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bhikkhu

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89. When I was younger I would have agreed with you

Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:47 AM

Mar 2016

...but at some point it just gets to be a very very long wait, and I suppose, having watched Reagan beat Carter, and plenty of other disillusionments, I don't have as much confidence in the likelihood of a "turn to the left" from the party, which would require a turn to the left of the country. I'll certainly vote for it whenever given the opportunity, but for the most part the Democratic party platform represents my position on the issues well.

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Oregon Governor Kate Brown Endorses Hillary Clinton for President [View all] Cryptoad Mar 2016 OP

Is she popular in Oregon? LisaM Mar 2016 #1

Yes, and she's the first openly LGBT governor in history. pnwmom Mar 2016 #8

That's on her then.. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #82

She's not going to be duped by the person who wrote that chart. pnwmom Mar 2016 #92

She got the job after the elected Governor had to resign over a scandal involving his fiancee. jalan48 Mar 2016 #10

Oddly enough, no one can figure out what the scandal was supposed to be ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #57

Before then she had been elected Secretary of State and before then pnwmom Mar 2016 #93

She is...but this will create backlash. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #22

me too. this won't help Hillary here, and will just hurt Brown next election. nt Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #24

Backlash I doubt it quiller4 Mar 2016 #46

We'll see! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #48

Nope Pastiche423 Mar 2016 #69

this is strike 3 for kate hopemountain Mar 2016 #73

I doubt it too, though I suppose it depends on who else is running bhikkhu Mar 2016 #59

"...than what I'd expect from an Oregon Democrat." Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #86

When I was younger I would have agreed with you bhikkhu Mar 2016 #89

Oh, I don't actually expect the party to move leftwards. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #90

You bet Old Codger Mar 2016 #55

you're going to vote against a progressive governor CreekDog Mar 2016 #75

She has progressive opposition in the primary. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #99

why is he the better candidate? CreekDog Mar 2016 #119

If I see two otherwise equally suitable gubernatorial candidates... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #121

This is how you know that it's all about Bernie, not the progressive movement Yavin4 Mar 2016 #100

In my case, that's bullshit. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #122

Ditto ... from another Oregonian. KPN Mar 2016 #98

Edited because I thought you meant Hillary. Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #51

Well, I like her, and have joined her campaign for re-election. classof56 Mar 2016 #106

A progressive agenda?? No way. It's establishment looking out for each other. nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #2

Shows how little you know. She is the first openly LGBT governor in history. n/t pnwmom Mar 2016 #6

and she chooses to back the conservative candidate. The candidate that had to be dragged kicking rhett o rick Mar 2016 #11

If always is defined as since 2009 dsc Mar 2016 #13

Good one. Laser102 Mar 2016 #38

32 Years Before Marriage Equality, Bernie Sanders Fought For Gay Rights zalinda Mar 2016 #60

Give me a break. "while the rest of us were always in favor." pnwmom Mar 2016 #14

You are trying to change history. Sanders supported marriage equality even if he rhett o rick Mar 2016 #117

here's you blaming the most liberal Supreme Court Justice for the 2000 Bush v. Gore decision CreekDog Mar 2016 #78

"your judgement is pretty bad at times". That pretty well sums up the behavior I see here. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #91

For example, "The candidate that had to be dragged kicking and screaming..." LanternWaste Mar 2016 #111

None are examples of ad hominem attacks. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #115

More smears. Hillary was one of the most liberal senators and congress redstateblues Mar 2016 #101

She isn't liberal in the least. Her actions to lie to the Senate stating that Hussein rhett o rick Mar 2016 #116

And that makes her progressive? Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #23

Hillary and Bernie agreed on 93% of their votes in the Senate, pnwmom Mar 2016 #25

Right...because Senate votes are the only true measure. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #32

Blah, blah, blah. n/t pnwmom Mar 2016 #39

Ah, the usual Clinton supporter depth and sophistication of argument! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #41

They always avoid issues. n/t Scruffy1 Mar 2016 #67

Disingenuous lying with facts. Typical triangulating DLC dick move. Okey dokey. FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #44

"Lying with facts." pnwmom Mar 2016 #52

They are as far apart as night and day. Make up your mind. You continually disparage rhett o rick Mar 2016 #118

I just don't think he's as well qualified pnwmom Mar 2016 #120

just like being a woman doesn't get you a pass,neither does being gay. Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #26

If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong. Laser102 Mar 2016 #40

wow. ok. nt Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #43

Boy, I bet you're reeling after THAT devastating comeback! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #50

She supports the Big Green fraud of Biomass n/t maggies farm Mar 2016 #29

If I recall, she was put in office through a resignation. Gregorian Mar 2016 #7

She is very representative. She was the majority leader in the Oregon Senate pnwmom Mar 2016 #12

that's your narrative, not facts CreekDog Mar 2016 #76

Honk Honk iandhr Mar 2016 #3

Yup. Get on board the Bernie Bus or get out of the way! Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #4

oooo a threat? ronnykmarshall Mar 2016 #20

How Timely! N.Y. to Paris Mar 2016 #5

and right on time she gets attacked by the Bernie peeps ronnykmarshall Mar 2016 #9

Yeah, she is horrible. BERNIE IS GREAT... This is getting fucking boring here on DU... winstars Mar 2016 #15

I am so sick of this shit from them ronnykmarshall Mar 2016 #18

One way or the other, it will be over soon and then we can all get behind the nominee, right???? winstars Mar 2016 #21

You go right ahead. OwlinAZ Mar 2016 #28

I'll second that JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #30

and the Hillary people arent? please give me a break. litlbilly Mar 2016 #42

Ahhh, in a word... no... But that is only my opinion... YMMV winstars Mar 2016 #47

Because we are fighting against the corrupt culture of big money in politics that you've decided rhett o rick Mar 2016 #27

No high-profile politician can afford to cross the Clintons radiclib Mar 2016 #16

Sound like some right wing bullshit. ronnykmarshall Mar 2016 #19

The older folk around here who know OwlinAZ Mar 2016 #31

I'm 55 honey ... ronnykmarshall Mar 2016 #36

And I've got you by another eight years... JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #56

what rock do you live under? Jesus people. litlbilly Mar 2016 #45

The governor could have held back her endorsement JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #34

Ha! :-D NurseJackie Mar 2016 #83

A very very smart woman Cryptoad Mar 2016 #17

Kate Brown is a awesome governor OutNow Mar 2016 #33

I aint blasting ur gov Cryptoad Mar 2016 #35

i can blast her for this decision, she's my governor too! Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #49

She's my governor too. I disagree with her wholeheartedly on this and she's lost my vote. jhart3333 Mar 2016 #62

I have no problem blasting her for this. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #64

She already knows what I think Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #77

Congrats to Clinton... blackspade Mar 2016 #37

Sigh...what a disappointment. SoapBox Mar 2016 #53

What a disgusting sour grapes post. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #70

How, pray tell, does her LGBT status prevent her from being establishment? Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #94

Tone deaf garbage like your post is not helping your candidate. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #96

Your complete failure to address the question duly noted. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #97

I've liked Kate Brown since she was a freshman legislator back in the 90s. Maedhros Mar 2016 #54

She lost me with this. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #63

Disappointment seems to be what Oregon Democrats are peddling these days. Maedhros Mar 2016 #104

I'm so very disappointed with Ron's stance on that. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #105

I think Merkley has done well, though. Maedhros Mar 2016 #109

Kate Brown Helping Trump Take White House scottie55 Mar 2016 #58

Awesome! nt DesertRat Mar 2016 #61

One term Puppyjive Mar 2016 #65

mmm, i really doubt that 0rganism Mar 2016 #71

Late endorsements like this don't help much. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #66

Wow. That's a great endorsement! SunSeeker Mar 2016 #68

My opinion SusanLarson Mar 2016 #72

Kate Brown or Susan Sarandon, hmmm greymouse Mar 2016 #74

Awesome!! DCBob Mar 2016 #79

Wow, what a crock! She must have had to have a bottle of wine or two to workup to that. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #80

Wow! This is fantastic! NurseJackie Mar 2016 #81

An excellent endorsement! pandr32 Mar 2016 #84

Has Bern gotten a Gov endorsement yet? Cryptoad Mar 2016 #85

Not that I have heard! pandr32 Mar 2016 #87

hummmm,,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2016 #88

Not paying attention, are you? Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #95

It may not be me who is not paying attention,,, Cryptoad Mar 2016 #107

Your quote: "Has Bern gotten a Gov endorsement yet?" Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #108

Gov = Governor..... geeez Cryptoad Mar 2016 #110

Really? Okay, but that was hardly obvious. Why not write it out? Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #112

Guess i wasnt paying attention, sorry Cryptoad Mar 2016 #113

No worries. Appreciate the clarification! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #114

... Faux pas Mar 2016 #102

The absolutist nature of so many responses here Blue_Adept Mar 2016 #103

Why is this in LBN? Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #123