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185. Do you think if I and my wife

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 11:42 AM

Jan 2016

went to Saudi Arabia, we'd be given the same consideration for violating one of their cultural taboos?
If my wife went for a drive, or I had a beer, there wouldn't be and hand wringing and "it's just their culture."
There is that 74-year old British pensioner that is due to receive 350 lashes for bringing alcohol into the country, even though the punishment would probably kill him. Westerners do not get one bit of slack over there for violations of their religious laws.
They should be treated just like any other criminal there, with the exception that as soon as their sentence is over, they are shipped back to the country they came from (or in the case of fake passports, the country they say they're from).

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Cologne Police: Roving Packs Sexually Assaulted Dozens on New Year's Eve [View all] oberliner Jan 2016 OP

Germany shocked by Cologne New Year gang assaults on women MowCowWhoHow III Jan 2016 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author whathehell Jan 2016 #4

The war on women appears to be moving to Europe philosslayer Jan 2016 #2

Per the last sentence of the article, possibly they were not "European"? CanonRay Jan 2016 #3

The report states "The men were of Arab or North African appearance". whathehell Jan 2016 #5

Unpossible FrodosPet Jan 2016 #9

I think you forgot the sarcasm tag MrsMatt Jan 2016 #12

I would hope it would be self evident FrodosPet Jan 2016 #37

I heard the sarcasm demigoddess Jan 2016 #93

Poe's law in action... TipTok Jan 2016 #142

+1 get the red out Jan 2016 #33

Is this one of those "You can't handle the truth" thingies? Ivan Kaputski Jan 2016 #50

What "traditions and values" might those be jberryhill Jan 2016 #154

Lol. Not European at all. yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #47

Yeah, that sound you hear is the airplane of your narrative crashing into a mountain of facts. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #124

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #6

Sorry to see that you got a bogus hide down-thread. Coventina Jan 2016 #20

Yeah, I don't get it at all. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #177

Agree with post #20 get the red out Jan 2016 #36

I'll add my apologies leftynyc Jan 2016 #44

Maher was right? So would you support Donald Trump's Muslim policy? nt alp227 Jan 2016 #118

Spare me the hysteria leftynyc Jan 2016 #120

Rape culture is clearly not an exclusively American thing. bullwinkle428 Jan 2016 #7

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #8

Clearly not oberliner Jan 2016 #10

yeah, demigoddess Jan 2016 #94

American certainly does do it better than just about everyone else however. philosslayer Jan 2016 #11

Do you have a link to back your statement? lunatica Jan 2016 #19

There have been multiple discussions on the American rape culture philosslayer Jan 2016 #21

Evidently you don't do your research either lunatica Jan 2016 #22

Well, with all those exposed women get the red out Jan 2016 #34

That is definitely not true oberliner Jan 2016 #39

Got any numbers to back leftynyc Jan 2016 #45

"Roving Packs of Men".... Triana Jan 2016 #13

ISnt this racist? Fix The Stupid Jan 2016 #14

I didn't reference color in my comment and in fact Triana Jan 2016 #16

You call them "rabid dogs" and haven't read the article? Fix The Stupid Jan 2016 #24

I don't care what color they are!! SkyDaddy7 Jan 2016 #26

BINGO. Well said. n/t Triana Jan 2016 #28

Very well said duplex Jan 2016 #68

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #159

Based on their behavior, YES! Triana Jan 2016 #27

Sexual abusers are rabid dog FrodosPet Jan 2016 #41

Ok, my attempt at proving a point was a little clumsy... Fix The Stupid Jan 2016 #66

They're roving packs of DOGS!!!! SkyDaddy7 Jan 2016 #29

insulting roving packs of rapists is not racist nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #31

Exactly. Triana Jan 2016 #32

It's an insult to dogs get the red out Jan 2016 #35

Fitting user name. Ace Rothstein Jan 2016 #46

Not racist because it's not about race. It's about gender based violence and men behaving brutally Bucky Jan 2016 #98

I agree, but in regard to "being white", Arabs are Caucasian whathehell Jan 2016 #129

I think you don't know what "race" is Bucky Jan 2016 #143

I think you know that deinition is not what's commonly understand by the term.. whathehell Jan 2016 #178

Only if one claims their atrocious behavior is caused by their race. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #111

Agreed. And if they are christx30 Jan 2016 #15

Well that's no good. Shame on them! closeupready Jan 2016 #17

Anyone to whom this comes as a surprise...... DFW Jan 2016 #18

It came as a surprise to me philosslayer Jan 2016 #23

Be glad to. I live in Germany. Do you? DFW Jan 2016 #25

Most of us on DU don't live in Germany. LisaL Jan 2016 #30

Have to disagree there DFW Jan 2016 #42

Thank you for your response philosslayer Jan 2016 #38

Ah, there, as the Bard says, is the rub. DFW Jan 2016 #49

An excellent response philosslayer Jan 2016 #52

This post reads like an Onion article. Ace Rothstein Jan 2016 #54

Not at all philosslayer Jan 2016 #56

Many of those arriving in Europe have no intention of being a part of the "mixing bowl". Ace Rothstein Jan 2016 #61

There is good and bad DFW Jan 2016 #86

Me too leftynyc Jan 2016 #90

You've been "philoslayered" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2016 #109

Tell me where my guess for the future of Europe is wrong? philosslayer Jan 2016 #116

It's wrong because leftynyc Jan 2016 #121

It's amazing how everything will work out perfectly The2ndWheel Jan 2016 #65

Ick. That sounds horrible speaking as an Art Historian. Coventina Jan 2016 #74

Most cathedrals are cruciform in plan view. Bulldoze 'em! Throd Jan 2016 #76

This is true as well. And nearly all of them are repositories of many works of art. Coventina Jan 2016 #82

Yeah, that would be like the Taliban destoying the ancient Buddha in Afghanistan whathehell Jan 2016 #96

The unclear part is how much each side will give and take DFW Jan 2016 #80

So instead of progressing, they'll revert? Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #112

That is the dumbest thing I have read so far this week...but it is only Wednesday LOL snooper2 Jan 2016 #148

Oh? philosslayer Jan 2016 #161

Great... they will ruin another area of the world GummyBearz Jan 2016 #158

Please elaborate... philosslayer Jan 2016 #160

Oh god, please! smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #164

Great post duplex Jan 2016 #77

There are a LOT of countries and cultures out there DFW Jan 2016 #84

My solution to this: deport them coyote Jan 2016 #58

As I said in a previous post philosslayer Jan 2016 #59

I totally disagree. coyote Jan 2016 #60

How will the migrants "strengthen" Germany and it's culture romanic Jan 2016 #62

Just like migrants always strengthen and revitalize cultures philosslayer Jan 2016 #63

When did Germany and it's culture needed to be "revitalized"? romanic Jan 2016 #64

All cultures need to be revitalized from time to time philosslayer Jan 2016 #71

Well some of those migrants romanic Jan 2016 #72

But the Italians and the Irish are closer to christx30 Jan 2016 #78

It's not going to strengthen German and it's culture. christx30 Jan 2016 #67

Xenophelia: the empty headed opposite of xenophobia. Throd Jan 2016 #75

Yup. christx30 Jan 2016 #79

And it gets stronger with increased distance from the problem. (n/t) Nihil Jan 2016 #128

Consider the implications of this diagram jberryhill Jan 2016 #155

Roving packs of rapists are an "inconvenience" to you? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #130

My exact reaction. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #140

How could Merkel not see what an absolute disaster this was going to be? smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #174

I could live under those conditions for years tabasco Jan 2016 #43

You have an advantge all the same DFW Jan 2016 #51

Exactly philosslayer Jan 2016 #57

Say that when your daughter or wife gets assaulted. tabasco Jan 2016 #83

It is the responsibility, if not always within the capacity DFW Jan 2016 #87

Too fucking bad leftynyc Jan 2016 #91

+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #175

👍🏼 katsy Jan 2016 #176

No it does not! FrodosPet Jan 2016 #151

What culture teaches that violent assault and robbery are correct behavior? tabasco Jan 2016 #81

It's less black and white than that DFW Jan 2016 #88

Do you think if I and my wife christx30 Jan 2016 #185

There is a difference between taking a vow of celibacy hedgehog Jan 2016 #55

No excuses made DFW Jan 2016 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jan 2016 #104

where do you get that it is tens of thousands of young guys 6chars Jan 2016 #131

From being there DFW Jan 2016 #135

What do you propose as a solution to the problem shown in this diagram? jberryhill Jan 2016 #156

Are you serious? DFW Jan 2016 #157

The problem is not "gender imbalance" jberryhill Jan 2016 #162

It's not that simple. matk Jan 2016 #179

I am surprised. Are these sorts of things common in the countries they come from? PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #183

It differs widely DFW Jan 2016 #184

Be a shame if some of this miscreants were among those refugees claiming to be from Syria bigworld Jan 2016 #40

Well, you know the black market for Blue_Tires Jan 2016 #85

Wow romanic Jan 2016 #48

Unfortunately, many here are painting with a very broad brush philosslayer Jan 2016 #53

Just upthread you attempted to claim this was America exporting rape culture now you Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #133

A few of the attackers? oberliner Jan 2016 #137

Weren't a lot of women assaulted or harrassed during the protests in Egypt? hollowdweller Jan 2016 #69

The cultures will merge philosslayer Jan 2016 #70

You make a lot of assumptions based on weird premises. Throd Jan 2016 #73

I'd bet any sum they'll do no such thing. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #113

I agree with you leftynyc Jan 2016 #122

I find Bernin Jan 2016 #89

"She obviously despises Germany". closeupready Jan 2016 #92

Very strange rationalization. Bernin Jan 2016 #95

Are you from Mars, or something? This is what she's thinking in that video: closeupready Jan 2016 #97

Wow! Bernin Jan 2016 #99

You think 12 years of history christx30 Jan 2016 #100

Ok, the two of you are playing stupid, and I'm done with this squabble. closeupready Jan 2016 #102

I'm not playing stupid. christx30 Jan 2016 #106

Hopefully Germany will survie to the next election. Bernin Jan 2016 #103

They have survived the last 2000 years DFW Jan 2016 #108

Cologne mayor recommends women keep "one arm length distance" to avoid assaults like on NYE MowCowWhoHow III Jan 2016 #101

She also said that there is no sign the alleged assaults were linked to refugees philosslayer Jan 2016 #105

Or perhaps she's a fucking idiot... MowCowWhoHow III Jan 2016 #107

The same thing happens every year in New Orleans during Mardi Gras, gets very little notice... George II Jan 2016 #114

Part of what makes this story so shocking is that it took place in Cologne, Germany oberliner Jan 2016 #115

Islamophobic backlash in 3....2...1... mwrguy Jan 2016 #117

What would be an appropriate response? oberliner Jan 2016 #119

That's rapidly becomming leftynyc Jan 2016 #123

Who calls Sweden the rape capital of the world? mwrguy Jan 2016 #150

I've heard the term leftynyc Jan 2016 #152

I didn't call you a right-wing agitator mwrguy Jan 2016 #153

I'm not clicking any of those links leftynyc Jan 2016 #166

That's a screen shot of the top google results. mwrguy Jan 2016 #167

He's not the only source on that list leftynyc Jan 2016 #168

Every source on that list is a racist, right-wing provocateur mwrguy Jan 2016 #169

Wow leftynyc Jan 2016 #171

you can see how i worded the search. it's in the screencap. mwrguy Jan 2016 #172

I went with rape statistics Sweden leftynyc Jan 2016 #173

"Islamophobia" is clearly the issue here romanic Jan 2016 #125

Too late RandiFan1290 Jan 2016 #126

Almost no one has mentioned the religion of the perpetrators on this thread oberliner Jan 2016 #127

I used to think victim-blaming was pretty low until I saw perpetrator-sympathy. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #134

I don't know what happened, but the official language being used BeyondGeography Jan 2016 #132

The reporting on this has been quite extensive oberliner Jan 2016 #136

We're still at the nobody fully knows what happened stage BeyondGeography Jan 2016 #138

These men were moving around, traveling in groups, and behaving like animals oberliner Jan 2016 #139

You're just a spectator, you can say whatever you want BeyondGeography Jan 2016 #141

No language was used equating members of a minority group with dogs oberliner Jan 2016 #146

"Roving Packs" philosslayer Jan 2016 #144

Let's just say they are good people who did a bad thing 6chars Jan 2016 #145

You need video to corroborate these claims? oberliner Jan 2016 #147

Perhaps leftynyc Jan 2016 #149

Here is a 1st witness account: coyote Jan 2016 #163

90 complaints? 1000 attackers? Consider the numbers bellow. Ash_F Jan 2016 #165

"You rape our women and you’re taking over our country." mwrguy Jan 2016 #170

So German white women romanic Jan 2016 #180

Of course not, but that's pretty much what I'm seeing from Islamophobes mwrguy Jan 2016 #181

Islamophobes or not, the fact remains that a large group of penis owners ruthlessly attacked women FrodosPet Jan 2016 #182