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chervilant

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28. Such predictable pablum.

Sun Dec 27, 2015, 02:51 PM

Dec 2015

I have to wonder: whatever has happened to critical thinking skills?!?

Many of us, HRC supporters AND Bernie supporters, would like to know what the hell happened with the NGP VAN database, and the missing firewall. We weren't there, and we must rely on whatever information we can glean from the M$M and online sources. I think the result of a lawsuit will give us more accurate information, don't you?

I think it highly unlikely that the Sanders Campaign would press this issue with a lawsuit if Bernie OR his campaign had any dishonest intent. Besides, most of us know which candidate is identified by a majority surveyed as "dishonest."

(BTW, please do note that I will not see any response you might have, since you've earned a well-deserved spot on my IL.)

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Bernie Sanders in 'negotiations' with DNC over data breach [View all] Omaha Steve Dec 2015 OP

�We have had our differences of opinions with the DNC". Gee, I wonder why? antigop Dec 2015 #1

Because Hillary Supporters arbitrarily ban people from the forum fasttense Dec 2015 #46

Foreign? Only if they shipped the jobs overseas first. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #47

Believe me it goes both ways too FloridaBlues Dec 2015 #65

That is not believable give me an example fasttense Dec 2015 #116

I hear this very allegation coming from both forums in regards to both candidates. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #103

Yeah right give me an example fasttense Dec 2015 #117

because HRC supporters mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #119

Sanders is on the mark, working for the American people. The findings of the investigation DhhD Dec 2015 #2

I hope Bernie sees this through to a public aring of what happened Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #3

Why did the OP put the word "negotiations" in quotation marks? Nitram Dec 2015 #96

What's to negotiate? Let's get to the bottom of it now. navarth Dec 2015 #4

Possibly who will be doing the investigation? jwirr Dec 2015 #6

That's kind of the problem. Jarqui Dec 2015 #7

The logs are easy to manipulate. We need to see the email trail. tecelote Dec 2015 #45

yes whoever controls the software questionseverything Dec 2015 #55

You "negotiate" when you don't want bad things about your people to be shown the light of day. MADem Dec 2015 #84

Actually, I disagree. You can also negotiate if you suspect but don't yet have JDPriestly Dec 2015 #89

You disagree? I'm shocked. nt MADem Dec 2015 #90

I'm betting the DNC Marty McGraw Dec 2015 #5

Poor Bernie! His supporters still determined on immolating Hortensis Dec 2015 #8

THIS is why this needs to continue. The Hillary supporters need a dose of reality. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #11

Burn, Bernie, burn until Hillary hurts? Hortensis Dec 2015 #12

They're trying to be diplomatic.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #15

Bernie's fired employees EXPORTED HRC files to their computer Hortensis Dec 2015 #16

"The dishonesty on this subject is staggering." Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #19

It would take decades of this kind of crap 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #83

Such predictable pablum. chervilant Dec 2015 #28

Not according NGPVAN kartski Dec 2015 #39

I'd rationalize it as such too should my bias demand unsupported allegations to maintain itself LanternWaste Dec 2015 #104

That's funny considering Hillary's campaign manager accused Bernie of stealing.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #105

Don't engage, Spitfire demwing Dec 2015 #23

Actually, I'm looking to remind viewers that DU Hortensis Dec 2015 #26

Don't you see it's bad for Hillary to have another story about her unsecured data? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #34

Theoretically a small bit. But that idea's being pushed Hortensis Dec 2015 #56

I wasn't interested in a debate.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #32

lol, by all means then demwing Dec 2015 #54

Sure. You and I can both poke. The usual Hortensis Dec 2015 #70

I'm already famous over there. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #72

It's likely you who inspired me, Spitfire. I both feel sorry Hortensis Dec 2015 #93

I was a Kucinich supporter before.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #98

If Bernie could educate and direct those motivated by anger Hortensis Dec 2015 #99

LOL!! Bernie never "despised" the democratic party. He voted with them.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #100

Its president made him want to puke. Rose Siding Dec 2015 #101

I'm sick of America's post-WWII policy of promoting Capitalism too.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #102

Not so exaggerated when nukes were pointed at us Rose Siding Dec 2015 #108

The whole "Red Dawn" thing was a fantasy though.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #110

In Cuba? Rose Siding Dec 2015 #111

Cuba was a case of tossing out a dictatorship.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #115

"My own feeling is that the Democratic Party is ideologically bankrupt.� Hortensis Dec 2015 #107

Why is it so difficult to see those are NOT the ones he's talking about? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #109

Spitfire, not everyone who's working hard and not getting ahead Hortensis Dec 2015 #112

I really don'y believe those people are as plentiful as they would like to be.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #113

We seem to be talking about different things. Hortensis Dec 2015 #114

I meant the 25% you mentioned.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #118

Vanilla Rhapsody is that you? davidpdx Dec 2015 #91

Sorry to disappoint. I'm more of a black coffee type. Hortensis Dec 2015 #92

The only reason for negotiating is that Bernie might not get the conclusion yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #30

Bernie isn't interested in distractions from real issues. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #31

What? yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #35

I wouldn't if I were a Hillary supporter either.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #37

We'll see. I haven't seen proof of that yet. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #40

Not surprised, there was a major holiday recently. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #43

I mean in regards to support yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #41

There were plenty of posts here of Hillary supporters grave dancing on the Sanders campaign.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #44

I'm the ONLY Sanders supporter here... joshcryer Dec 2015 #49

And I'm a Hillary supporter who thinks Bernie is completely innocent ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #59

That's Weavers doing. joshcryer Dec 2015 #60

I agree. I find Sanders delightfully refreshing. ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #69

What I find hilarious is the glee Hillary supporters had when the story first broke.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #71

This issue has brought out insanity... joshcryer Dec 2015 #79

It's early. There's plenty of time for the next shiny object. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #82

That was Weavers doing. joshcryer Dec 2015 #52

Jury Results Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #17

Rather than alert we have the eyeroll.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #20

so then why is the sanders' campaign insisting on hopemountain Dec 2015 #77

John Kerry would have been elected President in 2004 INdemo Dec 2015 #9

She should have been fired when she actively lobbied for Republicans Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #14

Yep. nt SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #21

excellent grasswire Dec 2015 #18

Now, come on. Sabotage/SACRIFICE a John Kerry presidency Hortensis Dec 2015 #24

Well you know MC Cauliffe didn't do a damn INdemo Dec 2015 #67

That's called circular reasoning, In. Hortensis Dec 2015 #68

Indemolition, that's just plain silly. Nitram Dec 2015 #97

So Bernie doesn't think there was a conspiracy? JoePhilly Dec 2015 #10

Look for the results of the complete analysis in December 2016. jalan48 Dec 2015 #13

That's what worries me. nt SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #22

The election has been a set-up from day one. jalan48 Dec 2015 #25

Fraternities get to pick their members... brooklynite Dec 2015 #27

Fine, but SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #38

I don't know why Sanders fans are still complaining about.... George II Dec 2015 #51

Depends on which polls you are looking at, I guess. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #61

We want Democrats on TV, shaping the discourse of important issues. Chef Eric Dec 2015 #94

"Clinton supporters" don't a difficult time understanding that, "we" just don't think... George II Dec 2015 #95

Which parts of Sanders' platform are not compatible with Democratic values? nt Chef Eric Dec 2015 #106

That graph will change now that this... joshcryer Dec 2015 #53

The DNC is the sorority in this case. jalan48 Dec 2015 #66

The curves on that graph are going in opposite directions. George II Dec 2015 #73

Don't forget the most important part - she is the No. 1 choice of THE PEOPLE in the D Party too! Lil Missy Dec 2015 #36

Currently. No primaries as of yet, and a lot of them to go. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #62

This election may fool DWS and Hillary and it could be 2008 all over again INdemo Dec 2015 #75

Are you sure I won't believe it unless that unnamed Sanders campaign official confirms it... Historic NY Dec 2015 #29

Bernie's looking for a face-saving way to dismiss his lawsuit. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #33

Even Weaver has to face the reality the lawyers are telling him. joshcryer Dec 2015 #57

Thats BS and you know it. INdemo Dec 2015 #76

I'm not the one grasping here. nt SunSeeker Dec 2015 #86

Hopefully DWS / DNC throw him a bone.... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #81

I thought they didn't do anything wrong. What..... George II Dec 2015 #42

Good, Weaver really messed up here. joshcryer Dec 2015 #48

+1 Yes you have. n/t MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #58

Great for Bernie creeksneakers2 Dec 2015 #50

Great now, not so great a week or so ago. It should never have gone as far as it did. George II Dec 2015 #74

Sander is in a very weak bargaining position and so it is wise to negotiate Gothmog Dec 2015 #63

No, it is more clear that DNC under DWS along with their "vendor" in effect had signs like this... cascadiance Dec 2015 #64

I bet they get an apology from DWS. joshcryer Dec 2015 #80

Yep, he needs to tamp this shit down, and quick. His STAFF lied to him. His STAFF MADem Dec 2015 #85

What is there to negotiate? You hire overzealous people, they steal data, etc. Hoyt Dec 2015 #78

I want to know...has the HRC Campaign had access to Sanders and O'Malley data... SoapBox Dec 2015 #87

Wake me up when Bernie Sanders claims that... brooklynite Dec 2015 #88