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27. It's pretty well known now that...

Reply to avaistheone1 (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:46 AM

Jun 2016

Cholesterol doesn't cause heart disease inflammation does.

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Heart disease is not caused by high cholesterol so taking statins is 'waste of time', research finds [View all] avaistheone1 Jun 2016 OP

Yep. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #1

My mother's body manufactured its own, at 3x the normal high-water mark and lived to be 90. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #21

It is complete horseshit, and yet that notion is anathema to the medical establishment. bemildred Jun 2016 #23

I want you around a long time. Solly Mack Jun 2016 #29

Hey Solly. bemildred Jun 2016 #30

:) Solly Mack Jun 2016 #31

Yes! Duval Jun 2016 #57

Self discipline. Always worth cultivating. Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #46

The most essential thing you need to control. bemildred Jun 2016 #50

. Jesus Malverde Jun 2016 #65

That is really remarkable. Duval Jun 2016 #56

Aaargh! Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #2

The evidence was always correlative, IIRC Major Nikon Jun 2016 #3

"Time ?" how about money? how about 'may be damaging'? GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #4

My thoughts exactly!!! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #5

Statins don't eliminate cholesterol, they merely reduce the type that collect on the walls... George II Jun 2016 #9

statins do a tremendous amount of harm to a body. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2016 #6

Sorry, I have to disagree, Statins used properly can be a life saver. happyslug Jun 2016 #40

Yes, they missed the over 65 part. Drahthaardogs Jun 2016 #45

We found out about the danger years ago. Duval Jun 2016 #55

Also low cholesterol can be a sign of cancer womanofthehills Jun 2016 #67

Dr. Atkins for the win! PennyK Jun 2016 #7

That is what I thought of when I read the last paragraph: jwirr Jun 2016 #20

Not really shenmue Jun 2016 #33

Yep, I went on Atkins a couple of years ago. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #37

The article points out very clearly there are faults in that study, and still_one Jun 2016 #8

The problem with those studies is they include people who should be excluded happyslug Jun 2016 #49

I agree. The problem with this study is it is a retrospective study. In long term double blind still_one Jun 2016 #59

I wish they would continue their analysis get the red out Jun 2016 #10

My daughter is 18 and takes statins exboyfil Jun 2016 #11

There are a lot of factors involved. Of course if you can lower the LDL by diet still_one Jun 2016 #15

NO! Please do not. Drahthaardogs Jun 2016 #47

I can definitely tell which women in my book club are on statins womanofthehills Jun 2016 #68

I took them for about 3 weeks LittleGirl Jun 2016 #12

Personally Old Codger Jun 2016 #13

Kidney failure is not an uncommon result of these medicines as well ToxMarz Jun 2016 #14

There is an extremely low risk of rhabdomyolysis from taking stains. still_one Jun 2016 #17

So what does cause heart disease then? Hawaii Hiker Jun 2016 #16

The biggest risk is poised by elevated LDL, according to evidenced based medicine still_one Jun 2016 #18

Lately sugar has been pointed to as a big culprit. Arugula Latte Jun 2016 #32

Yes, we read about that, too. Duval Jun 2016 #58

statins also linked to dementia and other cognitive difficulties. ellenrr Jun 2016 #19

There is also a very strong link between statins and Type 2 diabetes. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #22

it is not minor, it is not a minor correlation, ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2016 #25

Very interesting, because myself and a number of other men my age (60) who have been Francis Booth Jun 2016 #36

Another common denominator is that you all got older elias7 Jun 2016 #53

Could be. But people I've spoken to who aren't on statins aren't seeing this A1c increase. nt Francis Booth Jun 2016 #66

It would seems that Beearewhyain Jun 2016 #24

Why does this study hate science... and pharmaceutical company profits!!? villager Jun 2016 #26

It's pretty well known now that... Timmy5835 Jun 2016 #27

Statins have pretty dangerous side effects in other areas IronLionZion Jun 2016 #28

So I can have pizza tonight. Kingofalldems Jun 2016 #34

Dietary Cholesterol Dosn't Mean Squat Night Watchman Jun 2016 #35

It helps to look at the source 6chars Jun 2016 #38

Here's an article on Tim Russert's death Hawaii Hiker Jun 2016 #39

Never fell for this SCAM CountAllVotes Jun 2016 #41

My doctor keeps trying to get me on statins--and I keep refusing. Now I am glad I held my ground. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #42

Same here CountAllVotes Jun 2016 #43

Type 2 diabetes runs in my family, and I know statins are associated with tblue37 Jun 2016 #44

oh boy CountAllVotes Jun 2016 #48

Now men know how women felt when "authorities" told us HRT doesn't prevent heart disease, valerief Jun 2016 #51

Erroneous conclusion elias7 Jun 2016 #52

Good pick-up. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #61

statins lower cardiovascular risk by decreasing vascular inflammation, not by cholesterol lowering elias7 Jun 2016 #54

Anyone here know anyone on statins who says "now I can eat anything"? Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #60

I have atherosclerosis madokie Jun 2016 #62

The biggest thing you can do to avoid a lot of the nasty diseases is.... Bigmack Jun 2016 #63

All I can say is.. sendero Jun 2016 #64