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branford

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34. In the real world, matters are not so simple and binary.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:27 PM
Apr 2016

This is reflected in our Constitution and related jurisprudence. For instance, as I already indicated, one of the reasons we have juries is for defendants to be judged by their peers, who may at their discretion disregard the letter of the law if they believe it serves the interests of justice (see, jury nullification).

Similarly, we have a adversarial criminal justice system. When I or any other attorney represent a client, no less in a criminal matter, I'm obligated to zealously defend and advocate their interests and positions alone, not seek some form of "fairness" or "justice." In fact, placing anything about my clients interests in a case would likely constitute malpractice.

I believe you are overreacting to the incident and aftermath. The sky is not falling, there's no risk of anarchy in the streets, and our justice system prevails as well as could be expected by someone run by human hands.

Notably, nothing done with respect to the soldier is contrary to any law or legal doctrine. Prosecutors and similar authorities are normally not obligated to seek punishment if they believe justice would not be served. Under these circumstances, as the comments by most attest, people are generally pleased with this outcome. In fact, rather than a breakdown in law and order in Afghanistan, maybe the fear of harsh vigilante justice will be the very encouragement the government and local authorities need to more objectively and deliberately deal with the problem of sexual assault of children and a culture that largely permits something so abhorrent.

This is the correct decision. iandhr Apr 2016 #1
I agree. I personally know someone who had to negotiate with local Afghan chiefs underpants Apr 2016 #3
I was in Zabul Province, Kabul, and Khandahar... mark67 Apr 2016 #23
That's sound familiar underpants Apr 2016 #24
The other saying is “Why do birds fly in circles over Kandahar? Because they’re covering their ass" EX500rider Apr 2016 #35
Not as SF though... TipTok Apr 2016 #39
I say a lot of people here would have done the same thing to the rapist. WhoWoodaKnew Apr 2016 #2
Straw man Tempest Apr 2016 #26
You totally missed the point. WhoWoodaKnew Apr 2016 #45
Good! MynameisBlarney Apr 2016 #4
Vigilante justice by soldiers is considered a war crime Tempest Apr 2016 #5
It is not a crime in Afghanistan to rape a boy.. that is the core of the issue here. secondwind Apr 2016 #6
So lets all go around town beating up accused pedophiles? Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #7
If not for vigilante justice, there would be no justice christx30 Apr 2016 #9
Cool now US soldiers can murder anyone and get out of it by calling them a pedo. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #10
Maybe this will help you out. I doubt it, but its worth a shot 7962 Apr 2016 #12
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #16
Logical fallacy Tempest Apr 2016 #27
The alternative to doing something about it christx30 Apr 2016 #28
The Afghani was not killed. 7962 Apr 2016 #11
You mean after the trial of course, otherwise its summary execution unless of course I cstanleytech Apr 2016 #20
I know I may well put a bullet through a guy who did that to my son. 7962 Apr 2016 #42
Wow, you really do like to distort things. nt cstanleytech Apr 2016 #43
He should have neutralized him instead Reter Apr 2016 #8
Vigilante Justice!! philosslayer Apr 2016 #13
Good. NuclearDem Apr 2016 #14
I'm sure that child and his mother are grateful that someone cared enough to take action eissa Apr 2016 #15
Its amazing how a few here dont understand what you just said. 7962 Apr 2016 #17
I've been here long enough to see enough DUers defend pedophiles eissa Apr 2016 #18
He didn't step in Tempest Apr 2016 #25
You support turning a blind eye to rapists. n/t christx30 Apr 2016 #29
Sadly, you obviously know nothing of what you speak, 7962 Apr 2016 #40
They live in a patriarchal society ruled by authoritarian men who hold all the power. procon Apr 2016 #38
Very good. 840high Apr 2016 #19
Good. Fuck rapists. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #21
I am happy vigilante justice MyNameGoesHere Apr 2016 #22
If he wasn't in uniform, the vigilantes wouldn't be so keen on applauding lawbreakers. procon Apr 2016 #30
Don't be so sure he'd be in jail in the USA. branford Apr 2016 #31
Then where does it stop? procon Apr 2016 #32
In the real world, matters are not so simple and binary. branford Apr 2016 #34
This was the military board, not a civilian court, procon Apr 2016 #37
A military board has similar discretion to civilian prosecutors. branford Apr 2016 #46
Doubtful a US jury would vote to convict a similar action here. 7962 Apr 2016 #41
De oppresso liber mahina Apr 2016 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #36
"I don't feel bad for the victim if you can call him that." If he actually did what cstanleytech Apr 2016 #44
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