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53. looking for an simple answer from a Hillary supporter, any good answer.

Fri Mar 4, 2016, 10:39 PM

Mar 2016

Before these types of post will be blocked... I rarely post, but I need some help. I find Senator Sanders the only candidate that makes sense for the future. Now in my 60's I have been able to view my history with the long view. I voted for McGovern in 72' and before I finished the vote, it was announced That Nixon won in a landslide. This was when Watergate was happening! I remember the Nixon/ Kissinger team, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Chile, Argentina and all the other human disasters schemed by these criminals. Evil.

Now I see Libya and Honduras, and I see fingerprints all over these. They aren't just Hillary Clinton's.
Will President Clinton's foreign policy be any different then Nixon"s?

Any Clinton supporter with a once of moral courage needs to comment on these facts...take time to let this seep into your core.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/hillary-clinton-kissinger-vacation-dominican-republic-de-la-renta
https://theintercept.com/2016/02/12/henry-kissingers-war-crimes-are-central-to-the-divide-between-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/dec/06/argentina.usa
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-ritter/hillary-clinton-foreign-policy-record_b_9221284.html

I cannot and will not vote for Hillary Clinton.

p.s. I remember areas of Buffalo NY devastated by NAFTA - The Catholic church, at the time, called it immoral.

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Daily Kos Asks Clinton And Sanders Supporters For Unity [View all] onehandle Mar 2016 OP

fuggitaboutit. grasswire Mar 2016 #1

Bookmarked. nt onehandle Mar 2016 #2

I still find your sig line very offensive. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #4

I find nothing offensive about your sig line onehandle Loki Mar 2016 #14

Why should I support someone who is only running Loki Mar 2016 #19

Why should you support Bernie? JDPriestly Mar 2016 #72

"Vote for MY candidate or I'll stamp my foot and walk away" is gentle? brooklynite Mar 2016 #75

I will vote for all other Democrats on my ballot but not for Hillary. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #91

That makes you not a democrat. rockfordfile Mar 2016 #193

+1000 BuddhaGirl Mar 2016 #195

I have been a Democrat since 1952. Wore my Adlai pin to school in 1956. Voted and JDPriestly Mar 2016 #196

Actually, it brings you back to the real platform OF Democrats ... MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #210

Yeah no. You've gotten too swept up in watching the black dot on the Democratic page. ancianita Mar 2016 #208

Um, no. truebluegreen Mar 2016 #227

It has seemed that way since my parents said it. ancianita Mar 2016 #235

Our parents weren't staring down the barrel truebluegreen Mar 2016 #237

K&R Diremoon Mar 2016 #77

very well stated! peacebird Mar 2016 #129

Get a clue. gcomeau Mar 2016 #74

Si se puede! JackRiddler Mar 2016 #88

Exactly TrueDemVA Mar 2016 #124

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #132

Concur - GREATLY laserhaas Mar 2016 #187

While having Sanders run as a Democratic-Socialist would give Clinton an easy explanation for losing That Guy 888 Mar 2016 #79

Are you describing Madam Third Way? JackRiddler Mar 2016 #86

Why should I support someone who is only running as a Democrat for convenience? Loudestlib Mar 2016 #92

He's never called himself a Democrat Loki Mar 2016 #149

DUzy! truebluegreen Mar 2016 #228

"convenience"? ... Jopin Klobe Mar 2016 #111

Without it he would still be sitting in Vermont, Loki Mar 2016 #174

And that's the gist Cavallo Mar 2016 #116

Democratic leadership trashed the party when they turned republican-lite. CrispyQ Mar 2016 #165

They might have left us, but we ain't fuckin' goin' anywhere. FDR's will win, slowly but surely. ancianita Mar 2016 #209

+ 1001 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #33

agreed. he's in and so am i. roguevalley Mar 2016 #48

Me too MissDeeds Mar 2016 #76

+1 platitudipus Mar 2016 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author Loudestlib Mar 2016 #90

there's a parent company? grasswire Mar 2016 #95

If the "eventual nominee" becomes clear, I hope we will follow suit. MADem Mar 2016 #3

Tired isn't my word for it MADem Loki Mar 2016 #16

Yep. It'll be interesting to see how it flows. nt MADem Mar 2016 #18

Your memory is flawed. MisterFred Mar 2016 #108

She supported and campaigned for President Obama Loki Mar 2016 #148

Nice job ending with the personal insult. MisterFred Mar 2016 #185

tired from what? Typing? Reading? Not exactly a strenuous workout. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #127

We will also see who can win with grace, won't we? truebluegreen Mar 2016 #229

If you are tired of it can't you go do something else? Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #126

Markos noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #5

Your outrage probably meant you missed this line... brooklynite Mar 2016 #8

My Outrage? noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #15

Projection is an art form. Blue State Bandit Mar 2016 #30

Eh, if that's art this practitioner is rather on the kitsch side. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #87

Yeah that one line makes up for all of the anti Bernie shit 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #39

No, brooklynite is quite correct. Duval Mar 2016 #63

If they don't vote you probably shouldn't bother courting them for the GE. n/t Loudestlib Mar 2016 #94

He was for Hillary from the start. merrily Mar 2016 #10

So, it's his board. Loki Mar 2016 #24

Congrats. You win the total non sequitur award. Straw man trophy, too. merrily Mar 2016 #28

Whatever that means. Loki Mar 2016 #41

Your lack of curiosity is as remarkable as your eagerness to admit you don't know. merrily Mar 2016 #43

Well aren't we psychic! Loki Mar 2016 #60

Just reading your posts and taking you at your word. But, kudos on another non sequitur. merrily Mar 2016 #68

SMDH... chervilant Mar 2016 #81

Shake some more sweetie, Loki Mar 2016 #166

You might want to reread this quote from him as it suggests otherwise. LonePirate Mar 2016 #42

Thanks, but I don't think that is as clear a statement as you seem to think it is. merrily Mar 2016 #45

He thinks HRC will be the nominee and he's obviously disappointed by that. Seems pretty clear to me. LonePirate Mar 2016 #47

Making it personal about me is what you do, but it doesn't make your argument stronger. Just the merrily Mar 2016 #50

merrily, you are a wealth of information. I honestly didn't know this Duval Mar 2016 #64

no problem; my pleasure. merrily Mar 2016 #66

OK. Thanks. Duval Mar 2016 #70

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #133

Yes... A pattern begins to emerge, eh? Raster Mar 2016 #137

"Well, all I know is what I read in the papers." Will Rogers (traditional Democrat) merrily Mar 2016 #156

And getting her in the White House Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #104

You are incorrect. MisterFred Mar 2016 #109

How exactly does that quote show that? LonePirate Mar 2016 #110

?? MisterFred Mar 2016 #186

so he thinks we should settle for what we get and somehow magically build more libs down the road, roguevalley Mar 2016 #114

Not many others will settle either. platitudipus Mar 2016 #117

Me neither. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #122

Is there a paycheck in there? MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #211

The Unity Pony Ellen Forradalom Mar 2016 #6

Where's the New Democrat half? merrily Mar 2016 #11

For the win.....EOM catnhatnh Mar 2016 #21

^^Thread winner!. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #29

Love it! dflprincess Mar 2016 #38

booyah desmiller Mar 2016 #52

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #134

Laughing is a good thing. Laughing on your birthday... priceless. Many happy returns of the day. merrily Mar 2016 #158

WTH? I can't stop watching that! (Even though it's kind of disturbing.) NurseJackie Mar 2016 #175

Isn't it though? Super creepy Ellen Forradalom Mar 2016 #181

Follow the money... Skwmom Mar 2016 #7

Thank you brentspeak Mar 2016 #71

Screw that! RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #9

Like I said upthread, Loki Mar 2016 #25

What you all do without the Democrats? nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #31

It's been Democratic Underground for a very long time. Loki Mar 2016 #35

Without him, you don't have a party anymore. Remember that. His crowds are swelling, silvershadow Mar 2016 #37

Ok, if you say so, it must be true. Loki Mar 2016 #40

Thread win! NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #80

I disagree, Loki. He has always voted with Dems before he became one. Duval Mar 2016 #69

What was he going to do Duval, vote with the Republicans? Loki Mar 2016 #144

Sure he would have voted with Republicans just like Hillary pinebox Mar 2016 #160

Interesting that Kos is supporting Hillary isn't it? Loki Mar 2016 #162

Interesting that they are considering she loses in a GE matchup pinebox Mar 2016 #163

Dream on, Loki Mar 2016 #168

Try harder pinebox Mar 2016 #169

LOL! Loki Mar 2016 #172

Yup! When you got nada just "LOL" pinebox Mar 2016 #173

have fun trying to win a ge without bernie supporters restorefreedom Mar 2016 #182

I won't vote for a republican in sheeps clothing. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #200

This message was self-deleted by its author RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #44

Wow aren't you a divisive little thing? jillan Mar 2016 #46

Not any more than you Loki Mar 2016 #62

LOL! DailyKos is a site I might hit once a week, if that. Won't miss it at all. peacebird Mar 2016 #131

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #135

The format was a pain, agree peacebird Mar 2016 #136

Guess you'll have quite a few places you won't be visiting Loki Mar 2016 #142

That seems like a good match for you, based on your candidate choice peacebird Mar 2016 #143

Touchy aren't we? Loki Mar 2016 #145

Apparently you are peacebird Mar 2016 #147

Apparently you don't read much either. Loki Mar 2016 #151

We have one, called DU. And you are here. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #201

100%! dana_b Mar 2016 #236

Daily Kos? What makes Markos think he has the right to tell people what to do? jillan Mar 2016 #12

It's a faux thing anyway, designed to pretend Clinton can win this if we just coalesce. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #32

I say - 'bye Kos. 840high Mar 2016 #85

Showtime, All the Way- appalachiablue Mar 2016 #13

Somehow the Rethugs always manage to run a douchebag... roamer65 Mar 2016 #17

If Party Discord Seats a Republican President houston16revival Mar 2016 #20

Sounds like the Third Way better get to scurrying back to their roots, then...have you seen the silvershadow Mar 2016 #36

I'm not here to debate you or take sides houston16revival Mar 2016 #54

Oh, trust me, hun...you *aren't debating me. ;) Everyone give houston16revival a silvershadow Mar 2016 #56

Always the same rhetoric every election cycle pinebox Mar 2016 #161

Hillary has... blah blah blah. Won't vote for her. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #202

We as democrats can't hold the presidency in perpetuity. That's an impossibility. PoliticalMalcontent Mar 2016 #99

Unless we RADICALLY alter our energy policy Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #105

Valid points all houston16revival Mar 2016 #157

"We can't abrubtly switch off carbon" Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #192

Yes! This is our last chance, I'm afraid. I won't see another Bernie in my lifetime. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #203

Markos is a clown Geronimoe Mar 2016 #22

Indicted for what? Loki Mar 2016 #26

Last I heard they gave immunity to her email server admin. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #205

Well, try reading this for starters. Loki Mar 2016 #212

Funny, I have no respect for Colin Powell since he helped lie us to war. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #213

Whatever Dump Loki Mar 2016 #214

You should read more. He knew it was a lie. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #215

You really believe that shit? Loki Mar 2016 #216

He strongly suspected things were not as they were told to him Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #219

Maybe if you'd been on this board back then Loki Mar 2016 #217

Hey, pal, I think I know more about the recent past than you do. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #218

Read what Larry Wilkerson has to say Dump. Loki Mar 2016 #223

I read everything. My opinions are well informed. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #232

I very much doubt she will be indicted Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #106

That's one of my options too. I'm sick of the lesser of two evils crap. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #204

Daily Kos, et al can kiss my ass... eom Purveyor Mar 2016 #23

Daily who? monicaangela Mar 2016 #27

Duplicate post. Bubzer Mar 2016 #34

Clearly not LBN, this is 100 percent GD : Primary JackRiddler Mar 2016 #49

Biggest liberal blog asks for unity amongst liberals and it isn't news at a liberal forum? onehandle Mar 2016 #57

"Daily Kos announces censorship policy starting March 15." JackRiddler Mar 2016 #84

It's a duplicate post of existing news. Per the SOP, duplicates are not permited. Bubzer Mar 2016 #113

Wrong. Kos asks everybody to support Hill. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #51

looking for an simple answer from a Hillary supporter, any good answer. Mark 750 Mar 2016 #53

Keep your eyes on the prize houston16revival Mar 2016 #55

You should post more often. This is wiser and better informed than 90 leveymg Mar 2016 #58

Interesting how coming from the same time Loki Mar 2016 #65

Non answer Mark 750 Mar 2016 #102

You pompous ....... Loki Mar 2016 #150

You seem to be obsessed with a certain rodent, but Mark 750 Mar 2016 #167

I'm not your brother, Loki Mar 2016 #170

The Hillary supporters have a moral blindspot when it comes to her. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #159

thank you for your wise and informative post. grasswire Mar 2016 #96

LBN? Vote2016 Mar 2016 #61

What a joke! nt ladjf Mar 2016 #67

Markos is a tool of the establishment. Maedhros Mar 2016 #73

Hold my nose Diremoon Mar 2016 #78

History proves you wrong Geronimoe Mar 2016 #93

Have Moulitsas ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #82

Where will they go? What will they do? NurseJackie Mar 2016 #153

Screw you, Daily Kos. DrBulldog Mar 2016 #83

*whispers* didn't she get a call from the guy who wrested the cocaine trade from the Haitians MisterP Mar 2016 #89

Markos Moulitsas is not a liberal Dem Socialist 2016 Mar 2016 #97

Outstanding comment!!! Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #121

hmm... chervilant Mar 2016 #98

After allowing months of the same divisive bullshit to rage unchecked Arazi Mar 2016 #100

Hillary never voted for my best interest, why should I vote for hers? Perogie Mar 2016 #101

Commandant Markos runs a boring website posting a thousand iterations of the same story: republicans Carlo Marx Mar 2016 #103

Hardly. MisterFred Mar 2016 #107

Clinton supporters don't WANT Sanders supporters..... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #112

Two Things We Know videohead5 Mar 2016 #115

She will also defend voting rights BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #128

No, unfortunately WE DON'T KNOW THAT. Raster Mar 2016 #140

Her husband did videohead5 Mar 2016 #179

You don't care, huh? Raster Mar 2016 #180

So videohead5 Mar 2016 #183

Tell you what... Google is your friend... Raster Mar 2016 #184

You don't care where she gets her money from. We already knew that. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #199

Thats not what I was saying videohead5 Mar 2016 #206

That transaction would not be made public. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #207

You think they annouce those things in the Times? truebluegreen Mar 2016 #231

Clinton people don't want to hear the truth about Hillary. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #198

Bringing Daily Kos members to heel Geronimoe Mar 2016 #118

Try this out, literally David L Mar 2016 #119

I still have my integrity, I never posted at Kos. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #120

That was an incredibly brave, principled action on the part of the Kerry blog and Kerry himself karynnj Mar 2016 #177

Cold day in hell since Hillary has run such a negative and dirty tricks campaign emsimon33 Mar 2016 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Mar 2016 #125

I Don't know about "The 'Not Hillary' Party", but we Berners will continue until the convention! peacebird Mar 2016 #130

I love the way you encourage unity - "Not Hillary Party" is going down. Vinca Mar 2016 #138

We could use some of that around here pandr32 Mar 2016 #139

This is the kind of trash that keeps me fighting for Bernie. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #220

More like "Bernin" out" but hey, each to their own. pandr32 Mar 2016 #222

We will see. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #230

How very democratic of Daily Kos Red Oak Mar 2016 #141

It's this sort of establishment arrogance Pryderi Mar 2016 #146

Shrug. I don't give hits to Hillary-centric sites like that anyway, djean111 Mar 2016 #152

Typical Authoritarian bullshit from DLC types. NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #154

Love, not hate! LannyDeVaney Mar 2016 #155

Because nothing brings smart intellegent people together like a candidate who scolds us whereisjustice Mar 2016 #164

Campers on DU call for Purges! Warren Stupidity Mar 2016 #171

Whichever candidate wins will have gotten the most Democratic support Democat Mar 2016 #176

Bombers, carriers and taxpayers money, oh my! Unify behind this… Mark 750 Mar 2016 #178

Two Clintons. 41 Years. $3 Billion. Inside The Clinton Donor Network (Washington Post 11-19-15) bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #188

Let the people fucking vote already!!!! alarimer Mar 2016 #189

Jury results. SoapBox Mar 2016 #190

... In_The_Wind Mar 2016 #191

+10000000 Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #221

fat chance of that on DU Skittles Mar 2016 #194

Well if you think about.......... nolabels Mar 2016 #225

it's not just "people coming here" Skittles Mar 2016 #226

Yea i guess i might have seen few also nolabels Mar 2016 #234

Markos “Clinton 3rd way moderate” Moulitsas Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #197

I'm all for Unity. Not at the cost of Honesty and Integrity. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #224

I'm all for unity LyndaG Mar 2016 #233