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Igel

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12. It doesn't matter if all 9 circuit courts and the SCOTUS say the ban is constitutional.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jun 2016

If there are only bans in a few states.

And, correct me if I'm wrong, the only reason the AWB worked at the federal level in the '90s is because Congress has Constitutional authority to regulate interstate trade. All Congressional authority is granted and enumerated; it has none on its own any more than the President does.

Granted, over the years it's found greater and greater powers in the interstate commerce clause. Things that don't trade over the borders of a state can be found to somehow influence something that affects the ability to produce something that is traded. If you can regulate the end product of a long line of causes and affects it, apparently, means you can regulate everything along the way.

Rather like saying if you can regulate clean water because a creek crosses a state line that you can regulate how often somebody mows their backyard. Because, after all, that shortened grass produces less oxygen, and oxygen goes into making water that becomes dew or rain that becomes run-off that forms creeks that run across state lines.

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Excellent! George II Jun 2016 #1
The "Won't do their job" Senate has created a "Can't do their job" SCOTUS CincyDem Jun 2016 #2
There was never any real doubt that the AWB was constitutional hack89 Jun 2016 #7
It doesn't matter if all 9 circuit courts and the SCOTUS say the ban is constitutional. Igel Jun 2016 #12
Not really sure on the point here. CincyDem Jun 2016 #15
This really isn't about having eight justices. rsdsharp Jun 2016 #39
Tipping point reached, gun nuts. nt onehandle Jun 2016 #3
Not sure a 3 state ban TeddyR Jun 2016 #4
Strict gun control laws just failed in Rhode Island hack89 Jun 2016 #5
Letting individual states have their way on gun control is the "tipping point"? Observe: Just reading posts Jun 2016 #9
Any successful restriction or preservation of restrictions is progress. onehandle Jun 2016 #13
If any restriction on gun rights is "progress", exactly what is your goal? What's the end game? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #16
A reasonable end game... Orrex Jun 2016 #21
Which means what, in terms of legislation? What restrictions do you want imposed on the RKBA? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #28
I've answered this many times, and I don't care to rehash it here in detail Orrex Jun 2016 #30
Which means what, in terms of legislation? What restrictions do you want imposed on the RKBA? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #29
I've answered this many times, and I don't care to rehash it here in detail Orrex Jun 2016 #31
So you plan on outlawing more than half the guns in America? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #32
Yes, I know that gun-enablers resist all efforts to correct the problem Orrex Jun 2016 #33
Some problems don't have realistic solutions. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #35
"15 million more per year, at current record level sales." Orrex Jun 2016 #38
The Supremes put paid to your proposals back in March, in an 8-0 decision: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #41
It's a reaction to people saying they want to ban guns. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #43
Thanks, but gun-enablers are in no position to declare what is and what is not rational Orrex Jun 2016 #44
And asserting that making half a dozen pistol mags should be punished more than murder is rational? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #47
Well, there's always room for another gun-enabler on my Ignore list. Orrex Jun 2016 #49
Well, it's less effort than trying (and failing) to counter my arguments....I'll give you that. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #50
The ignore list should be a last resort TeddyR Jun 2016 #51
that is part of their paranoia Skittles Jun 2016 #46
Did they ever divulge the location of Scalia's grave? Paladin Jun 2016 #6
If you understood Heller, you would not be saying that hack89 Jun 2016 #8
Scalia specifically said AWBs are Constitutional Recursion Jun 2016 #22
Unlikely... Princess Turandot Jun 2016 #34
Wise choice, in Scalia's case. (nt) Paladin Jun 2016 #40
As above, so below ... Nihil Jun 2016 #53
Excellent. we are now moving again to a "Well regulated militia..." nt Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #10
We've seldom had a "well regulated militia." Igel Jun 2016 #14
We sure as hell didn't have one..... Paladin Jun 2016 #19
But in modern terms, well regulated means, well, regulated. With Scala gone, the lie of "Original Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #20
Supreme Court says "KAPOW!" to the gun worshippers! n/t Herman4747 Jun 2016 #11
Take that, the gun-obsessed hlthe2b Jun 2016 #17
Good move, SCOTUS! Initech Jun 2016 #18
And that's kind of the problem: AWBs don't actually *do* anything Recursion Jun 2016 #23
Hip Hip Hurray for sanity and life. lark Jun 2016 #24
And while everyone celebrates sarisataka Jun 2016 #25
Indeed, that is a dreadful decision. nt appal_jack Jun 2016 #27
Yes it was Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #36
Great news eom rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #26
A big Thank You to Fat Tony. forest444 Jun 2016 #37
Maybe we Den't need a Ninth Justice After All Night Watchman Jun 2016 #42
It is amazing how many people still don't understand ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #45
I"m curious how this will be handled passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #48
State by state maindawg Jun 2016 #52
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