NATO starts biggest ever drill in Poland amid security fears

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76. What NATO member has Russia invaded????

Now, the Crimean was taken by the Russians, but the Ukraine is still between Russian and those troops AND THE UKRAINE IS NOT IN NATO. The revolt in the Eastern Ukraine has been supported by Russia, but again it is in the EASTERN UKRAINE, Poland is the nearest NATO country and it borders WESTERN UKRAINE. Thus you have the WHOLE UKRAINE between Russia and NATO in the area where Russian troops have been active.

On the other hand, it us NATO who is sending troops to the Baltics, all of which border Russia. Thus the only movement of troops have been from Western Europe to the Russian Border NOT from inside Russia to those same borders.

Your logic escapes me, the US sends troops to the border of Russia but that is NOT moving "anyone up to Russia's borders" while the only ACCUSATION OF THE movement of Russia troops has been to the Eastern Ukraine, which is NOT a member of NATO and NO RUSSIAN troops have been accused of being west of Kharkov let alone Kiev, thus even if Russian Troops are in the Eastern Ukraine that is still NOT near any border of any NATO country.

Remember the Ukraine is NOT in NATO. Poland is the nearest NATO member and it is the opposite of the Ukraine from where the fighting is occurring. Thus no movement of any Russian forces to the border of any NATO Country. NATO has even acknowledged that the Russians have NOT even moved their troops from their positions around St Petersburgh. NATO does said Russia has flown by their borders, but NATO does that to Russia all of the time.

As to reconquering Europe, Russia best weapon to do so is its Oil and Natural Gas Reserves. Russia sells its natural gas and oil to Europe and China and that makes them both dependent on Russia (and one of the reason many of our NATO allies want to end this provocations of Russia, but no one is listening in France or Germany, who will will need to support any "Defense" of the Baltics). Thus Putin does NOT need take Europe by force, he is the dealer of what Europe is addicted to and sooner or later all addicts come to think of their dealers as their best friend.

Saudi Arabia is the only real threat to Russia's supply of oil to Europe. US Fracking of oil and Natural Gas had been expected to peak out on 2017, but the drop in oil and natural gas prices have stop drilling early and Russia and Saudi Arabia has picked up the slack.

In many ways, oil and Natural Gas may be why the US are sending these troops to the Baltics, to force Putin do spend money on defense, that would be better spent on expanding Russia's natural gas production (Russia has admitted it expects its oil production to decline over the next several decades but expect to be in the top three oil producers for several decades). Natural Gas is Russia's most important weapon and with the fracking bust in the US, it will remain Russia's most important weapon for it will force Europe to come to Russia NOT Russia to Europe. Thus Putin will position Russia to be like the US was in WWII, the biggest oil producers to a post war Europe that became more and more addicted to oil. That is how the US controlled and dominated NATO (and how the US defeated Hitler). Russia, even during WWII was already the #2 oil producer (and one of the reason the US did not attack Russia in 1945, Russia had the oil to defend itself, unlike Hitler whose attack on Russia cut him off from his oil supplies, which prior to the invasion of Russia was from Russia. The subsequent lack of oil was the primary reason Hitler lost WWII.

Putin will NOT attack NATO, he does not have to, for Russia is the supplier of what Europe is addicted to and as long as that is the case, Russia will be in position to demand from Europe what Europe wants.