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beevul

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34. Wrong, and thank you for allowing Me to prove it.

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:53 PM

Jul 2016

Its a popular anti-gun talking point though, I'll give you that.

There have been quite a number of them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia

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Munich shooting: Police say nine dead as manhunt continues [View all] MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 OP

And I just finished reading this NWCorona Jul 2016 #1

That is really chilling yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #4

Animals gotta do what animals do. nt Lucky Luciano Jul 2016 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Jul 2016 #6

There's always a purpose. FigTree Jul 2016 #33

No, its NOT "in our nature". Its IS the nature of animals. 7962 Jul 2016 #38

We are animals, evolved from animals. Our brain is a wonderful thing, but it does not insulate us Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #51

I certainly agree with your last sentence. And its coming. 7962 Jul 2016 #54

The reigning in of "Muslim MEN coming in from areas" is a loss of freedom. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #58

Its not a loss of freedom for Germans. And its their country. 7962 Jul 2016 #77

Are you intentionally channeling Trump? karynnj Jul 2016 #157

ANd how many of those native born citizens have been committing these attacks? 7962 Jul 2016 #158

Maybe they should build a wall Spacedog1973 Jul 2016 #165

They dont need a wall if they enforce their borders. 7962 Jul 2016 #174

He was born and raised in Munich karynnj Jul 2016 #175

If German women live in fear of being raped are they free? Democat Jul 2016 #83

Humans ARE animals. We are primates and mammals. MineralMan Jul 2016 #81

Omnivores - sometimes I have salad before the meat. But I recall information that said switching to 24601 Jul 2016 #167

More like the line from "Revenge Of The Nerds." Aristus Jul 2016 #7

From MIB: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #35

several people reportedly killed rollin74 Jul 2016 #3

One dead, 10 injured in shooting at Munich shopping centre: police source oberliner Jul 2016 #5

No word on the shooter yet? (n/t) leftynyc Jul 2016 #9

Not that I've heard or seen oberliner Jul 2016 #10

I was hoping the dead leftynyc Jul 2016 #13

*beep beep beep* GummyBearz Jul 2016 #31

None of us knows philosslayer Jul 2016 #42

Yea GummyBearz Jul 2016 #47

There are three shooters MosheFeingold Jul 2016 #73

And the truth should not be sacrificed on the alter of expediency philosslayer Jul 2016 #109

Everyone keeps saying there are three christx30 Jul 2016 #121

Here's a video of a german screaming insults at the shooter ansible Jul 2016 #36

And a few more choice terms MosheFeingold Jul 2016 #78

Another DU thread says that the shopping center Democat Jul 2016 #48

There's a live news stream from Sky News about it here ansible Jul 2016 #8

MSNBC has it up--video of people running, shots being heard in shopping center, MADem Jul 2016 #11

Europe proves again that even moderate gun control isn't enough. nt onehandle Jul 2016 #12

Because a couple shootings are way worse than multiple daily shoots here? n/t FreeState Jul 2016 #15

Ha! Germany has very restrictive gun laws, hardly "moderate". 7962 Jul 2016 #45

Germany has among the toughest laws on the planet. Kurska Jul 2016 #76

Against gun owners? That one would love it. Marengo Jul 2016 #97

Don't confuse the standard with the aberration-- it's a fallacy to do so. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #125

That's an American pastime: lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #146

Europe proves again that gun control is useless Angel Martin Jul 2016 #130

Germany’s Muencher Abendzeitung newspaper is reporting that up to 15 people have been killed brooklynite Jul 2016 #14

FYI: mindestens means "at least". xocet Jul 2016 #57

The police aren't sure, but they have witness reports of three different armed persons Yo_Mama Jul 2016 #65

All of these lone wolves are really starting to add up. nt B2G Jul 2016 #16

Sky News reports that it's not a lone wolf this time. Three different people are involved totodeinhere Jul 2016 #69

when is enough enough? MariaThinks Jul 2016 #80

Someone will be here soon to blame America Democat Jul 2016 #17

Trump will blame Obama. Ilsa Jul 2016 #70

No more and no less than someone will be here soon to blame Muslims. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #126

Yep romanic Jul 2016 #147

But...but...but...these things don't happen in nations and places with strict gun control. beevul Jul 2016 #18

True, Australia hasn't had a mass shooting since they past their tough gun control 20 years ago IamTheNoodle Jul 2016 #23

Wrong, and thank you for allowing Me to prove it. beevul Jul 2016 #34

You knew it was coming, didnt you. nt 7962 Jul 2016 #46

Well... beevul Jul 2016 #116

It's fun to pretend the statistical norm and the aberration are the same thing. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #127

Apples and oranges are also fun to compare. beevul Jul 2016 #134

Another fun fact: There are now almost as many guns there as before the "ban" 7962 Jul 2016 #151

Except your wrong, before reform the prior 18 years saw 13 mass shootings, 104 dead IamTheNoodle Jul 2016 #60

"defined as five or more victims killed by gunshot" sarisataka Jul 2016 #103

I wonder... beevul Jul 2016 #122

No, I'm NOT wrong. beevul Jul 2016 #120

Six of the eleven since the Port Arthur massacre were not shootings ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #152

Did someone say they weren't? beevul Jul 2016 #154

They're doing a hell of a lot better than we are ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #156

Yeah, but its NOT because of their gun control. beevul Jul 2016 #180

Sadly, that is quite untrue. Yo_Mama Jul 2016 #43

Australia is also an island in the South Pacific. NuclearDem Jul 2016 #132

Unfortunaly they've had three fairly recently Recursion Jul 2016 #145

terrible JennyHot Jul 2016 #19

welcome to the new normal Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #20

Incidents such as this fuel the rise of right wing governments in free societies, Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #21

We keep funding Wahhabism IamTheNoodle Jul 2016 #24

The U.S. Government gave a total of $1,472,410 to Saudi Arabia in 2012: Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #30

Check out the weapon systems we sell Saudi Arabia IamTheNoodle Jul 2016 #32

The operative word is "sell." Selling a weapon system does not support Wahhabism. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #40

And yet we place sanctions and boycotts in place against South Africa and other nations Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #111

Oil. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #115

Are you blaming obama for this? Really? GummyBearz Jul 2016 #41

I know, its silly. Instead of blaming who ALWAYS SEEM TO BE THE ONES DOING IT 7962 Jul 2016 #52

America, Bush, or Obama Democat Jul 2016 #62

U.S. policy is partly to blame for the rise of Islamic fundamentalism IamTheNoodle Jul 2016 #67

"Supporting the House of Saud via $60 billion weapon deals while they support Wahhabism" EX500rider Jul 2016 #144

And liberals who deny there is a problem help right wingers gain power Democat Jul 2016 #26

^^^^^this hawkeyeman Jul 2016 #44

Amen! "Selective outrage" I call it. 7962 Jul 2016 #56

I don't think that most liberals deny there is a problem. But it's also true that right wingers totodeinhere Jul 2016 #75

The same liberals that thought unrestricted immigration into the EU was a good idea? ansible Jul 2016 #82

On DU many deny there is any problem Democat Jul 2016 #87

Yep get the red out Jul 2016 #96

Oh, if THAT was the case there'd be 15 OPs with 1000 rec's!! 7962 Jul 2016 #105

"When a a few police officers shoot black men, many on DU are outraged at all police." True but pampango Jul 2016 #128

And that is exactly what the terrorists want. They want a religious war and so do our right totodeinhere Jul 2016 #71

#Munich police say they believe more than one shooter is involved; no one taken into custody yet. MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #22

That's not good at all. nt B2G Jul 2016 #25

Munich police: 'We believe we are dealing with a shooting rampage' melman Jul 2016 #27

CBSN reporting second shooting in Munich jpak Jul 2016 #28

What will the response be? Changing facebook profile to German flag colors? IamTheNoodle Jul 2016 #29

Teddy bears and candles help as well. Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2016 #53

'Second shooting in Munich' oberliner Jul 2016 #37

Shooting at Stachus false alarm muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #100

It seems very ominous - city is shutting down. Yo_Mama Jul 2016 #39

Could they have gotten away by subway? spinbaby Jul 2016 #131

Police does not know anything. OldEurope Jul 2016 #49

Is it true the shopping center is on the site of the 1972 Olympics? Democat Jul 2016 #50

It is near, two stations of subway. OldEurope Jul 2016 #59

I wonder if it's connected or a coincidence Democat Jul 2016 #63

I don't think so, but... OldEurope Jul 2016 #66

Twitter is even more reliable than the police at this point ansible Jul 2016 #55

OMG that is so cold. n/t musicblind Jul 2016 #61

Nonsense OldEurope Jul 2016 #64

Hes moving around, there's also a video of him being insulted by a bavarian ansible Jul 2016 #74

Obviously you're sympathising with the murderer. I'll ignore you. OldEurope Jul 2016 #79

I'm not, you're in denial ansible Jul 2016 #88

What's with the right wing link? rockfordfile Jul 2016 #118

That guy is a right wing idiot rockfordfile Jul 2016 #117

In that picture he's looking straight into the camera rockfordfile Jul 2016 #102

it looks like he's just shit his pants in this picture. n/t Calista241 Jul 2016 #159

Six confirmed dead, all public transport stopped, taxis told not to pick up fares Yo_Mama Jul 2016 #85

Noone confirmed dead. OldEurope Jul 2016 #90

Bavarian Radio says six dead. Yo_Mama Jul 2016 #93

According to police now, "at least six dead". I see why Yo_Mama Jul 2016 #101

We'll just stay at home. Weekend. OldEurope Jul 2016 #104

CNN: Second police operation underway in center of Munich melman Jul 2016 #68

No confirmation, only rumors. (n/t) OldEurope Jul 2016 #72

9 times of out 10 in these situations there is no 2nd shooter bluestateguy Jul 2016 #84

At least two of the recent attacks carried out in France did involve more than one shooter however. totodeinhere Jul 2016 #89

Sky news pointed out anniversary of Breivik attack - July 22 suffragette Jul 2016 #86

Can't be ruled out at the moment that the attacker(s) are RW terrorists MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #94

Yes, it's also the case this is a Friday evening attack, similar to Paris. suffragette Jul 2016 #98

Now police confirmed: OldEurope Jul 2016 #91

Police in US confirmed multiple shooters in Dallas, Baton Rouge alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #95

I trust our police. OldEurope Jul 2016 #99

Looks like the same mistake: only one shooter, claimed to be more than one alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #155

Munich declares citywide emergency brooklynite Jul 2016 #92

Targeting Children, Motherfuckers............... Old Vet Jul 2016 #106

Trump is not running for PM of Germany oberliner Jul 2016 #107

Really? Trump will be roaring the question: "do we want that to happen here?! " nt jonno99 Jul 2016 #108

My thoughts exactly........... Old Vet Jul 2016 #110

he won't if the attacker/s aren't Muslim wheniwasincongress Jul 2016 #112

It has happened here. Yavin4 Jul 2016 #113

it will SheriffBob Jul 2016 #166

It would be nice if Angel Martin Jul 2016 #135

UPDATE: Report of 2nd shooting at Marienplatz brooklynite Jul 2016 #114

Nonsense. nt OldEurope Jul 2016 #119

With all transit shut down, I wonder how many people are stranded suffragette Jul 2016 #123

There is an action: OldEurope Jul 2016 #124

I'm glad for that. Community against the fear. suffragette Jul 2016 #136

Per CNN: christx30 Jul 2016 #129

She might have made up the part about his quote. 6chars Jul 2016 #138

It's possible. christx30 Jul 2016 #139

that last quote is a clue. 6chars Jul 2016 #140

Yeah, I thought that was strange too. christx30 Jul 2016 #141

You don't need a translator for that. 6chars Jul 2016 #142

German-Iranian. LisaL Jul 2016 #160

9 dead now (perpetrator?). joshcryer Jul 2016 #133

Police told: OldEurope Jul 2016 #137

Munich police:Shooting suspects have Islamist background melman Jul 2016 #143

The attacker was an 18-year-old German of Iranian descent suffragette Jul 2016 #148

so if he is a right winger, he's not the typical german one 6chars Jul 2016 #149

They're going through his life with a fine toothed comb Warpy Jul 2016 #153

I have no idea where this "right-winger" claim even comes from. LisaL Jul 2016 #161

Shouting "fucking Turks!" seems like a right wing thing muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #163

He didn't say that melman Jul 2016 #164

No, the shooter said it muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #168

The Guardian's own transcript says different melman Jul 2016 #170

The widely quoted transcript, at the link the Guardian gives, attributes that to the shooter muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #171

I think that exchange might hold some clues to his mindset suffragette Jul 2016 #177

From the police TubbersUK Jul 2016 #176

To the surprise of almost no one. n/t christx30 Jul 2016 #150

It seems quite surprising to me - Iranians are fighting ISIS, for instance muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #162

WTF are you taking about? joshcryer Jul 2016 #172

What is not surprising? That he was a mentally ill teenage German, or that he was of Iranian descent LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #178

Update from press conference: OldEurope Jul 2016 #169

So it was a mental case who studied spree killings. joshcryer Jul 2016 #173

Awful LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #179