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In reply to the discussion: Clinton thunders to big win in South Carolina [View all]Stevepol
(4,234 posts)Not so long ago in a Democratic primary to determine the Dem candidate to run for senator I believe, Alvin Greene, a black guy who did absolutely no campaigning, just filed to run and nobody in the state knew him from Adam. He was and still is a complete nonentity, who also had some criminal problems as well, the details of which I don't recall now. The guy running against him was a well-known and well-liked judge who did a good bit of campaigning to make sure he won the primary. But it did no good since he was running not only against Greene but against the ES&S Ivotronic vote theft machines. Greene won with 2/3's of the vote. In the early and absentee voting where paper was used, the judge did quite well, winning by an even greater margin I believe than Green won with the assistance of the Ivotronics.
The Democratic Party of SC, careful as always not to offend anybody or hurt anybody's feelings, refused to demand a re-run of the election, even tho in the Democratic discussions of the election results, a number of computer experts testified that the results were almost certainly a result of some sort of computer malfunction or programming problem. The logical thing to do would have been to demand the primary be run again using hand-counted paper ballots, but of course, the Dem Party has never in recent years been too concerned about logic or even about winning and losing too much as long as they could have a nice looking election that people could be proud of, and as long as nobody's feelings were hurt. To investigate something as obvious as a computer problem, whether just a machine malfunction or something else like (God Forbid) a computer maliciously programmed or hacked in some way to get the good judge out of the way for Lindsey Graham or whoever the Repub was he was going to run against, would be unseemly and untidy.
So I wouldn't entirely trust the results of the HRC vs Bernie vote. I think the same machines are still being used in SC now that were used in the Alvin Greene victory, tho I may be wrong. It could be HRC didn't win by as great a margin as the machines indicated, or it could be she won by an even greater margin. In fact, it could even be that Bernie actually won. There's really no way to know when the vote is counted on these machines and the vote is never audited and when, even in cases where a problem is as obvious as the nose on your face, nothing is ever done to make sure the vote is accurately counted.