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ChairmanAgnostic

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25. it is not minor, it is not a minor correlation,

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:38 AM

Jun 2016

there is a substantial increase in statin takers getting adult onset diabetes. Of course the drug houses skip over that, because they can now also sell you insulin and other drugs for your Type 2!

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Heart disease is not caused by high cholesterol so taking statins is 'waste of time', research finds [View all] avaistheone1 Jun 2016 OP

Yep. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #1

My mother's body manufactured its own, at 3x the normal high-water mark and lived to be 90. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #21

It is complete horseshit, and yet that notion is anathema to the medical establishment. bemildred Jun 2016 #23

I want you around a long time. Solly Mack Jun 2016 #29

Hey Solly. bemildred Jun 2016 #30

:) Solly Mack Jun 2016 #31

Yes! Duval Jun 2016 #57

Self discipline. Always worth cultivating. Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #46

The most essential thing you need to control. bemildred Jun 2016 #50

. Jesus Malverde Jun 2016 #65

That is really remarkable. Duval Jun 2016 #56

Aaargh! Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #2

The evidence was always correlative, IIRC Major Nikon Jun 2016 #3

"Time ?" how about money? how about 'may be damaging'? GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #4

My thoughts exactly!!! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #5

Statins don't eliminate cholesterol, they merely reduce the type that collect on the walls... George II Jun 2016 #9

statins do a tremendous amount of harm to a body. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2016 #6

Sorry, I have to disagree, Statins used properly can be a life saver. happyslug Jun 2016 #40

Yes, they missed the over 65 part. Drahthaardogs Jun 2016 #45

We found out about the danger years ago. Duval Jun 2016 #55

Also low cholesterol can be a sign of cancer womanofthehills Jun 2016 #67

Dr. Atkins for the win! PennyK Jun 2016 #7

That is what I thought of when I read the last paragraph: jwirr Jun 2016 #20

Not really shenmue Jun 2016 #33

Yep, I went on Atkins a couple of years ago. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #37

The article points out very clearly there are faults in that study, and still_one Jun 2016 #8

The problem with those studies is they include people who should be excluded happyslug Jun 2016 #49

I agree. The problem with this study is it is a retrospective study. In long term double blind still_one Jun 2016 #59

I wish they would continue their analysis get the red out Jun 2016 #10

My daughter is 18 and takes statins exboyfil Jun 2016 #11

There are a lot of factors involved. Of course if you can lower the LDL by diet still_one Jun 2016 #15

NO! Please do not. Drahthaardogs Jun 2016 #47

I can definitely tell which women in my book club are on statins womanofthehills Jun 2016 #68

I took them for about 3 weeks LittleGirl Jun 2016 #12

Personally Old Codger Jun 2016 #13

Kidney failure is not an uncommon result of these medicines as well ToxMarz Jun 2016 #14

There is an extremely low risk of rhabdomyolysis from taking stains. still_one Jun 2016 #17

So what does cause heart disease then? Hawaii Hiker Jun 2016 #16

The biggest risk is poised by elevated LDL, according to evidenced based medicine still_one Jun 2016 #18

Lately sugar has been pointed to as a big culprit. Arugula Latte Jun 2016 #32

Yes, we read about that, too. Duval Jun 2016 #58

statins also linked to dementia and other cognitive difficulties. ellenrr Jun 2016 #19

There is also a very strong link between statins and Type 2 diabetes. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #22

it is not minor, it is not a minor correlation, ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2016 #25

Very interesting, because myself and a number of other men my age (60) who have been Francis Booth Jun 2016 #36

Another common denominator is that you all got older elias7 Jun 2016 #53

Could be. But people I've spoken to who aren't on statins aren't seeing this A1c increase. nt Francis Booth Jun 2016 #66

It would seems that Beearewhyain Jun 2016 #24

Why does this study hate science... and pharmaceutical company profits!!? villager Jun 2016 #26

It's pretty well known now that... Timmy5835 Jun 2016 #27

Statins have pretty dangerous side effects in other areas IronLionZion Jun 2016 #28

So I can have pizza tonight. Kingofalldems Jun 2016 #34

Dietary Cholesterol Dosn't Mean Squat Night Watchman Jun 2016 #35

It helps to look at the source 6chars Jun 2016 #38

Here's an article on Tim Russert's death Hawaii Hiker Jun 2016 #39

Never fell for this SCAM CountAllVotes Jun 2016 #41

My doctor keeps trying to get me on statins--and I keep refusing. Now I am glad I held my ground. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #42

Same here CountAllVotes Jun 2016 #43

Type 2 diabetes runs in my family, and I know statins are associated with tblue37 Jun 2016 #44

oh boy CountAllVotes Jun 2016 #48

Now men know how women felt when "authorities" told us HRT doesn't prevent heart disease, valerief Jun 2016 #51

Erroneous conclusion elias7 Jun 2016 #52

Good pick-up. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #61

statins lower cardiovascular risk by decreasing vascular inflammation, not by cholesterol lowering elias7 Jun 2016 #54

Anyone here know anyone on statins who says "now I can eat anything"? Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #60

I have atherosclerosis madokie Jun 2016 #62

The biggest thing you can do to avoid a lot of the nasty diseases is.... Bigmack Jun 2016 #63

All I can say is.. sendero Jun 2016 #64