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Gov. Snyder lied: Flint water switch was not about money, records show [View all]

Source: motor city muckraker

The Flint water crisis that led to thousands of people being poisoned began because state officials maintained it would save the cash-strapped city money by disconnecting from the Detroit Water and Sewerage Department (DWSD) and using a different source.

But it turns out, DWSD offered the state-controlled city a deal that would have saved Flint more money by staying with Detroit.

An e-mail obtained by Motor City Muckraker shows the deal would have saved the city $800 million over 30 years, which was 20% more inexpensive than switching to the Karegnondi Water Authority.

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So what was it about? Some have suggested that Snyder was motivated by a desire to break up DWSD and ultimately privatize it. In the summer of 2015, DWSD was split into two entities: the DWSD and the Great Lakes Water Authority.

Read more: http://motorcitymuckraker.com/2016/01/23/gov-snyder-lied-flint-water-switch-was-not-about-money-records-show/

Simply disgusting is all I can say. Democrats have to use this horrible story to take back elected office all over this country.

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Gov. Snyder lied: Flint water switch was not about money, records show [View all] Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 OP

verrrrry interesting - nt Locrian Jan 2016 #1

kicking for the mendacity of it all. . . .n/t annabanana Jan 2016 #2

And on saving money, when the problem us corrected we can see Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #3

Democrats need to operate more like Republicans. jalan48 Jan 2016 #4

I would phrase it more like this - operate more like an effective & robust opposition party - which Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2016 #7

Yes. The Republican's are able to take routine things and blow them out of proportion. jalan48 Jan 2016 #10

yes, this is bigger than republicans NJCher Jan 2016 #17

they won't. They agree with one GOP principle: yurbud Jan 2016 #20

If the Democrats don't use this issue to win, they are not even trying Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #25

Well they never do seem that interested in attacks LiberalLovinLug Jan 2016 #99

I agree with everything you wrote! Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #100

Three words... Grins Jan 2016 #38

DWS is already late in this. Too busy..... MaeScott Jan 2016 #44

if a dem gov had done this, he would be arrested questionseverything Jan 2016 #59

Let us never operate like Republicans. Other than that, I agree with making a big deal about this. trillion Jan 2016 #64

republicans have 1200 think tank coordinated radio stations certainot Jan 2016 #74

Not to mention ut oh Jan 2016 #110

The only problem with this is... Kalidurga Jan 2016 #76

An even bigger reason to make it a major issue. jalan48 Jan 2016 #82

I know Kalidurga Jan 2016 #83

Good question. jalan48 Jan 2016 #84

Well I do think Obama should use his podium for this issue. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #85

I hope they do. Unfortunately, the corporate media can choose not to focus on it unless jalan48 Jan 2016 #86

Yeah well it's not like we can expect MSM to cover anything that would benefit people. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #88

He cannot even arouse himself to suppress a pissant KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #115

Since I sent a letter to Snyder expressing my horror about Flint, mountain grammy Jan 2016 #5

Awesome of you Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #41

In Your Next Email...... left on green only Jan 2016 #105

The shock doctrine, create a crisis, then impose your own solution. alfredo Jan 2016 #6

YESSSSSSSSSSS - thats it in a nushell nm Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2016 #8

That is what the Conservative Governors surrounding the Great Lakes want. They glinda Jan 2016 #60

Is there a benefit in owning the Mississippi headwaters? alfredo Jan 2016 #72

Well if you pollute from top to bottom and mine, log, etc.... all along the way. glinda Jan 2016 #93

It seems like it is a responsibility that is thrust on the state. alfredo Jan 2016 #95

Yep Solly Mack Jan 2016 #69

Bingo! Octafish Jan 2016 #9

I've been saying it for years, Octafish navarth Jan 2016 #46

Abso-pure-lutely, navarth. Octafish Jan 2016 #52

This reporter... navarth Jan 2016 #56

jesus f'n christ on captain's wafer -- "she was shown the door a few days after" nashville_brook Jan 2016 #57

Just when we thought energy scarcity was an ugly fight ... DirkGently Jan 2016 #67

THAT I can certainly believe.... It's every GOPers wet dream to privatize all infrastructure groundloop Jan 2016 #11

A desire to break them up and privatize them? abelenkpe Jan 2016 #12

"But don't democrats champion charter schools?" TBF Jan 2016 #16

True abelenkpe Jan 2016 #55

I think there have been times TBF Jan 2016 #112

OK, but they dmn well better support the idea of maintaining public services and infrastructure - Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2016 #18

The plot thickens. FailureToCommunicate Jan 2016 #13

Wow he was willing to murder and maim for his ideology flamingdem Jan 2016 #14

Michigan hasn't enough Democrats in office to do anything; AG is GOP and wants to succeed Snyder Proserpina Jan 2016 #33

Sounds like corruption of various kinds at work flamingdem Jan 2016 #34

Same reason the Fossil Fuel and Mining Industry do it. glinda Jan 2016 #62

who writes this shit "20% more inexpensive"? why not "20% less expensive" Demonaut Jan 2016 #15

privatization rarely has to do with saving money... yurbud Jan 2016 #19

the corrupt madness of conservatism Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #24

unfortunately, most Dems don't aim their stake at the heart of the beast yurbud Jan 2016 #36

OF COURSE it was about Privatization! Proserpina Jan 2016 #21

seems obvious now, but I never really connected it before Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #22

I do live in Michigan, you are correct. The news wasn't obvious, but the actions were. Proserpina Jan 2016 #32

power games oldandhappy Jan 2016 #23

Dems need to ABOLISH privatization at all levels of government johnfunk Jan 2016 #26

If one rich kid was poisoned by lead by a house builder, what would lawsuit net? lostnfound Jan 2016 #27

Hang the bastards that did this. nt valerief Jan 2016 #28

It is still about the money... 2naSalit Jan 2016 #29

Didn't he suspend democracy in order to do this? yellerpup Jan 2016 #30

K&R. Such cruelty. Poisoning people less important to Gov Snyder than Privatization. Overseas Jan 2016 #31

I heard a Detroit area reporter on NPR blaming Obama! robbob Jan 2016 #35

michigan radio dot org has tons of info - and yes there was some dragging of feet by EPA but at Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2016 #39

Goes along with Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #43

Ten deaths directly attributed to the water so far Proserpina Jan 2016 #61

Thanks for the info robbob Jan 2016 #117

THE OUTRAGE HAS to come from "we the people" - always has been that way, always will. The civil Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2016 #37

The Emergency Manager is saying he played no role in the water switch. it was the rladdi Jan 2016 #40

Republican governor Rick Snyder is solely to blame. jimmyzvoice Jan 2016 #42

yep-- the whole thing was so insanely un-democratic all the way around Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #47

You are totally correct, Snyder is totally at fault, needs to go to jail... Stuart G Jan 2016 #49

dear jimmyzvoice annabanana Jan 2016 #50

this is why his emails and communications hopemountain Jan 2016 #90

K&R vkkv Jan 2016 #45

Yes...that is it, I hope that goes to court...privatize the water!!! great post. nt Stuart G Jan 2016 #48

So, it's worse that "saving money"...It's about making money.... blackspade Jan 2016 #51

"Democrats have to use this horrible story... chapdrum Jan 2016 #53

Mass Murder Was Committed In Flint, Michigan cer7711 Jan 2016 #54

"disposable in the name of privatization." This is the core of running gov't like a business. suffragette Jan 2016 #58

I'm not surprised. Republican Gov. Rich Snyder has done other stuff like this, including an assault trillion Jan 2016 #63

All for the Kochs I imagine since they are by there.... glinda Jan 2016 #65

As I understand it from a friend in Michigan, Lindsay Jan 2016 #78

Yes. That family also.....but they are all surrounding the Lakes. glinda Jan 2016 #92

indeed-- and that scandal is almost as bad and has yet to hit the public consciousness Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #77

I wondered mercuryblues Jan 2016 #66

Union busting.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #68

Which also was not about money so much as it was about clearing away Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2016 #81

I see Republicans as complete and total idiots.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #89

well yah, that too - both/and Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2016 #113

I'd call these guys economic terrorists, but they don't care that they create terror yurbud Jan 2016 #70

Terrorists Yes billhicks76 Jan 2016 #75

Arrest, charge, try, convict, jail Snyder. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2016 #71

Criminal. zentrum Jan 2016 #73

This is what results from vulture capitalism emsimon33 Jan 2016 #79

i have read past documents going back to 2010 from the city council and also the rladdi Jan 2016 #80

then, it WAS about money hopemountain Jan 2016 #87

Snyder wanted to ride his management prowess into the Senate, and then the White House Proserpina Jan 2016 #91

The country needs to hear about the results of the GOP led march to privatization.... zwyziec Jan 2016 #94

I agree leanforward Jan 2016 #98

Privatization scares the shit out of me. airplaneman Jan 2016 #96

I agree leanforward Jan 2016 #101

Of course it was about privatization. sulphurdunn Jan 2016 #97

I agree leanforward Jan 2016 #102

Were Snyder an honorable man sulphurdunn Jan 2016 #103

Ideological capitalism should be feared at least as much as command economy socialism HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #116

I'll sign any recall petitions that come my way. N/t roamer65 Jan 2016 #104

Hmmmm (nt) ghostsinthemachine Jan 2016 #106

So not save the town money but make himself a money deal? Person 2713 Jan 2016 #107

make an example out of him reddread Jan 2016 #108

k&r! nt steve2470 Jan 2016 #109

Wow! k&r nt bananas Jan 2016 #111

I very much hope that Snyder and the republicans involved U of M Dem Jan 2016 #114