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(58,724 posts) Sun May 8, 2016, 07:22 AM May 2016

Pakistani activist murdered after praising London for electing first Muslim mayor Sadiq Khan [View all]

Source: Independent (UK)

A Pakistani activist has been murdered by gunmen hours after hailing Londoners for electing Sadiq Khan as the new mayor of the city.

Khurram Zaki, a former journalist and activist, was shot and killed by gunmen riding motorcycles in the southern port city of Karachi, according to Pakistani police officer Muqaddas Haider.

The 40-year-old edited the blog Let Us Build Pakistan (LUBP) which claimed to “spread liberal religious views and condemned extremism in all forms”.

Mr Haider told Associated Press four gunmen on two motorcycles attacked activist Mr Zaki late Saturday at a roadside restaurant, where he was dining with a friend. The friend was wounded, as was a bystander. Police said Sunday it is not immediately clear who was behind the attack.

Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/gunmen-kill-pakistani-activist-hours-after-he-praised-london-for-electing-first-muslim-mayor-a7018926.html

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Pakistani activist murdered after praising London for electing first Muslim mayor Sadiq Khan [View all] oberliner May 2016 OP

horrible. i was about to post a link to a similar article in the Times of India MariaThinks May 2016 #1

Progressives should be leading the fight against Islamic Extremism oberliner May 2016 #2

ironically and tragically, islam clearly kills the progressives and liberals when they get into the MariaThinks May 2016 #3

There is a line between critique of religous extremism and bigotry. Redwoods Red May 2016 #5

i'm not a bigot. i've studied world religions. Does anyone want to answer the following questions? MariaThinks May 2016 #6

still no answer to actual questions. I could bet that there won't be because the written truth is MariaThinks May 2016 #9

This is the answer to all of the those questions: rug May 2016 #17

independent surveys of muslims in counties that allows surveys to be conducted MariaThinks May 2016 #38

Do post them. rug May 2016 #44

here's a link MariaThinks May 2016 #45

Do you have the link to the Pew survey itself? rug May 2016 #47

It's right here leftynyc May 2016 #59

No reason to not include it then in the original claim. rug May 2016 #60

You don't find the crazy high leftynyc May 2016 #89

its so difficult to type in 'pew research muslims' into google. what a find. MariaThinks May 2016 #62

Yes, you should do it before making claims. rug May 2016 #82

support for sharia laws MariaThinks May 2016 #46

You do realize Sharia law is not simply beheadings, don't you? rug May 2016 #48

Could you talk to us about the good parts of Sharia law? snooper2 May 2016 #51

I don't know what "us" you're trying to blend into but I'll give you something to read. rug May 2016 #54

you're the one with bias. 'scholars believe' may be enough for you to be content MariaThinks May 2016 #65

My bias is against bigots. Any bigot. rug May 2016 #67

look in the mirror. you apparently accept beheadings in sharia law MariaThinks May 2016 #72

Is this how you discuss issues? rug May 2016 #74

Okay - here's a question MariaThinks May 2016 #76

Of course I do. Along with the the many others who are being attacked, and not just by religion. rug May 2016 #77

i don't condone military actions. But what is a muslim country? MariaThinks May 2016 #79

Then what do you propose to do about it. rug May 2016 #80

the penalities for human rights abuses should be the same whether we are MariaThinks May 2016 #81

How do you propose to deal with them? rug May 2016 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author MariaThinks May 2016 #78

but you realize it includes beheadings and stoning. MariaThinks May 2016 #63

Sure it does. But it;s not a monolith in theory or practice. rug May 2016 #64

you are right, i cannot accept beheadings and stonings MariaThinks May 2016 #66

Oh get off your high horse. rug May 2016 #71

look in the mirror. anyone who critisizes the barbaric practices in islam is labelled a bigot by you MariaThinks May 2016 #73

No, anyone who lumps a billion people together, stupidly, isI label a bigot. rug May 2016 #75

You're wasting your time mate. Bad Dog May 2016 #101

She's lost the plot. rug May 2016 #103

Agreed Bad Dog May 2016 #104

Have you seen this one from The Onion? Violet_Crumble May 2016 #123

I must admit I don't read the Onion. Bad Dog May 2016 #125

I'll bet not... TipTok May 2016 #23

To answer your questions regarding Muslims. sulphurdunn May 2016 #28

they do not apply to Christians and Jews. that mistruth is no longer effective. MariaThinks May 2016 #37

The truth is alway easier sulphurdunn May 2016 #49

You clearly are, actually Scootaloo May 2016 #128

Violent religious fanatacism, supremacism and intolerance sulphurdunn May 2016 #7

i've asked about one specific religion and their beliefs. Is it possible to get straight answers? MariaThinks May 2016 #12

But only one leftynyc May 2016 #19

Fortunately, sulphurdunn May 2016 #25

But they're not leftynyc May 2016 #26

Well, if we concentrate on what's actually happening sulphurdunn May 2016 #29

But trying to pretend leftynyc May 2016 #30

Comparisons are neither true nor false. sulphurdunn May 2016 #32

FALSE comparisons leftynyc May 2016 #33

I like you GummyBearz May 2016 #34

But for the colonial aspirations sulphurdunn May 2016 #35

Well leftynyc May 2016 #40

A hateful generalization sulphurdunn May 2016 #50

Nope leftynyc May 2016 #53

Nope, the goddamn story sulphurdunn May 2016 #57

I think it's adorable leftynyc May 2016 #58

There are, as of this post, 89 comments sulphurdunn May 2016 #86

Nothing but crap leftynyc May 2016 #88

Look at reply #3 again - further up this sub-thread muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #90

Therer is a ton of truth leftynyc May 2016 #91

Oh, so you think Islam is a monolithic bloc that kills liberals, then? muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #92

Spare me the drama leftynyc May 2016 #96

You said there was a 'lot of truth' in #3 muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #97

What part of leftynyc May 2016 #98

You're moving your goalposts muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #99

Not at all leftynyc May 2016 #100

Not only a broad-brush, but they seem to be ignoring Indonesia... Violet_Crumble May 2016 #94

By all means leftynyc May 2016 #102

That doesn't support the claim made in post #3 Violet_Crumble May 2016 #109

I also think no religion should have leftynyc May 2016 #112

Also, it's nothing to do with "killing progressives and liberals", the claim you supported muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #113

Are the places that isis leftynyc May 2016 #114

If you're going to equate ISIS with 'Islam' - the subject of #3 - muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #115

Yes - I maintain there is a TON of truth leftynyc May 2016 #116

You don't seem to understand what the word 'kill' means muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #117

So THAT'S your problem with that post? leftynyc May 2016 #118

My problem with it is that it's a lie muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #119

You were saying? leftynyc May 2016 #121

They were saying that post #3 was a lie... Violet_Crumble May 2016 #122

No - I never used the word lie leftynyc May 2016 #124

I never said you used the word lie... Violet_Crumble May 2016 #126

No - what's happening here leftynyc May 2016 #127

That has that hint of... TipTok May 2016 #22

The poor dears couldn't help themselves. US foreign policy made them do it!!! Coventina May 2016 #4

murdering barbarians MariaThinks May 2016 #10

If anybody gives a damn ... Jopin Klobe May 2016 #8

its what a religion that thinks killing is a way to martyrdom and MariaThinks May 2016 #11

The "religions are equal" excuse is clear deflection. romanic May 2016 #13

i completely agree with you. anyone who cares about people and lives cannot keep MariaThinks May 2016 #14

You are right on target, Maria. Akicita May 2016 #16

+1000 smirkymonkey May 2016 #18

+1000 leftynyc May 2016 #20

hear, hear Akicita May 2016 #15

A very clear delfection leftynyc May 2016 #21

they will be the ones executed by the radicals MariaThinks May 2016 #39

You don't need religion sulphurdunn May 2016 #31

They aren't all equal... TipTok May 2016 #24

Bangladesh and Pakistan seem to be thinning their herds lately 6chars May 2016 #27

islamists destory the moderate voices that come ouand scare anyone who is even thinking about coming MariaThinks May 2016 #41

I kind of wish the west would support the liberal voices 6chars May 2016 #56

i agree with you MariaThinks May 2016 #61

I don't understand how some of the same liberals and progressives who are outraged by this killing Akicita May 2016 #36

that's a good question. Fear, stupidity? MariaThinks May 2016 #42

Even though homosexuality may be illegal in the countries they are fleeing, shouldn't refugees be Akicita May 2016 #43

there is an incredible amount of ignorance at play MariaThinks May 2016 #68

You should find one and ask them muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #52

You're right. I read about the Swedish progressives being outraged about the gay pride march and I Akicita May 2016 #55

very elloquently put. The caring response was not outrage at the killing but rather outrage at you MariaThinks May 2016 #70

Is this the march in Sweden yr referring to? Violet_Crumble May 2016 #95

who are you to tell someone else what they can and can't post? MariaThinks May 2016 #69

That poster seems to agree that there's not much chance of their post here muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #84

Weak. Akicita May 2016 #85

we're supposed to respect religious garbage Skittles May 2016 #87

A few words from the new mayor: Denzil_DC May 2016 #93

There ought to be a way to strengthen liberal followers of Islam oberliner May 2016 #105

Yes. Denzil_DC May 2016 #106

Agreed oberliner May 2016 #107

Well, one can discuss Islam, and/or one can discuss Muslims. Denzil_DC May 2016 #108

Republicans aren't monolithic either oberliner May 2016 #110

I really fail to see how criticism (often blanket) of Islam Denzil_DC May 2016 #111

Fair enough oberliner May 2016 #120