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In reply to the discussion: Secret US flight flew over Scottish airspace to capture Snowden [View all]LiberalLovinLug
(14,735 posts)First off, you do not ask anything that can be proven by anyone here on a message board. its mostly cherrypicking parts of his story and asking for posters to confirm your paranoia that something smells fishy. And all of it is non consequential to the meat of the whole story.
ie...What happened during 11 days in Hong Kong?. Ah....probably hiding out and not wanting to be visible.
Or How did his "scrawny ass" girlfriend come and go as she pleased to Moscow? Ah...probably because she is not accused of anything by either country.
He lied on an application to get a job. OMG! Shoot him.
What kind of job is he doing while in Russia?....He says it is web based. Why should YOU have to know exactly what other than to calm your twitchy paranoid brain? Maybe he has a job with Wikileaks, that is his business.
Why is Putin letting him stay? Because he is an embarrassment to Washington the longer he is allowed to be a public figure and criticize his own country. Same reason he lets RT, who you used in a link, in the US have free reign to talk all the shit they can about the US and other Western countries corporate bad behaviours, but you don't hear any criticism of Putin. (And I'm ok with that because otherwise you'd never hear a lot of those other stories from hosts like Thom Hartmann. there are plenty of US places to read how evil Putin is)
There is nothing to "prove" you right. Mostly because it is all conjecture on your part. All you have done is pieced together some dire James Bond movie in your head. We are not ever going to prove your delusional paranoid opinions that ....what? I don't even know..Snowden is really Doctor Evil? He is working closely with Putin to infiltrate the Pentagon computers? He is not even close to having that capability. He took that information on the servers, he didn't take some top secret skeleton key to unlock all future passcodes.
Anyways, this is kind of aimless. But I have some time before my hockey game starts.
You continue to ignore the overwhelming relevance of the actual story. The revelations of PRISM and how the NSA was mass collecting private information from Americans for years without proper oversight. And that Clapper had to return to Congress with his tail between his legs and admit he lied about it IS significant. (And he should have been charged with lying to Congress) And how Snowden singlehandedly forced a public conversation to happen about what is the proper balance between intrusion into citizens privacy, and national security.
All those other questions are superfluous.
You want to know why so many on here don't take you seriously? Take another whistleblower, Jeffrey Wigand who squealed on the tobacco industry hiding harmful results in tests. THAT is the story.
If after his shocking revelations came out, someone like you was on the message boards with a whole bunch of questions like:
In this story an interesting paragraph;
http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/1996/05/wigand199605
He was sent briefly to Vietnam, he told me, although he brushed off the experience: It was 1963, and nothing was going on. I wondered at the defensive tone in his voice. Later B&W would challenge whether he had been in Vietnam at all. (According to one investigator, he was there for about a month.)
So let me ask you: Why was Wigand really there? Why did he just say "nothing was going on?" and why do some like B&W question whether he was even there?
So far I have not heard anyone answer these questions. So until someone does, its obvious that Wigand is just an arrogant attention seeker. He got his big movie deal which was all he was after. Dammit I'm going to go out and buy a pack of cigs just to show em!
There is a saying. "Too clever for your own good". But have fun.