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redixdoragon

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50. Marginalized?! We're already marginalized

Thu May 26, 2016, 02:53 AM

May 2016

Our jobs are getting replaced and we're out hunting for it in a place where jobs are decreasingly available! How much more marginalized can you get? Is human life, dignity, and well being worth less than efficiency now? Is that the democratic way?

You're saying we should all sign up for trades? And then what, a whole millions of us do, glutting things, and maybe a few hundred of us actually get the job, fromt ime to time, without benefits, without means of stability.

How's a 50 year old who's been screwed out of retirement supposed to retool for whatever a robot hasn't replaced?

The issue isn't the robots, it's the people who control them and own them. They say we can be replaced, and then do NOTHING to see that we have wellbeing after we are. Until that changes, yes, these robots should be stopped from replacing us.

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Ex-McDonald�s CEO says raising the minimum wage will help robots take jobs [View all] mia May 2016 OP

Once the cost to pay people becomes higher than the cost Press Virginia May 2016 #1

That will happen just as fast with or without the raise. Robots are SO much cheaper than people Baobab May 2016 #30

Yeah but if the cost of the robot is higher than that of a person Press Virginia May 2016 #32

Robots can work 24/7 365 Jesus Malverde May 2016 #41

Such exciting opportunities! redixdoragon May 2016 #42

I don't see the frogs hopping out of the pot Jesus Malverde May 2016 #48

Marginalized?! We're already marginalized redixdoragon May 2016 #50

Employers are not responsible for the community Jesus Malverde May 2016 #55

When we effect the environment around us, we are responsible redixdoragon May 2016 #57

While we largely agree Jesus Malverde May 2016 #59

Then to stop doing harm to the environment redixdoragon May 2016 #63

Businesses are by their very nature going to do whatever they can get away with. Jesus Malverde May 2016 #67

So it seems to be a systemic problem of business. redixdoragon May 2016 #68

Recognize the beast Jesus Malverde May 2016 #71

so what do you do for a living? snooper2 May 2016 #100

Your name, your very name. redixdoragon May 2016 #54

Fear of losing jobs for cannabis prohibition...nt Jesus Malverde May 2016 #56

He is the patron saint lancer78 May 2016 #78

We need new models for everything Baobab May 2016 #112

Thanks to the miracle of mass production, that wont be the case. Baobab May 2016 #105

"John henry ... {laid} ... railroad track for the transcontinental railway." mahatmakanejeeves May 2016 #110

That is why a smart young person would get a degree in something like hydraulic engineering snooper2 May 2016 #99

It's happening already in my area. Kilgore May 2016 #129

They were going to do that anyway. Skink May 2016 #2

No question. They are doing it now, and the numbers will just increase. n/t jtuck004 May 2016 #4

Yes and they are doing it now GreatGazoo May 2016 #53

I suspect that hell has a special place waiting for pricks like him. CentralMass May 2016 #3

As a businessman it's your responsibility to Jesus Malverde May 2016 #44

We are talking about a society that is making the CentralMass May 2016 #64

This idea is not new whatthehey May 2016 #89

Good read Jesus Malverde May 2016 #113

It could be the next great human revolution. katsy May 2016 #104

What nonsense. People have been replaced by machinery since the invention of the wheel. Ikonoklast May 2016 #90

Robots are coming to every job they can, regardless of wages. nt silvershadow May 2016 #5

Every job including CEOs I hope. safeinOhio May 2016 #84

And the robots will break down and you can pay the same worker $100/hr. to fix it. tabasco May 2016 #6

But you only pay one worker, christx30 May 2016 #9

I was thinking just having a robot to replace the cashier. tabasco May 2016 #13

I don't see why not. christx30 May 2016 #18

Robots will diagnose their own part failure, send out for the part Baobab May 2016 #33

NOw there's wallyworld2 May 2016 #51

Outsourcing CEOs could save a fortune too... think May 2016 #7

Hey, Mr. Ex-CEO........ HeartoftheMidwest May 2016 #8

Foxconn replacing '60,000 factory workers with robots' elmac May 2016 #10

After 20 years wages in China are going up Jesus Malverde May 2016 #49

No jobs, no need for McDonalds. Kittycat May 2016 #11

Let robots buy their shitty synthetic 'food' Monk06 May 2016 #40

That's the interesting wrinkle Jesus Malverde May 2016 #52

+1 JudyM May 2016 #96

Bingo! inanna May 2016 #106

I dare them to try it because as much as I enjoy their french fries i would boycott them and any cstanleytech May 2016 #12

They already do this Recursion May 2016 #28

Yes I know about the ordering but that just makes things faster once people get cstanleytech May 2016 #34

I'm not sure I follow you metalbot May 2016 #85

Oh there is plenty of judgement to do in a busy restaurant and besides even cstanleytech May 2016 #98

But will robots Jesus Malverde May 2016 #114

We are going to boycot them redixdoragon May 2016 #43

I will not spend a fucking cent at a place with robots. Greybnk48 May 2016 #14

If you drive a car, or ride in one, you already do Democat May 2016 #86

Workers say thank you tazkcmo May 2016 #87

Already happening. appalachiablue May 2016 #15

Ha! sofa king May 2016 #125

Which proves corporations don't give a rat's ass about people. Lint Head May 2016 #16

umm it's the PEOPLE who are loving and using the kiosks...those millennials wondering where the jobs msongs May 2016 #25

Don't lump this on us. redixdoragon May 2016 #45

I like how it's millenials fault. No evidence just shit against the wall. neverforget May 2016 #74

Damn kidz!!! tazkcmo May 2016 #88

And this CEO made how many millions per year in pay and stock options? Chicago1980 May 2016 #17

Looks like he's earning his multi-million dollar pension thelordofhell May 2016 #19

Anymore all McDonalds is is a staffed vending machine. Gore1FL May 2016 #20

CEOs are the real criminals in this world. Initech May 2016 #21

And, I didn't think McDonald's food could get any worse... mudstump May 2016 #22

I think when folks can't afford McDonalds, no number of robots will be able to eat their own garbage tomm2thumbs May 2016 #23

. silvershadow May 2016 #24

Why aren't there robots in other countries then? DrToast May 2016 #26

Huh? not following your post LOL snooper2 May 2016 #102

Just yesterday I read in DU that Adidas will again manufacture LiberalElite May 2016 #123

Pay people more and they won't eat McDonald's crap. nt OnyxCollie May 2016 #27

Why haven't robots replaced CEOS? Geronimoe May 2016 #29

My husband and I were just talking about eilen May 2016 #79

+1. Bad congresscritters and pols too. Bangalore has a very pleasant climate. appalachiablue May 2016 #108

Because CEO's are just so smart, like this guy underpants May 2016 #131

I hope the robots like McDonald's food andym May 2016 #31

They'll need to make a robot snort May 2016 #35

Sounds like he let the cat out of the bag. The minimum wage increase doesn't matter... C Moon May 2016 #36

"Newest McDonalds CEO's job taken over by robot; other workers safe" nt longship May 2016 #37

Something interesting UnFettered May 2016 #38

No reason hundreds of robots could not be managed. Jesus Malverde May 2016 #116

We should ask his robot housekeeper... Spitfire of ATJ May 2016 #39

The Jetsons coming to McDonald's near you. jillan May 2016 #58

If it's all automated redixdoragon May 2016 #46

These robots need maintenance all the time The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #47

Do you know what McDonalds really deals in? It ain't burgers Press Virginia May 2016 #76

And there you have it. Capitalism in a nutshell. Nothing matters but profits. jillan May 2016 #60

Well robots cost money and they are not infallible.. you have to hire tech people to fix them. YOHABLO May 2016 #61

because robots taking jobs wouldn't have happened otherwise. tenderfoot May 2016 #62

Hell, they want to replace security guards. redixdoragon May 2016 #65

This is a justification or what's already happening. SheilaT May 2016 #66

great post Locrian May 2016 #81

You have a great idea re required minimum wage, but I want a FULL year! raging moderate May 2016 #83

I hear that robots love to eat hamburgers Matariki May 2016 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Turbineguy May 2016 #70

So much wrong with this statement Trajan May 2016 #72

Something for the Star Trek fans. redixdoragon May 2016 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #75

Doesn't Matter StrayKat May 2016 #77

They start with tech, they die by tech eilen May 2016 #80

So tax the robots - duh pengu May 2016 #82

I'm for anyone or anything that'll get my iced tea order phylny May 2016 #91

I Robot Bayard May 2016 #92

Just justifying future plans. sofa king May 2016 #93

So now they are holding the working class hostage and KPN May 2016 #94

1%'er says, "Fuck workers, give us more money!" tabasco May 2016 #95

^^ this ^^ Myrina May 2016 #109

If a machine can do it faster, better, or cheaper, businesses will buy that machine. Throd May 2016 #97

i hope this spawns a lot of entry level jobs in the robot repair & maintenance field 0rganism May 2016 #101

Assholes of the world should get ready for basic, guaranteed minimum income then. stillwaiting May 2016 #103

I would love to see how kacekwl May 2016 #107

Here's arms at work at the Robotic Pharmacy in San Fran. appalachiablue May 2016 #111

Seems to be kacekwl May 2016 #121

That's a large hospital example where pharma robotics have been applied first. Viewpoints, appalachiablue May 2016 #122

Every time you use self scan at the grocery store, EllieBC May 2016 #115

I like the self checkout because it's christx30 May 2016 #117

Again, you are helping the store eliminate more jobs. EllieBC May 2016 #118

Make the human checkers faster so I don't have to spend christx30 May 2016 #119

Instead of investing in robots, they should azmom May 2016 #120

Because Obviously, They've Been A Dismal Failure In The Restaurant Business ProfessorGAC May 2016 #134

Maybe focusing on the bottom line is the entire azmom May 2016 #135

they would only HAVE to do this if they were just breaking even now yurbud May 2016 #124

when toasters and refrigerators came out the icemen & fireplace toast rack companies weren't happy Sunlei May 2016 #126

That selfish prick wants a tax cut. Darb May 2016 #127

So now Uponthegears May 2016 #128

Bring it on - the workers can then go to work building robots and repairing robots liberal N proud May 2016 #130

Robots are coming to Mickey Dee's no matter what the minimum wage is/will be. no_hypocrisy May 2016 #132

On the positive side, OnDoutside May 2016 #133