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In reply to the discussion: Secret US flight flew over Scottish airspace to capture Snowden [View all]Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)91. Once again:
"And why this insistence that he champion Russian people's rights as well?"
-- Because it's beyond hypocritical for anybody under the protection of the Russian government to call out the U.S. for comparatively lesser transgressions... And every time Russia gets caught doing something cute (or heinous) and Snowden remains silent, then it's no big leap to question whether he's switched sides...
"And it is folks like you that MAKE the story all about Snowden."
-- I'm not the one paying his speaking fees, writing his biography, filming his movie, or building statues of him... If anything, I'm trying to tear those fucking statues down... So please keep telling me how *I* am responsible...
"The MSM more than anyone makes the story center around Snowden to deflect the real issue"
-- You mean like Greenwald? Snowden's personal PR rep and brand manager? Because he's done more to promote Snowflake more than anybody else...
"I have to stop. I don't think I will be changing your opinion on anything."
-- Just like how I haven't changed the minds of anybody on your side... I don't even dare point out fresh lies and/or contradictions anymore unless I'm in a fighting mood and want to deal with the shitstorm.. Only time will tell who will be eventually proven right... So until then, we wait.
"Just so you know, whether you believe me or not, Snowden is a tiny part of the story. As is where he stopped over, where he lives now, or even if he is a jerk or not. The story was never about him."
--So why does he constantly whore for the spotlight? Is somebody putting a gun to his head and making him grant prime time interviews?? Why have there been so many threads on DU praising him if the story was "never about him?" Why have the Snowdenistas so virulently shut down ANY and ALL discussion about spying abuses that don't involve the NSA? You say Snowden is a 'tiny' part of the story and I need to believe you like that's God's word or something... That's your opinion, and it is easily countered by overwhelming evidence to the contrary...
-- Because it's beyond hypocritical for anybody under the protection of the Russian government to call out the U.S. for comparatively lesser transgressions... And every time Russia gets caught doing something cute (or heinous) and Snowden remains silent, then it's no big leap to question whether he's switched sides...
"And it is folks like you that MAKE the story all about Snowden."
-- I'm not the one paying his speaking fees, writing his biography, filming his movie, or building statues of him... If anything, I'm trying to tear those fucking statues down... So please keep telling me how *I* am responsible...
"The MSM more than anyone makes the story center around Snowden to deflect the real issue"
-- You mean like Greenwald? Snowden's personal PR rep and brand manager? Because he's done more to promote Snowflake more than anybody else...
"I have to stop. I don't think I will be changing your opinion on anything."
-- Just like how I haven't changed the minds of anybody on your side... I don't even dare point out fresh lies and/or contradictions anymore unless I'm in a fighting mood and want to deal with the shitstorm.. Only time will tell who will be eventually proven right... So until then, we wait.
"Just so you know, whether you believe me or not, Snowden is a tiny part of the story. As is where he stopped over, where he lives now, or even if he is a jerk or not. The story was never about him."
--So why does he constantly whore for the spotlight? Is somebody putting a gun to his head and making him grant prime time interviews?? Why have there been so many threads on DU praising him if the story was "never about him?" Why have the Snowdenistas so virulently shut down ANY and ALL discussion about spying abuses that don't involve the NSA? You say Snowden is a 'tiny' part of the story and I need to believe you like that's God's word or something... That's your opinion, and it is easily countered by overwhelming evidence to the contrary...
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I wish we could suspend DOD spending and 'homeland security' spending , a couple years.
Sunlei
Feb 2016
#1
I think the "shock" is that our government give FAR LESS respect to whistleblowers...
cascadiance
Feb 2016
#4
PRISM had nothing to do with personal privacy or civil liberties? Are you serious? nt
retrowire
Feb 2016
#19
The jury was never convened because the gov't didn't indict itself. Big surprise.
leveymg
Feb 2016
#77
Proof that our government is illegally spying on us has nothing to do with personal privacy or civil
trillion
Feb 2016
#95
If Snowden had stayed in any US-friendly state, i.e. followers of the hegemonic leader,
OnyxCollie
Feb 2016
#30
The NSA docs leaked showed that NSA was not following the "strict rules" then in place regarding
leveymg
Feb 2016
#81
Is anyone harmed when the gov't universally spies on its citizens, profiles them, and retains their
leveymg
Feb 2016
#83
It is what is always has been which is not consistent with what you would like to advertise it as.
xocet
Feb 2016
#69
It should be noted that you cannot respond to OnyxCollie's comment; your shifting misinformation...
xocet
Feb 2016
#75