don't consider any murder to be frivolous. They're all tragic. Equally tragic. slackmaster May 2012 #75

The story is about one yard-ape of unspectacular intelligence and undeveloped social JDPriestly May 2012 #88

What is a "yard ape" in this context? nt hack89 May 2012 #98

From the urban dictionary... MindMover May 2012 #100

"People eschew meaningful activities"... ljm2002 May 2012 #105

This is what I am sick of reading and hearing regarding Zimmerman's protection of his neighborhood: olegramps May 2012 #56

Thank you! obamanut2012 May 2012 #69

and murder another human being...... MindMover May 2012 #107

Since they know by now that he was not a member of the neighborhood watch, let alone a captian, I Dragonfli May 2012 #76

Post removed Post removed May 2012 #96

Spam deleted by Violet_Crumble (MIR Team) misshu May 2012 #104

zimmerman is an unstable psychopath fascisthunter May 2012 #108

you should be an expert witness for the prosecution.... MindMover May 2012 #109

oh well fascisthunter May 2012 #110

Neighborhood watch captain .......once again......not true lunasun May 2012 #111