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In reply to the discussion: United CEO apologizes after video of O'Hare passenger dragged from flight goes viral [View all]jberryhill
(62,444 posts)157. It's about the required rest *before* flying
The flight duty period can be up to 14 hours...
https://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=13272
Flight duty period. The allowable length of a flight duty period depends on when the pilots day begins and the number of flight segments he or she is expected to fly, and ranges from 9-14 hours for single crew operations. The flight duty period begins when a flightcrew member is required to report for duty, with the intention of conducting a flight and ends when the aircraft is parked after the last flight. It includes the period of time before a flight or between flights that a pilot is working without an intervening rest period. Flight duty includes deadhead transportation, training in an aircraft or flight simulator, and airport standby or reserve duty if these tasks occur before a flight or between flights without an intervening required rest period.
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10-hour minimum rest period.The rule sets a 10-hour minimum rest period prior to the flight duty period, a two-hour increase over the old rules. The new rule also mandates that a pilot must have an opportunity for eight hours of uninterrupted sleep within the 10-hour rest period.
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When the schedule is disrupted, then in order to make up for people and equipment in the wrong places, there are crew members who are nearing the end of their duty period, and crew members who are timing out on their rest periods. Either of those events grounds them until another 10 hour rest period has gone by.
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United CEO apologizes after video of O'Hare passenger dragged from flight goes viral [View all]
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