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In reply to the discussion: Israel is “infected by the seeds of fascism” and has been taken over by “extremists,” warn ex-prime [View all]seafan
(9,387 posts)33. 'Netanyahu replies to Officers’ charges of Fascism, makes far Right Avigdor Lieberman their boss'
Juan Cole reported on Friday:
Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu bolstered his majority and rid himself of a troublesome voice of conscience Thursday by appointing the extremist Avigdor Lieberman minister of defense. This move strengthened Netanyahus hand politically, removing a critic in the form of Moshe Yaalon, the previous minister of defense. But it also sent a signal to Israels officer corps, which has been showing distinct unease at Netanyahus march of the country into Mussolini territory.
Part of the dispute is over the cold-blooded murder allegedly committed by a 19-year-old Israeli soldier with an extremist background, who was caught on camera killing an incapacitated Palestinian assailant, Abd al-Fattah Yusri al-Sharif. Sharif had committed a knife attack before being incapacitated and searched. The video showed Azarya rushing back over, shouting angrily, and shooting the prostrate twenty-one year old in the head.
The Israeli officer corps insisted that Azarya be tried for manslaughter, apparently over the objections of Netanyahu, who called the soldiers parents and expressed sympathy for him. The far, far-right Lieberman led a virulent campaign on behalf of Azarya.
This incident, and the extremist Israeli attacks on Palestinians, so alarmed deputy chief of staff 3Maj. Gen. Yair Golan that he went so far as to liken the sickening processes he saw taking place in Israel to Nazi Germany in the 1930s (note: not the 1940s, when the Holocaust took place).
Netanyahu rebuked the general, but Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon backed him. He gave his own speech in which he said that Israelis must comprehend the limits of power and meticulously safeguard our purity of arms and our humanity, not lose our heads, eradicate racism, violence, verbal and physical attacks on women and exclusion of the other.
Netanyahu has now replaced Yaalon (a man of the right himself) with Avigdor Lieberman, who has been accused of racism. Lieberman once talked about destroying the Aswan Dam and sweeping 80 million Egyptians into the Mediterranean. He is in favor of expelling Palestinian-Israelis from Israel and taking away their citizenship unless they swear fealty to a Jewish state. He has been shadowed for years by corruption allegations, which even went to trial inconclusively. Lieberman, who wants to move around millions of Palestinians whose families have been living in the area from time immemorial, is a fairly recent immigrant from Moldova. In his youth, there, he worked as bouncer in a club.
This is no ordinary cabinet reshuffle. It is another step taken by the Israeli leadership into the dark side, as even its top generals recognize. Putting the civilian Lieberman, who has no particular military experience, over people like Gen. Golan as their boss sends the signal that the officer corps is to sit down and shut up, and let Netanyahu continue to move Israeli politics in the Mussolini direction.
Israeli journalists are fearful of criticizing Netanyahu. Rivals have accused him of trying to control the media. Human and civil rights in Israel and especially in the Occupied Territories where millions of Palestinians live, stateless, under Israeli military rule or under siege, and worsening by the month.
Part of the dispute is over the cold-blooded murder allegedly committed by a 19-year-old Israeli soldier with an extremist background, who was caught on camera killing an incapacitated Palestinian assailant, Abd al-Fattah Yusri al-Sharif. Sharif had committed a knife attack before being incapacitated and searched. The video showed Azarya rushing back over, shouting angrily, and shooting the prostrate twenty-one year old in the head.
The Israeli officer corps insisted that Azarya be tried for manslaughter, apparently over the objections of Netanyahu, who called the soldiers parents and expressed sympathy for him. The far, far-right Lieberman led a virulent campaign on behalf of Azarya.
This incident, and the extremist Israeli attacks on Palestinians, so alarmed deputy chief of staff 3Maj. Gen. Yair Golan that he went so far as to liken the sickening processes he saw taking place in Israel to Nazi Germany in the 1930s (note: not the 1940s, when the Holocaust took place).
Netanyahu rebuked the general, but Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon backed him. He gave his own speech in which he said that Israelis must comprehend the limits of power and meticulously safeguard our purity of arms and our humanity, not lose our heads, eradicate racism, violence, verbal and physical attacks on women and exclusion of the other.
Netanyahu has now replaced Yaalon (a man of the right himself) with Avigdor Lieberman, who has been accused of racism. Lieberman once talked about destroying the Aswan Dam and sweeping 80 million Egyptians into the Mediterranean. He is in favor of expelling Palestinian-Israelis from Israel and taking away their citizenship unless they swear fealty to a Jewish state. He has been shadowed for years by corruption allegations, which even went to trial inconclusively. Lieberman, who wants to move around millions of Palestinians whose families have been living in the area from time immemorial, is a fairly recent immigrant from Moldova. In his youth, there, he worked as bouncer in a club.
This is no ordinary cabinet reshuffle. It is another step taken by the Israeli leadership into the dark side, as even its top generals recognize. Putting the civilian Lieberman, who has no particular military experience, over people like Gen. Golan as their boss sends the signal that the officer corps is to sit down and shut up, and let Netanyahu continue to move Israeli politics in the Mussolini direction.
Israeli journalists are fearful of criticizing Netanyahu. Rivals have accused him of trying to control the media. Human and civil rights in Israel and especially in the Occupied Territories where millions of Palestinians live, stateless, under Israeli military rule or under siege, and worsening by the month.
Here is a detailed, historical piece from Morgan Strong from 2010, documenting how all of this destruction has unfolded over the years, and continues unresolved, today.
From the Archive: A century ago, the British-French Sykes-Picot deal carved up the Mideast, setting in motion conflicts made more complicated when Israel emerged and mastered American politics, as Morgan Strong described in 2010.
How Israel Out-Foxed US Presidents
At the end of a news conference on April 13, 2010, President Barack Obama made the seemingly obvious point that the continuing Middle East conflict pitting Israel against its Arab neighbors will end up costing us significantly in terms of both blood and treasure.
Obamas remark followed a similar statement in congressional testimony by Gen. David Petraeus on March 16, linking the unresolved Israeli-Palestinian conflict to the challenges that U.S. troops face in the region.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu speaking to a joint session of the U.S. Congress on March 3, 2015, in opposition to President Barack Obama's nuclear agreement with Iran. (Screen shot from CNN broadcast)
The conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel, Petraeus said in prepared testimony. Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples in the [region] and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world. Meanwhile, al-Qaeda and other militant groups exploit that anger to mobilize support.
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Yet, the truth behind the assessments from Obama and Petraeus is self-evident to anyone who has spent time observing the Middle East for the past six decades. Even the staunchly pro-Israeli Bush administration made similar observations.
In 2007 in Jerusalem, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice termed the Israeli/Palestinian peace process of strategic interest to the United States and expressed empathy for the beleaguered Palestinian people. The prolonged experience of deprivation and humiliation can radicalize even normal people, Rice said, referring to acts of Palestinian violence.
But the statements by Obama and Petraeus aroused alarm among some Israeli supporters who reject any suggestion that Israels harsh treatment of Palestinians might be a factor in the anti-Americanism surging through the Islamic world.
After Petraeuss comment, the pro-Israeli Anti-Defamation League said linking the Palestinian plight and Muslim anger was dangerous and counterproductive.
Gen. Petraeus has simply erred in linking the challenges faced by the U.S. and coalition forces in the region to a solution of the Israeli-Arab conflict, and blaming extremist activities on the absence of peace and the perceived U.S. favoritism for Israel, ADL national director Abraham Foxman said.
However, the U.S. governments widespread (though often unstated) recognition of the truth behind the assessment in Petraeuss testimony has colored how the Obama administration has reacted to the intransigence of Israels Likud government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
The U.S. government realizes how much it has done on Israels behalf, even to the extent of making Americans the targets of Islamic terrorism such as the 9/11 attacks (as the 9/11 Commission discovered but played down) and sacrificing the lives of thousands of U.S. troops fighting in Middle East conflicts.
That was the backdrop in March 2009 for President Obamas outrage over the decision of the Netanyahu government to continue building Jewish housing in Arab East Jerusalem despite the fact that the move complicated U.S. peace initiatives and was announced as Vice President Joe Biden arrived to reaffirm American support for Israel.
However, another little-acknowledged truth about the U.S.-Israeli relationship is that Israeli leaders have frequently manipulated and misled American presidents out of a confidence that U.S. politicians deeply fear the political fallout from any public battle with Israel.
Given that history, few analysts who have followed the arc of U.S.-Israeli relations since Israels founding in 1948 believe that the Israeli government is likely to retreat very much in its confrontation with President Obama. (Now, nearly seven years into Obamas presidency after Netanyahus persistent obstruction of Palestinian peace talks and his steady expansion of Jewish settlements that assessment has proved out.)
Obamas remark followed a similar statement in congressional testimony by Gen. David Petraeus on March 16, linking the unresolved Israeli-Palestinian conflict to the challenges that U.S. troops face in the region.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu speaking to a joint session of the U.S. Congress on March 3, 2015, in opposition to President Barack Obama's nuclear agreement with Iran. (Screen shot from CNN broadcast)
The conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel, Petraeus said in prepared testimony. Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples in the [region] and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world. Meanwhile, al-Qaeda and other militant groups exploit that anger to mobilize support.
.....
Yet, the truth behind the assessments from Obama and Petraeus is self-evident to anyone who has spent time observing the Middle East for the past six decades. Even the staunchly pro-Israeli Bush administration made similar observations.
In 2007 in Jerusalem, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice termed the Israeli/Palestinian peace process of strategic interest to the United States and expressed empathy for the beleaguered Palestinian people. The prolonged experience of deprivation and humiliation can radicalize even normal people, Rice said, referring to acts of Palestinian violence.
But the statements by Obama and Petraeus aroused alarm among some Israeli supporters who reject any suggestion that Israels harsh treatment of Palestinians might be a factor in the anti-Americanism surging through the Islamic world.
After Petraeuss comment, the pro-Israeli Anti-Defamation League said linking the Palestinian plight and Muslim anger was dangerous and counterproductive.
Gen. Petraeus has simply erred in linking the challenges faced by the U.S. and coalition forces in the region to a solution of the Israeli-Arab conflict, and blaming extremist activities on the absence of peace and the perceived U.S. favoritism for Israel, ADL national director Abraham Foxman said.
However, the U.S. governments widespread (though often unstated) recognition of the truth behind the assessment in Petraeuss testimony has colored how the Obama administration has reacted to the intransigence of Israels Likud government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
The U.S. government realizes how much it has done on Israels behalf, even to the extent of making Americans the targets of Islamic terrorism such as the 9/11 attacks (as the 9/11 Commission discovered but played down) and sacrificing the lives of thousands of U.S. troops fighting in Middle East conflicts.
That was the backdrop in March 2009 for President Obamas outrage over the decision of the Netanyahu government to continue building Jewish housing in Arab East Jerusalem despite the fact that the move complicated U.S. peace initiatives and was announced as Vice President Joe Biden arrived to reaffirm American support for Israel.
However, another little-acknowledged truth about the U.S.-Israeli relationship is that Israeli leaders have frequently manipulated and misled American presidents out of a confidence that U.S. politicians deeply fear the political fallout from any public battle with Israel.
Given that history, few analysts who have followed the arc of U.S.-Israeli relations since Israels founding in 1948 believe that the Israeli government is likely to retreat very much in its confrontation with President Obama. (Now, nearly seven years into Obamas presidency after Netanyahus persistent obstruction of Palestinian peace talks and his steady expansion of Jewish settlements that assessment has proved out.)
Still, Obama has shied away from publicly challenging Israel on some of its most sensitive issues, such as its undeclared nuclear-weapons arsenal. Like presidents back to Nixon, Obama has participated in the charade of ambiguity. Even as he demanded transparency from other countries, Obama continued to dance around questions regarding whether Israel has nuclear weapons.
Netanyahu and Israel surely have vulnerabilities. Without Americas military, diplomatic and economic support, Israel could not exist in its present form. One-quarter of Israeli wage incomes are derived from American aid money, German reparations and various charities. Without that outside assistance, Israels standard of living would sink dramatically.
According to the Congressional Research Service, Israel receives $2.4 billion a year in U.S. government grants, military assistance, loan guarantees, and sundry other sources. The United States also pays Egypt another $2 billion to keep the peace with Israel. The combined assistance to both countries comprises nearly one half of all U.S. foreign aid assistance worldwide.
In a sense, Israel cant be blamed for standing up for itself, especially given the long history of brutality and oppression directed against Jews. However, Israeli leaders have used this tragic history to justify their own harsh treatment of others, especially the Palestinians, many of whom were uprooted from their ancestral homes.
Over the past six decades, Israeli leaders also have refined their strategies for taking advantage of their staunchest ally, the United States. Today, with many powerful friends inside the United States and with Obama facing intense political pressure over his domestic and national security policies the Israeli government has plenty of reasons to believe that it can out-fox and outlast the current U.S. president as it did many of his predecessors.
Netanyahu and Israel surely have vulnerabilities. Without Americas military, diplomatic and economic support, Israel could not exist in its present form. One-quarter of Israeli wage incomes are derived from American aid money, German reparations and various charities. Without that outside assistance, Israels standard of living would sink dramatically.
According to the Congressional Research Service, Israel receives $2.4 billion a year in U.S. government grants, military assistance, loan guarantees, and sundry other sources. The United States also pays Egypt another $2 billion to keep the peace with Israel. The combined assistance to both countries comprises nearly one half of all U.S. foreign aid assistance worldwide.
In a sense, Israel cant be blamed for standing up for itself, especially given the long history of brutality and oppression directed against Jews. However, Israeli leaders have used this tragic history to justify their own harsh treatment of others, especially the Palestinians, many of whom were uprooted from their ancestral homes.
Over the past six decades, Israeli leaders also have refined their strategies for taking advantage of their staunchest ally, the United States. Today, with many powerful friends inside the United States and with Obama facing intense political pressure over his domestic and national security policies the Israeli government has plenty of reasons to believe that it can out-fox and outlast the current U.S. president as it did many of his predecessors.
When taken with the emergence of this news over the weekend:
Israel is infected by the seeds of fascism and has been taken over by extremists, warn ex-prime minister and defense ministers Salon, May 21, 2016
The explosion of harsh, hard-line conservatism is a threat to the world.
More examples from current news reports:
In Austria.
In Brazil.
In Argentina.
One of these candidates will not veer from the current path we are witnessing.
We The People must exercise our choice in six months.
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Israel is “infected by the seeds of fascism” and has been taken over by “extremists,” warn ex-prime [View all]
cali
May 2016
OP
Someone tries to stab you to death on the street, but you have a gun
Brother Joe Observes
May 2016
#4
I would complete endorse the idea of a contiguous Palestinian State
Brother Joe Observes
May 2016
#16
Israel is a fascist, tribalist, supremacist, genocidal-in-intent state, they are NOT our ally, they
AntiBank
May 2016
#15
Netanyahu appoints Ayelet Shaked—who called for genocide of Palestinians—as Justice Minister in new
AntiBank
May 2016
#42
The forcible driving out of specific ethnic or religious groups is ethnic cleansing.
leveymg
May 2016
#57
sorry, not buying your stale, tired defence of a this savage, tribal hate state
AntiBank
May 2016
#43
more like someone stabs you on their street so you use that as an excuse to bomb their block
yurbud
May 2016
#72
With Bibi there is no hope of compromise, only intransigence, and hence more violence in the MidEast
EndElectoral
May 2016
#6
I think we are equally in danger from Clinton who has ROBERT KAGAN as a advisor!
Peace Patriot
May 2016
#12
Powerful stuff. They aren't the first high-level former Israeli officials to stand up against Likud
RiverNoord
May 2016
#10
Seems like extremists are at the battlements of just about every country right now.
Kablooie
May 2016
#17
They are out of control, and have been for some time. It's worked for them, so well, it appears
silvershadow
May 2016
#22
'Netanyahu replies to Officers’ charges of Fascism, makes far Right Avigdor Lieberman their boss'
seafan
May 2016
#33
Thats what they get making 'cozy' with republicans. Is. citizens don't take those new home easy-in,
Sunlei
May 2016
#60
Unfortunately there are some true statements that Americans aren't ready to hear (nt)
Recursion
May 2016
#67