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35. Let's face it

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:48 AM

Apr 2016

Our laughable "representation" is no more than a coat of paint that makes a turd look like something other than what it really is. The stink and the uselessness are still offensive, but the paint - the color of which, we get the whoopteedoo honor of choosing - still manages to fool the voting masses into thinking the turd might be something beneficial.
The actual turd - the fecal material that makes it what it is - is made up of corporate interests and the lobbyists that they hire to support the coat of paint we've chosen. And believe me - keeping that thin veneer of paint happy and outwardly attractive is important to the turd. In fact, if the turd senses that some voting district has applied some transparent paint, all the stops are pulled out to see that it's replaced an opaque hue. Crap forbid that the voters ever conclude that their "representatives" (the paint) aren't ALL OVER the issues they chose them to deal with.

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Poll worker testifies on AZvoting problems: �Every single time it happened-it was a Democratic voter [View all] kadaholo Apr 2016 OP

In 2009, Democrats in DC had an opportunity to protect our elections and voting rights. Scuba Apr 2016 #1

The key phrase was "every time it happened it was to a democratic voter". brush Apr 2016 #4

I'm curious as to why you felt it appropriate to post this reply. Scuba Apr 2016 #7

The recurring meme after the AZ primary was that the Clinton campaign was . . . brush Apr 2016 #8

I recall it, but fail to see how it's germaine to my post. Does it somehow excuse the 2009 Dems? Scuba Apr 2016 #11

The 2009 Dems? brush Apr 2016 #12

The ones who had the supermajority to prevent vote-rigging? Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #25

Dems didn't have a super-majority, that's a myth furthered by GOP. blm Apr 2016 #39

Please remind me what voting/election legislation they pushed to the limits but lost in a squeeker. Scuba Apr 2016 #43

I was addressing the myth of a super-majority, Scuba. blm Apr 2016 #45

And I was addressing the excuse of the supermajority ... Scuba Apr 2016 #46

I was correcting the myth spread by GOP that the poster repeated. blm Apr 2016 #47

It's not a GOP myth. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #52

YES - it IS a GOP myth. Why further it when the FACTS prove you wrong? blm Apr 2016 #54

The GOP isn't "telling the truth" - but neither are the corporation-coddling Democrats. eom Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #55

Prove YOUR belief that Dems had a working supermajority the first 2 years, blm Apr 2016 #57

I never said two years. You are now twisting my words / putting words in my mouth. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #59

GOP claims it and YOU said that the supermajority was NOT a GOP myth. blm Apr 2016 #61

To the point. Wellstone ruled Apr 2016 #79

That's one of my most important issues. GOTV in every election is crucial, and DNC blm Apr 2016 #85

When is the last time a politician, other than Bernie talked about the poor? Autumn Apr 2016 #122

Come on... this constant excusing is pathetic. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #51

When are FACTS about GOP's myth of a supermajority to be ignored, Ms Karl? blm Apr 2016 #56

I never said we had it for two years. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #58

You claimed the supermajority Dems had was NOT a GOP myth. blm Apr 2016 #60

Maybe because that is not a myth. bvar22 Apr 2016 #80

WORKING DAYS. There was no 4mths of SM. You're also including days spent on ACA and stimulus, blm Apr 2016 #81

Still, it proves that your claim of NEVER having a Super Majority bvar22 Apr 2016 #90

The days had weren't even continuous - and the myth referred to was the GOP's myth blm Apr 2016 #94

NOW, you are changing your story. bvar22 Apr 2016 #95

get over it, bvar�Even Obama had to address the 'myth' GOP was spreading blm Apr 2016 #97

It would be more honorable for you to simpley admit your mistake. bvar22 Apr 2016 #103

"as people have been led to believe" What GOP myth have people been led to believe? blm Apr 2016 #105

You can't argue with documented HISTORY. bvar22 Apr 2016 #135

What's the GOP version I referred to that you won't address? blm Apr 2016 #136

What has happened to me? bvar22 Apr 2016 #137

You didn't 'correct' me, you chose to pass over the premise blm Apr 2016 #138

didn't need a super majority until the GOP wanted it PatrynXX Apr 2016 #101

Not required till this new breed of Obstructionist GOPs who vowed on Day1 that blm Apr 2016 #102

BIG claim you are making there - Can you PROVE the supermajority you claim? blm Apr 2016 #62

The Democrats had 59 voting members ... aggiesal Apr 2016 #74

Sanders was included in the Dem caucus number. From Rachel: blm Apr 2016 #75

Thanks for the details n/t aggiesal Apr 2016 #88

We dems need to stop repeating that repug myth that there was a dem super majority brush Apr 2016 #78

We dems need to stop repeating the myth that it takes a supermajority to push legislation. Scuba Apr 2016 #93

But you have to know that it takes a supermajority to overcome a filibuster . . . brush Apr 2016 #106

Harry Reid had plenty of opportunities to change that and he DIDN'T! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #110

Never got a whiff. Scuba Apr 2016 #113

Please remind me what voting/election legislation they pushed to the limits but got filibustered. Scuba Apr 2016 #112

I dont remember much that the Dems filibustered. only the gopee. Harry didnt fix the filibuster Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #118

that would be the Conservadems who refused to work with Obama PatrynXX Apr 2016 #100

clarifications are ok.. posts 15 went exactly in the direction that we were all trying to avoid Sheepshank Apr 2016 #30

I recall that Bernie supporters were pointing out that Hillary Supporters should be alarmed PatrynXX Apr 2016 #99

No, we don't remember that. OwlinAZ Apr 2016 #139

Well, with just 85 posts I don't think you were around then. brush Apr 2016 #140

In 2009 there were other pressing issues. One was preventing a global financial meltdown alfredo Apr 2016 #14

That's kind of the problem Bradical79 Apr 2016 #36

At that time the voting rights act was in full force. alfredo Apr 2016 #83

that is an important detail�.. blm Apr 2016 #107

It really hurts when facing defeat. We need to be respectful. alfredo Apr 2016 #119

Uh�alfredo, I'm a Sanders voter. Some of us won't go along with the blm Apr 2016 #125

Democrats are strong because they are not rigid ideologues. alfredo Apr 2016 #129

People are capable of multitasking. jeff47 Apr 2016 #37

He was also pushing healthcare. alfredo Apr 2016 #84

And anyone not under a rock knew there were voting issues as late as 2000. jeff47 Apr 2016 #131

I'm sure he was aware. He was also contending with a goldbricking congress alfredo Apr 2016 #132

Thanks, Scuba... Thespian2 Apr 2016 #33

Reading comprehension abelenkpe Apr 2016 #9

Guess you weren't around after the AZ vote. Sanders supporters were screaming . . . brush Apr 2016 #13

But that is not the topic of this OP. pangaia Apr 2016 #22

It's really pathetic abelenkpe Apr 2016 #34

Yeah, yeah, like that post was hard to understand brush Apr 2016 #68

Awwwww, you need reading comprehension skills too abelenkpe Apr 2016 #82

So you don't like it when someone proves your foolish post wrong, huh? brush Apr 2016 #108

Of course they were wrong. snort Apr 2016 #41

Yeah, we're all a bunch of fucking idiots. frylock Apr 2016 #48

Many of us weren't fooled. We recognized the AZ primary was a repug rehearsal . . . brush Apr 2016 #71

So you're stalking me with your one-trick-pony foolishness? brush Apr 2016 #115

did turnout favor Sanders? reddread Apr 2016 #20

Poll stations in minority neighborhoods were the ones closed so you tell me. brush Apr 2016 #114

Brooklyn hasnt fully gentrified yet? reddread Apr 2016 #117

Make sense please. We were talking about the AZ primary, not Brooklyn. brush Apr 2016 #120

whoops reddread Apr 2016 #121

Deal! brush Apr 2016 #124

I agree LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #89

Whether the cheated voters were Hillary or Sanders voters remains JDPriestly Apr 2016 #96

so where did the biased part come in from? PatrynXX Apr 2016 #98

The juries seem to vote to hide posts that criticize Sanders but leave the anti-Hillary ones up brush Apr 2016 #111

There is nothing to wonder about, it is rigged and they like it that way! Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #5

Bingo scottie55 Apr 2016 #23

They could have also SAVED this country BILLIONS by allowing our govt to negotiate drug prices. Skwmom Apr 2016 #18

Medicare Part D Is What Made Me So Sick Of Republicans scottie55 Apr 2016 #24

Let's face it Plucketeer Apr 2016 #35

Your so right, every time the Democrats have the power and votes in the rladdi Apr 2016 #19

In the last 8 years the Dems have had a majority for 8 weeks. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #28

Wrong. They had a majority in both the House and Senate from 2009 to 2011. Scuba Apr 2016 #44

The poster was thinking supermajority. Dems did have a majority for 2 years. blm Apr 2016 #64

Apparently the Dems in DC work under the credo that they shouldn't try to pass anything ... Scuba Apr 2016 #67

Nope. Like I said, it was timed impeccably by GOP who ate the Dem's lunch blm Apr 2016 #69

They managed to pass THIS in less than a week without a Super Majority: bvar22 Apr 2016 #91

Yeah, but that was important, not like voting rights and honest elections. Scuba Apr 2016 #92

When did Supremes gut Voting Rights Act? blm Apr 2016 #109

Dems did nothing in 2009 vis a vis voting or elections. Bush stole two elections BEFORE ... Scuba Apr 2016 #116

I wouldn't excuse them nor would I EXAGGERATE what happened and ignore details blm Apr 2016 #123

So in your mind, honest elections don't have any "urgency"? Scuba Apr 2016 #126

They won big in 2006 and 2008, there wouldn't be urgency as we saw it. blm Apr 2016 #128

"No senator in 2009-10 session put up election protection bill ..." That's my point, that .... Scuba Apr 2016 #130

Yes, and that includes EVERY Senator, congressman in 2009-10. blm Apr 2016 #134

I was shocked that it was never addressed. It was as if 2000 and 2004 never happened. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #21

The question is did that voter donate to Bernie? LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #2

Bingo. As the Romans said in all investigations: Cui bono. forest444 Apr 2016 #63

And is happening in CT now LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #70

Barring some miracle, Ms. Inevitable will get away with it too. forest444 Apr 2016 #72

The Great Coast-to-Coast Irregularity tour made a stop in Arizona, did it? nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #3

And you STILL leftynyc Apr 2016 #29

a computer glitch? Botany Apr 2016 #6

If you know a system is easily rigged like our voting machines fasttense Apr 2016 #10

In our state the votes are counted at the county clerk office, then at the state capital alfredo Apr 2016 #16

And I suppose it makes leftynyc Apr 2016 #31

Aliens dlwickham Apr 2016 #38

Funny how I can't leftynyc Apr 2016 #42

The RepubliCONS have figured it out long ago and so has Hillary fasttense Apr 2016 #133

Sane Progressive interviewed a man who did the math. Odds were a trillion to one for some anomalies. Gregorian Apr 2016 #15

The point is... FRAUD! Equinox Moon Apr 2016 #17

Fraud indeed: all is justified in corporate law and war. eom Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #27

ELECTION fraud by GOP. Voter fraud is a GOP myth blm Apr 2016 #40

As the DUers say about the Sanders Facebook thing Monday night LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #26

Surprise, Surprise cantbeserious Apr 2016 #32

Makes you wonder how many have legitimately won over all the years nt Rebkeh Apr 2016 #49

K&R nt. Kurovski Apr 2016 #50

Okay, all Democratic voters. Now the next step should be to jwirr Apr 2016 #53

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #65

DUers, let's take off our partisan tin foil caps and examine this objectively Jack Rabbit Apr 2016 #66

Both parties are in on the take d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #73

Something STINKS Blue Owl Apr 2016 #76

Just a warm-up for the GE Zambero Apr 2016 #77

So it was all Dems not just Bernis supporter? alfredo Apr 2016 #86

Don't think we know since they did not end up voting OwlinAZ Apr 2016 #141

This crap is happening in Red states, or states with Rep SoS. alfredo Apr 2016 #142

Arizona has a far right republican gov rockfordfile Apr 2016 #87

This is good to hear. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #104

Kicking nt LiberalElite Apr 2016 #127