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muriel_volestrangler

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80. All I can think it means is: don't assume it's one faction rather than another

Reply to HeartoftheMidwest (Reply #76)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 05:16 PM

Jul 2016

It could even be both, joined because they'd each rather work with the other than Erdogan and his party.

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Turkey army group announces takeover on TV (Turkish military coup) [View all] MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 OP

Turkish military blocks Istanbul bridges MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #1

What's Going on in Turkey? bemildred Jul 2016 #2

I'm not sure I am rooting for anyone here eom rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #7

That would be premature. nt bemildred Jul 2016 #8

Even in the abstract rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #15

There ain't no cure for some kinds of stupid. bemildred Jul 2016 #18

Didn't say it would succeed rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #20

I don't believe I said anything about what you said. bemildred Jul 2016 #23

You seem to be arguing with me but rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #28

Have a nice day. nt bemildred Jul 2016 #29

You too! rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #83

Celebratory gunshots reverberate across Syrian capital, after Turkey coup news bemildred Jul 2016 #85

CNN just showed civilians shot on the street rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #86

Yep. Hard to say how far the violence will go. bemildred Jul 2016 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author uawchild Jul 2016 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author uawchild Jul 2016 #95

Root for the military--it may seem counterintuitive, but they are the "good guys" MADem Jul 2016 #58

I'm afraid the coup will fail and Yupster Jul 2016 #135

Looks like it already has failed--it is all over but the tears. MADem Jul 2016 #136

Turkish Prime Minister just said it's a coup. Daemonaquila Jul 2016 #3

Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim says a group within the military engaged in an attempted coup bemildred Jul 2016 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author maxsolomon Jul 2016 #5

Reading on Twitter that .. ananda Jul 2016 #6

What a week? How about what a year Wednesdays Jul 2016 #88

Reminds me of Egypt 6chars Jul 2016 #9

A little different. MADem Jul 2016 #114

Who are the good guys? left-of-center2012 Jul 2016 #10

TBD MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #11

a military coup would probably keep u.s. ties 6chars Jul 2016 #12

I wouldn't say he's hugely popular. Calista241 Jul 2016 #119

No one. Every one. nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #13

Well, Erdoğan is a little too friendly with ISIS for my personal christx30 Jul 2016 #25

Um, we aid Honduras. a la izquierda Jul 2016 #67

There was an issue with aid to Egypt after the coups there in 2013. christx30 Jul 2016 #73

Erdogan is a thug. bdwker Jul 2016 #27

In Turkey, it's more like Bad and Worse. n/t Mopar151 Jul 2016 #32

Erdogan is an Islamist who kept weapons flowing to Isis AntiBank Jul 2016 #46

he bought oil from Isis until the Russians blew up the trucks, and kills off the Kurds in Turkey and larkrake Jul 2016 #144

I cannot imagine a coup being an event on net adverse to US security. David__77 Jul 2016 #97

Turkish military says it has taken over left-of-center2012 Jul 2016 #14

I called this way back in May. lordcommander Jul 2016 #19

"I called this way back in May" left-of-center2012 Jul 2016 #54

Nope. lordcommander Jul 2016 #134

I don't know enough to comment on whether this is a good thing or a bad thing; but, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #33

I think in Turkey is kind of is. Kali Jul 2016 #51

In Turkey, it sort of is. The goal of the military when they "intervene" is to MADem Jul 2016 #66

What will Trump say? left-of-center2012 Jul 2016 #16

He'd be better off keeping his trap shut--I doubt he could find Turkey on a map! nt MADem Jul 2016 #68

Where's the stuffing? nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #90

THREAD WIN!!!!! MADem Jul 2016 #115

Woo Hoo awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #116

Trump would say: left-of-center2012 Jul 2016 #121

In Ankara, Turkey, Reports of Gunfire and Tanks in Streets Amid "Military Intervention" bemildred Jul 2016 #17

Turkey's top general 'held hostage' at military HQ: state agency MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #21

could get ugly 6chars Jul 2016 #34

As Turtle Man would say, "Live Action!" yourpaljoey Jul 2016 #22

Erdogan must have been a lovuian Jul 2016 #24

Turkish President Erdogan safe, being taken to secret location by forces loyal to him MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #26

Not sure what country he's in, though muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #30

So would it be safe to guess..... HeartoftheMidwest Jul 2016 #59

Not necessarily - see #62 - Erdogan claims it's the Gulenists muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #64

Will do. HeartoftheMidwest Jul 2016 #71

It seems a given that Erdogan would seek to scapegoat someone for the coup. HeartoftheMidwest Jul 2016 #76

All I can think it means is: don't assume it's one faction rather than another muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #80

If that's the case, this'll be the first time the Turkish military has "lost." MADem Jul 2016 #120

Turkey army group announces takeover on TV bemildred Jul 2016 #31

Military is fed up with the Islamist direction that Ankara has been headed. Socal31 Jul 2016 #35

+10000 nt lordcommander Jul 2016 #41

Agree. Military tends to be secular. mainer Jul 2016 #49

Soldiers have reportedly taken control of state broadcaster TRT . - @Jakoben1789 MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #36

Civilians rush to withdraw money from ATM machines in #Turkey as military attempts coup. MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #37

Not necessarily a bad thing... BooScout Jul 2016 #38

U.S. SAYS ITS CITIZENS IN TURKEY SHOULD SHELTER IN PLACE MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #39

Facebook, Twitter And YouTube Blacked Out In Turkey Amid Fears Of Attempted Coup Purveyor Jul 2016 #40

A friend posted from Istanbul on FB about 10 minutes ago. bluedigger Jul 2016 #84

Announcer on Turkey's TRT says country is now run by a "Peace Council" MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Adsos Letter Jul 2016 #43

Turkish presidential source says #Turkey's democratically elected President Erdogan in power MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #44

Ha! Erdogan is reduced to skyping in!! MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #45

How embarrassing! NWCorona Jul 2016 #61

Chief of Turkey’s General Staff and a number of high level military officials taken hostage bemildred Jul 2016 #47

Not the first time this has happened, and likely not the last. MADem Jul 2016 #48

+10000000 mainer Jul 2016 #53

It's been awhile since that last one (late nineties, I think?) but it used to happen regularly. MADem Jul 2016 #55

Exactly! The Turks take a very long view of things and have a history that goes back thousands of Warpy Jul 2016 #89

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan 'flees country in private jet' after military launches coup bemildred Jul 2016 #50

Well, that's good news--that guy is a total shit. nt MADem Jul 2016 #72

I do get the feeling that Erdogan was taken by surprise. bemildred Jul 2016 #77

Yeah, he's blustering like mad as he runs like hell! MADem Jul 2016 #91

That is what it looks like, trying to bullshit his way through. bemildred Jul 2016 #93

LOL--that's it, exactly. The last coup (and they've all been successful) was in the late 90s, IIRC. MADem Jul 2016 #108

Our military was also caught completely flatfooted Warpy Jul 2016 #107

If we had a clue, we'd have been required to notify our NATO ally. MADem Jul 2016 #127

Turkish President Erdogan: Speaking on cell phone to CNN bemildred Jul 2016 #52

Interesting to see how this plays out rockfordfile Jul 2016 #56

it's free and live - deal with it. MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #57

There is no internet in Turkey at all right now--very hard to get info. MADem Jul 2016 #74

Strong explosion heard in Turkish capital Ankara: AFP MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #60

BBC says it's getting unconfirmed reports of copters firing on TV building (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #69

Erdoğan blames Gulenist network muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #62

The US has Gulen stashed in the Poconos AngryAmish Jul 2016 #75

Whether they are involved is far from clear muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #79

Forgive us for what? Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #103

Thank you. giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #128

+1,000! nt MADem Jul 2016 #130

Twitter Feed al bupp Jul 2016 #63

I think we now know why Erdogan was trying to smooth things out with Russia and Israel. NWCorona Jul 2016 #65

Turkish Public Broadcaster Under Heavy Gunfire From Helicopters bemildred Jul 2016 #70

State-Run Rews Agency Reports Military Helicopters Have Attacked Headquarters Of TURKSAT Satellite Purveyor Jul 2016 #78

Turkey's state-run Anadolu Agency reporting military helicopter has attacked Ankara police headquart bemildred Jul 2016 #81

US State Dept tells Americans in #Turkey NOT to go to US Embassy and to shelter in place. MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #82

Smart move--the Turkish military is probably not going to fiddle-fart around. MADem Jul 2016 #101

BBC reports Reuters says Turkish TV (!) claims jet has shot down helicopter muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #94

Turkish F-16s shoot down helicopter carrying 'coup plotters': NTV television MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #96

Holy Cow. uawchild Jul 2016 #98

There was a crash of a military helicopter in Turkey a week and a half ago. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2016 #149

updates from RT uawchild Jul 2016 #99

updates from BBC uawchild Jul 2016 #100

Anadolu: Jets seeking to engage rebel helicopters over Ankara uawchild Jul 2016 #102

two guesses DonCoquixote Jul 2016 #104

News saying Erdogan has fled to Germany. ??? misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #105

A reclusive religious scholar in Pennsylvania may be behind the attempted coup in Turkey uawchild Jul 2016 #106

Turkish parliament in Ankara hit by bombing: state news agency MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #109

This will not end well uawchild Jul 2016 #110

If it's not over by 12:00 UTC on Saturday, then it's shit meet fan time MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #111

Erdogan seems to be regaining control uawchild Jul 2016 #112

This is crazy. romanic Jul 2016 #113

Large explosion in #Ankara in the last few minutes. MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #117

Was that the helicopter carrying the coup leaders being shot down? nt MADem Jul 2016 #122

Don't think so, doesn't fit the timeline MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #123

I still don't know what's going on!! MADem Jul 2016 #129

I might have high standards re: crushing coups MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #131

If he prevails, there are gonna be executions a-plenty...and it will be that much harder for MADem Jul 2016 #138

and there is a cat in the photo....i hope it is ok Alameda Jul 2016 #132

That cat is looking at that cop like "What are you doing in MY neighborhood? These streets are MINE MADem Jul 2016 #139

Graphic video of casualties in front of the main Turkish armed forces HQ MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #118

damn AntiBank Jul 2016 #126

Just read on Al Jazeera that the coup had failed... Deuce Jul 2016 #124

Well it's not going swimmingly, but it's not quite over yet. MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #125

Good: this is a very bad way to form a government. cpwm17 Jul 2016 #133

It's different in Turkey Warpy Jul 2016 #137

Seems like the coup failed - good. n/t Little Tich Jul 2016 #140

Erdogan is an Islamist who's has secretly sided with ISIS brentspeak Jul 2016 #141

Erdogan can be removed from office by popular vote - how do you vote to remove a military junta? n/t Little Tich Jul 2016 #142

Are you serious? Democat Jul 2016 #145

Yes, a good thing! Here's to hoping Erdogan cleans up the mess. harun Jul 2016 #146

Live Reddit news feed (some unconfirmed) steve2470 Jul 2016 #143

07:00 UTC : Coup btfo MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #147

love images rafeh1 Jul 2016 #148