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181. So you are saying to give up?

Thu May 19, 2016, 05:30 PM

May 2016

Let's not shoot for the stars. Let's not give everyone a chance to have a good life. You would pay a few extra dollars for a few years at most with Bernie. Do you even realize that one of the reasons you are paying higher taxes is because of all the people locked up in prison? Your taxes pay for that. Hillary and Bill have both supported the 3 strikes law, and locking people up for small amounts of marijuana. And then the private prisons that Hillary supports have contracts which state that their prison must fill a certain percentage of beds, and if that quota is not filled they are still owed the money. The average cost per prisoner is $44,000 a year. How does this make sense?

Then of course there is the military. You don't think that Hillary isn't going to keep the military budget where it is or expand it? She is known for invading countries, whether public or under the radar. Your taxes also go to the military, and will probably increase under Hillary.

These are just 2 things, but I could go on.

I just don't understand Hillary supporters.

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Going for that perfect 0 - 9,632 on predictions, huh? 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #56

Trump isn't going to beat her. BigDemVoter May 2016 #140

Thanks for the positive pro-Democratic post, much appreciated. George II May 2016 #176

So, you want Trump? Get off DU then, this site is pretty clear about this nt Tumbulu May 2016 #180

Way. dchill May 2016 #3

IT'S HER TURN!!!!!!!!! nt longship May 2016 #5

And it aint Sanders turn. Thinkingabout May 2016 #166

Nor will it ever be Stuckinthebush May 2016 #211

It's Trump's! floriduck May 2016 #227

Never say never, Ms. Inevitable. forest444 May 2016 #6

If something happened to Clinton puffy socks May 2016 #130

Now who's being ridiculous? eom MrChuck May 2016 #138

Why is that ridiculous? nt puffy socks May 2016 #139

It's only my opinion but... MrChuck May 2016 #144

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #210

It certainly isn't. You'd be entirely within your rights (needless to say!). forest444 May 2016 #159

If she should be forced to step aside and SusanCalvin May 2016 #188

So puffy socks May 2016 #205

She. Does. Not. Have. The. Nomination. Yet. SusanCalvin May 2016 #207

Yes. She. Does. puffy socks May 2016 #212

Ooooookaaaaay... SusanCalvin May 2016 #216

What's with the veiled threats? puffy socks May 2016 #222

Not a threat, not veiled. Just a statement and a prediction. SusanCalvin May 2016 #233

As a huge Obama supporter here in 2008 this post is delicious. Egnever May 2016 #257

WRONG. If the Democratic Party wanted to commit suicide, we would've voted Sanders in BlueCaliDem May 2016 #236

Mkay. Guess that makes me "them." Thanks for the information. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #238

I don't know you from Adam, so I'll just assume if you're not with the Democratic Party, you're BlueCaliDem May 2016 #239

Oooookaaaaaaaay. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #240

Happy to read we agree. eom BlueCaliDem May 2016 #241

That's the way you took it? SusanCalvin May 2016 #263

Yep. And resorting to get personal is a sure-sign you know you lost the discussion. BlueCaliDem May 2016 #270

Just remarking on a tendency I consider counterproductive for Hillary. SusanCalvin May 2016 #300

I'm "them" too. crim son May 2016 #293

That's the way it's working for me. SusanCalvin May 2016 #299

The future isn't locked tight sakabatou May 2016 #7

yes, why all the recent talk about Biden? oldandhappy May 2016 #15

I can't tell if you're serious sakabatou May 2016 #18

Biden has been popping up in the media for the last week or two. frylock May 2016 #192

PTB still hope he would run if asked. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #208

Too odd desmiller May 2016 #252

I guess she's already figured out a way RoccoR5955 May 2016 #8

Its all in the math liberal N proud May 2016 #13

Stop with the sore loser bullshit leftynyc May 2016 #22

As I wrote elsewhere here today, at 72, having voted Democratic all my life, having JDPriestly May 2016 #60

Funny leftynyc May 2016 #67

At 57, I'm totally in the same mind set. hamsterjill May 2016 #101

There is no unification zalinda May 2016 #109

The D party has been too obvious this time... Helen Borg May 2016 #151

OH please! Stop just stop. She has the most votes and the most delegates. She will win. Laser102 May 2016 #169

She also has the most FBI agents currently investigating her. frylock May 2016 #194

It is not uncommon for a win to turn into a loss due to arrogance and insensitivity. JDPriestly May 2016 #224

Right. She cannot beat Trump unless he really goofs. In California, she might beat JDPriestly May 2016 #223

I believe there will be more unity than some might expect hamsterjill May 2016 #254

100% agreement leftynyc May 2016 #110

I view Hillary supporters as just "I've got mine but I want to feel good about it" people. JDPriestly May 2016 #112

I couldn't possibly disagree more leftynyc May 2016 #118

My taxes under Bernie would increase by $8,000 per year. hamsterjill May 2016 #177

Neither you nor your employer will have to pay as much for YOUR insurance if we JDPriestly May 2016 #225

You didn't get it. hamsterjill May 2016 #250

2 things you are not remembering. JDPriestly May 2016 #258

"Can" versus "Will" are two different things entirely. hamsterjill May 2016 #271

I'm retired, and my income is Social Security. It's low. Very low. JDPriestly May 2016 #273

So, when my taxes increase by $8,000 and I can't pay my bills any longer. hamsterjill May 2016 #274

Sounds like Republican talk. JDPriestly May 2016 #275

Nope, I'm no Republican. hamsterjill May 2016 #277

Enjoy your day too. JDPriestly May 2016 #279

So you are saying to give up? zalinda May 2016 #181

I never said that leftynyc May 2016 #262

Except that could change under Bernie zalinda May 2016 #267

Over 60 - I'm with you. eom reACTIONary May 2016 #209

Primary Challenge Boxer billhicks76 May 2016 #68

She's retiring. jhart3333 May 2016 #82

Lol. Guess That Settles That billhicks76 May 2016 #91

Right. We'll see how long her retirement is if HRC wins manages to win the GE notadmblnd May 2016 #157

She's not running TwilightZone May 2016 #88

I'm Trying billhicks76 May 2016 #95

She is literally as progressive as Sanders in Congress obamanut2012 May 2016 #114

I Used To Think She Was Too billhicks76 May 2016 #170

"elect not just a president, but a Congress" TwilightZone May 2016 #73

What do you think the term, "political revolution" means? JDPriestly May 2016 #104

I won't compromise again. M_A May 2016 #187

Why should he support the Democrats that tried to stop zalinda May 2016 #117

As a 77 year old woman who has been a Democrat since 1960, I agree with you. Duval May 2016 #93

I make all my donations through JPR now as well. frylock May 2016 #198

Please explain how it is not fair if she has more votes and more delegates. world wide wally May 2016 #115

Of course it was a setup sulphurdunn May 2016 #119

Oh, absolutely a setup. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #235

At 66 I have voted Dem all my life, but feel exactly as you have expressed AND KauaiK May 2016 #161

Thank You for that RoccoR5955 May 2016 #197

Excellent post Carolina May 2016 #246

Why Do All Clinton Group Prolific Posters Have Names With Left Or Liberal billhicks76 May 2016 #62

I don't post in the Clinton Group EVER leftynyc May 2016 #70

It Was A Question billhicks76 May 2016 #84

You fucked up leftynyc May 2016 #105

So I Was Right billhicks76 May 2016 #167

It's totally true, I've noticed it too. beerandjesus May 2016 #108

It's because they know that you wouldn't be able to "tell" that they are "left" from their actions w4rma May 2016 #259

Must Be In The Handbook lol billhicks76 May 2016 #261

She's got a crazy strategy called DrToast May 2016 #36

Getting more votes by suppressing more votes. You are correct, crazy strategy FlatBaroque May 2016 #71

Getting more votes is the important thing in a democracy to win elections greatlaurel May 2016 #81

Really? Why is it so hard to believe that millions more Ds have voted for Hillary than Sanders? stopbush May 2016 #37

You Do Know Clintons And Bushes Are The Same Family At This Point billhicks76 May 2016 #78

"Never see Jimmy Carter..." TwilightZone May 2016 #85

Those Don't Count billhicks76 May 2016 #89

If you don't think "former presidents" is a club... TwilightZone May 2016 #94

Always An Instigator billhicks76 May 2016 #146

Maybe not. nt Duval May 2016 #97

If you're going to use a Stephen Colbert avatar stopbush May 2016 #136

You're The Uneducated One billhicks76 May 2016 #163

According to CBS, she's up 51/33 with independents. TwilightZone May 2016 #53

And how long has the public known Hillary? zalinda May 2016 #123

She has the votes -- she didn't cheat obamanut2012 May 2016 #111

oh is it the republican hate machine blasting away in sheep clothing? nt Tumbulu May 2016 #184

Ha Ha...Hubris is as hubris does laserhaas May 2016 #9

Hubris goeth before a fall. reformist2 May 2016 #313

Hope so...Rvery GOP is of high hopes she gets away laserhaas May 2016 #314

cool! she does not have to show up in California!! oldandhappy May 2016 #10

I kinda get the feeling they are worried about not doing so well in California...nt Jesus Malverde May 2016 #16

I don't know. May split. oldandhappy May 2016 #33

No doubt. frylock May 2016 #200

The one who "does not have to show up in California" is Bernard Sanders jmowreader May 2016 #19

oh my goodness, capital letters!!! oldandhappy May 2016 #21

Oh my goodness, campaign finance infractions! jmowreader May 2016 #66

Holy shit!!! This is unprecedented. I am sure the FEC has to throw the candidate in jail for this Matt_in_STL May 2016 #79

So no FEC Indictment Fairy? frylock May 2016 #202

Yeah! That's how you know IT'S TRUE! mac56 May 2016 #69

Or the Burlington College scandal liberal N proud May 2016 #23

With that in mind, just think how bad it's going to look.. frylock May 2016 #201

There are three problems with your theory jmowreader May 2016 #217

She could not show up in California and still win the nomination. TwilightZone May 2016 #47

good for her. MariaThinks May 2016 #11

Is it the new Chic? bucolic_frolic May 2016 #12

There is no way.. coco77 May 2016 #17

What Disgusting Arrogance! McKim May 2016 #20

More drama queen bullshit leftynyc May 2016 #26

How can you say that when she has more votes and more delegates? Laurian May 2016 #32

Hardly arrogance. Mz Pip May 2016 #42

Funny to see a Sanders supporter complaining about a candidate's arrogance. stopbush May 2016 #43

^^^THIS^^^ SunSeeker May 2016 #61

Yes it is if you define arrogance as having the NERVE to run against Her Highness. I don't. Vincardog May 2016 #126

Correct SharonClark May 2016 #24

She also leads in current investigations and pending lawsuits. frylock May 2016 #203

Wow. And, SO modest. silvershadow May 2016 #25

Modest? Is Sanders modest ? Is Trump? Was Cruz? apcalc May 2016 #34

So, she's good at math!! Our nominee, and next president! lunamagica May 2016 #27

Ask her June 8th Skink May 2016 #28

I wonder James Comey thinks when he hears that. FlatBaroque May 2016 #29

Still holding out for that miracle? Laurian May 2016 #54

Whatever it takes. frylock May 2016 #204

She's right. apcalc May 2016 #30

Maybe she should be reminded Carolina May 2016 #31

yep. I would like to 840high May 2016 #45

Watched the entire interview on CNN. Such an impressive, brilliant and knowledgeable woman. She is skylucy May 2016 #35

If she is so brilliant and knowledgeable how is it that her email stance is described as "moronic"? JudyM May 2016 #125

This site is called Democratic Underground. I posted something positive about a life long Democrat skylucy May 2016 #156

Facts are facts. It's not any more right wing to criticize her than it is to criticize Bernie. JudyM May 2016 #165

She doesn't give a s--t for the nation's security, just her own Merryland May 2016 #199

Goldwater girl is a life long Democrat? HOPNOSH May 2016 #303

No. Brilliant looks different. Knowledgeable looks different. She is just entitled. nt thereismore May 2016 #149

I don't think that is fair. potone May 2016 #171

You made me watch it. Egnever May 2016 #260

This message was self-deleted by its author NowSam May 2016 #38

She's right. She's going to be the nominee. DawgHouse May 2016 #39

YES! Someone has to say it, and I'm glad she did. stopbush May 2016 #40

"Whatever differences we may have, they pale in comparison to the presumptive nominee of the GOP" TwilightZone May 2016 #41

She's right. She's been kind to wait this long to declare it. nt LexVegas May 2016 #46

She is simply stating a fact, unlikely Sanders when he says he has a "path to the nomination." nt SunSeeker May 2016 #48

Nice to see that one candidate understands basic math and has retained a sense of reality. TwilightZone May 2016 #49

Hillary understands math and stuff. leftofcool May 2016 #51

Clinton and her CIA and party shills. Such arrogance. She clearly doesn't want unity. ViseGrip May 2016 #52

Bernie says the same thing over and over and over with no depth or detail. Laurian May 2016 #63

Well, when you are constrained to the truth and facts, that kinda limits what you can say. -none May 2016 #182

WTH? Laurian May 2016 #193

And Hillary is backed by the OLIGARCHS. -none May 2016 #196

"Withdrew?" LOL! She was in to the very end of the primary. nt merrily May 2016 #55

She withdrew after the primaries, well before the convention. TwilightZone May 2016 #58

Point is: She claimed to have withdrawn, but, in reality, she was in until the very last primary. merrily May 2016 #100

If Sanders withdraws before the convention, does that count as withdrawing? TwilightZone May 2016 #103

I don't see any paint. merrily May 2016 #107

June 8, 2008-Clinton Ends Campaign With Clear Call to Elect Obama Bluenorthwest May 2016 #121

This little quote in the link irks me no end ... ebayfool May 2016 #256

OMG when she did try to withdraw.. peace13 May 2016 #186

She withdrew after Obama offered to make her SoS and pay off her campaign debt nxylas May 2016 #72

Obama didn't contact her about SOS until after the election. TwilightZone May 2016 #76

if only i could put you on ignore like 10 times, still wouldnt be enough litlbilly May 2016 #168

Oh, thank god you told me. I was starting to worry. TwilightZone May 2016 #234

She stayed in until the last primary, then negotiated some deal with Obama merrily May 2016 #106

^^^ thereismore May 2016 #153

HILLARY 2016! skylucy May 2016 #59

Hell with Democracy - What a twit she is. nt phazed0 May 2016 #64

Correctomundo! FrenchieCat May 2016 #65

Sure am glad that she doesn't need any of those annoying Sanders followers. mac56 May 2016 #74

Yeah. She pretty much solidified my vote for Bernie when she said Pakhet May 2016 #143

exactly They_Live May 2016 #245

Oh, did she herself say that? I had thought it was just her supporters/surrogates. SusanCalvin May 2016 #264

No arguing with her assessment. Sometimes the truth is hard for those who didn't win. nt eastwestdem May 2016 #75

Sounds like she's finally able to say what we've all known since March. BobbyDrake May 2016 #77

Hillary has already won the Delegates and votes. What is left for Bernie???? Walk away May 2016 #80

Bad move on her part. Duval May 2016 #83

Maybe this will inspire the FBI to speed up their investigation. Otherwise, the risk is a crash and TryLogic May 2016 #141

in her dreams. franannjo May 2016 #86

Me too TryLogic May 2016 #142

she's a regular dearie, isn't she? MisterP May 2016 #87

I don't care how you feel about her, she paid serious dues to be able to say just that BeyondGeography May 2016 #90

What dues? zalinda May 2016 #131

That's a big load of bullshit right there BeyondGeography May 2016 #150

No, she is where she is because she has had her way paved zalinda May 2016 #172

K&R Carolina May 2016 #213

Word up frylock May 2016 #215

"Serious dues"? bvf May 2016 #174

So it will easy-peasy for Bernie to nominate her by acclimation at the convention? BeyondGeography May 2016 #175

Louder, please. bvf May 2016 #185

lol forever and ever retrowire May 2016 #92

Hill, YEEEESSSSSSSSS! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #96

Way to depower the CA primary! peace13 May 2016 #98

She said the same thing in 2008 AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #99

Link? She was never this far ahead in 2008. SunSeeker May 2016 #127

Here you go AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #145

Wrong. She never said there is "no way" she won't be the nominee in that video. SunSeeker May 2016 #179

Gimme a break AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #183

That's right, she didn't use those words. SunSeeker May 2016 #189

Here in the reality-based community AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #191

Under your definition, every candidate that has ever run has said the "same thing." nt SunSeeker May 2016 #218

Well played. frylock May 2016 #219

I'm practicing my 'K&R'. Did I do it correctly? nt postatomic May 2016 #102

Damn straight, girl. lamp_shade May 2016 #113

Her majesty deigns to speak to mere mortals and we meekly applaud her magnificence. Ford_Prefect May 2016 #116

Well, gee, Clinton. BlueStater May 2016 #120

And there goes another million votes down the drain due to her caustic personality Android3.14 May 2016 #122

I am going to wait until the Investigation is over. Then I will vote for libdem4life May 2016 #137

Of course this is a simple statement of fact. Bros don't like those facts. Hence all the waaaah's. Squinch May 2016 #129

She was asked a question and she answered it truthfully. Butthurt ensues. nt SunSeeker May 2016 #132

Yep. Squinch May 2016 #134

That'll certainly rally the voters behind her nxylas May 2016 #133

*clicks fingers* "Oh, BOY ..." MisterP May 2016 #154

One thing I think a revolution requires is a majority of common citizens who want something and an world wide wally May 2016 #135

If reasonable Republicans (are there any?) would split off and run someone in addition to Trump, TryLogic May 2016 #158

I believe your spell check just had an oops. Ford_Prefect May 2016 #164

Braggadocio is always disgusting... Helen Borg May 2016 #147

True. johnp3907 May 2016 #148

Blows goat? frylock May 2016 #220

The math is set and Hillary will be our nominee beachbumbob May 2016 #152

This is a great thread to pick up newbies for the Ignore Bin. I got about 10. nt thereismore May 2016 #155

It ain't over till its over. Not until someone overwieght sings. marble falls May 2016 #160

A Few Facts . . . Gamecock Lefty May 2016 #162

In addition to releasing her paid speeches, she'd have to.....(pasted from another thread) seekthetruth May 2016 #173

I am thinking, what if something happens to Sanders it will not change anything at Thinkingabout May 2016 #178

Oh hai! frylock May 2016 #190

Now for sure I can't vote for her. What a f'in attitude. Merryland May 2016 #195

I keep hearing how the 2008 PUMAs came around for Obama. Zen Democrat May 2016 #206

The Democratic Party is so fucked. LS_Editor May 2016 #214

It's about time. grossproffit May 2016 #228

What's she supposed to say "No I won't be" ? Fix your knickers if they're in a twist. Every candidat TeamPooka May 2016 #231

And she's 100% correct - there IS no way she won't be the nominee. BlueCaliDem May 2016 #237

So, you say Hillary and Trump are the same? world wide wally May 2016 #242

Re: "What color do you think she will paint the wall?" Chameleon Puce Donkees May 2016 #247

Then vote for someone consistent like Trump world wide wally May 2016 #248

Blunt- but it needed to be said. wisteria May 2016 #249

NO LIES DETECTED!!!! UMTerp01 May 2016 #251

If Bernie Sanders feels differently, he could say the same thing... brooklynite May 2016 #253

Alrighty then. AngryOldDem May 2016 #255

I've said that for the past 4 years... ileus May 2016 #265

sounds al lot like George W Bush on Nov 7 2000 UpInArms May 2016 #272

Whatever made us think warrprayer May 2016 #278

Wonder what she knows? libodem May 2016 #294

like W: "But my little brother said I won!" yurbud May 2016 #301

Hillary only needs 9% of the remaining delegates to win verses BS needing 91% dubyadiprecession May 2016 #302