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70. If only she had some kind of influence within the DNC...

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DNC allies incensed by Clinton criticism [View all] Omaha Steve Jun 2017 OP

aren't those the same allies that got her the nomination? mdbl Jun 2017 #1

Very. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #12

Voters gave her the nomination...millions of them. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #14

Exactly. zentrum Jun 2017 #16

Nope people gave it to her joeybee12 Jun 2017 #18

Well that and all the Superdelegates nm MichMan Jun 2017 #112

No, even counting the superdelegates... Steven Maurer Jun 2017 #116

Ugh! Doug the Dem Jun 2017 #2

Ahhhhh... The Hill and good old dissent-sowing BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #3

But is it real dissent? Also, can people process more than one story at a time? yurbud Jun 2017 #86

The process of revitalization should not be trivialized into "he-said, she said". nt BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #92

It should be based on accurate information though, which is relevant yurbud Jun 2017 #95

Correct. But the OP article author added emotional/subjective overtones, negating any added value BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #98

The problem bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #4

How did they target us? zentrum Jun 2017 #17

Wow. bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #23

Because Twitter is a internet sewer of BS rumors. former9thward Jun 2017 #124

Just stop. Squinch Jun 2017 #5

Oh geesh :( mwooldri Jun 2017 #6

Just as people are entitled to defend themselves and their careers when she calls them out BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #21

And if she had won bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #7

That is untrue. There are not enough votes in the Senate. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #15

Anyone who said that clearly didn't listen to what Sec Clinton actuallly said in her interview.... Docreed2003 Jun 2017 #8

Agreed. delisen Jun 2017 #9

Exactly. nt SunSeeker Jun 2017 #26

Yup ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #63

Well said. People are determined to cultivate a narrative about HRC, using any opportunity they get. StevieM Jun 2017 #73

I have to agree with you and with HRC - the database had been neglected csziggy Jun 2017 #121

Wow...excellent post... Docreed2003 Jun 2017 #122

Agree needs to be OP! RockCreek Jun 2017 #126

#fakenews stonecutter357 Jun 2017 #10

CNN: Democrats to Clinton: The DNC's data was fine -- you just used it wrong Omaha Steve Jun 2017 #11

Just wow. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #13

Too bad Andrew still doesn't have a job joeybee12 Jun 2017 #19

I would assume that if he were still working there, he would have used less inflammatory language karynnj Jun 2017 #25

very nice summary. scipan Jun 2017 #80

It wasn't just the DNC. zentrum Jun 2017 #20

I can tell you as a call banker into the swing states, the call lists and down times were less than still_one Jun 2017 #30

According to Sec Clinton tazkcmo Jun 2017 #22

Seeing as how the DNC was openly hostile to her for generations AngryAmish Jun 2017 #62

Not sure exactly what everyone is talking about but DURHAM D Jun 2017 #24

I think it was VERY important Hillary said what she said. She has now challenged the DNC to prove OnDoutside Jun 2017 #27

Who gives a f**k. Hillary has every right to speak out based on the bullshit she has had to put up still_one Jun 2017 #28

I agree about the call bank lists. REALLY out of date/inaccurate. SunSeeker Jun 2017 #34

It was quite frustrating. I agree with your analysis completely sun still_one Jun 2017 #38

Data she did not receive almost certainly contributed to the loss. LonePirate Jun 2017 #29

Hillary did not blame her loss on the DNC. She merely stated a fact. SunSeeker Jun 2017 #31

nothing is ever Hillary's fault, everyone else is always to blame geek tragedy Jun 2017 #32

It sounds like she's starting with the little stuff and getting to the big stuff. ucrdem Jun 2017 #33

so far her list of people to blame for her failed campaign geek tragedy Jun 2017 #37

She took the blame that night. I don't object to further analysis. ucrdem Jun 2017 #45

her side of the story is entirely self-serving. No "please avoid my mistakes" lessons to impart geek tragedy Jun 2017 #48

Still I'd like to know how it went down. ucrdem Jun 2017 #53

there is a lot she can tell us. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #55

There's an entire industry devoted to giving the other side, and then some. nt ucrdem Jun 2017 #57

Russia/Comey is also not lacking for voices. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #60

Will you also object to Comey giving testimony because its self-serving? ucrdem Jun 2017 #61

Comey is a fact witness to potential obstruction of justice. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #64

He could be equally factual in a closed session, but no. ucrdem Jun 2017 #67

She did take responsibility but we all know there were a lot of factors- she discussed them all. bettyellen Jun 2017 #46

What mistakes/errors did she admit? geek tragedy Jun 2017 #49

domyou have a quote saying her own mistakes didn't factor in? I didn't hear that. bettyellen Jun 2017 #51

"'I take responsibility for every decision I made, but that's not why I lost'." geek tragedy Jun 2017 #52

Weird because I actually agree with her on this. At one point she admits Americans wanted the lies.. bettyellen Jun 2017 #58

ignoring Wisconsin and Michigan was whose fault, exactly? geek tragedy Jun 2017 #59

The thing is, you can point to a dozen mistakes. Basically any one of them bettyellen Jun 2017 #66

except she explicitly denied that she did anything that caused her to lose the race. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #69

She said that they did fuck up and didn't realize their data was off- what's not true there? bettyellen Jun 2017 #71

Not campaigning in Wisconsin or Michigan is her fault, hers and her campaign strategists. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #72

Again, you're focusing on one of a dozen mistakes. If it makes you feel better, great. bettyellen Jun 2017 #74

what matters is how we win future elections. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #75

she already acknowledged that mistakes were made or is she always to bang on about .. JHan Jun 2017 #77

"Regrets, I've had a few. But then again, too few to mention." nt geek tragedy Jun 2017 #81

I think the collusion between Russia and the GOP is a huge issue- more important than any bettyellen Jun 2017 #78

Russia/Collusion is a huge issue. But Hillary Clinton is the very last person geek tragedy Jun 2017 #82

even though she was the victim of it? lol JHan Jun 2017 #83

We were all the victims of it. nt geek tragedy Jun 2017 #88

And "we" as Democrats had no means to counter the weaponization of data by Bannon and Co. JHan Jun 2017 #114

I disagree completely. To silence her is playing into their framing. bettyellen Jun 2017 #84

the last thing that will ever happen is someone silencing Hillary Clinton. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #87

People have been trying to silence her and that's part of how we got here. bettyellen Jun 2017 #90

free country, she can say whatever she wants, but she's not guaranteed geek tragedy Jun 2017 #91

I've actually had lots of productive discussions about the effect of misogyny last year... bettyellen Jun 2017 #93

discussions of misogyny should absolutely continue, geek tragedy Jun 2017 #94

That the most transparent candidate the field was smeared with false allegations of cronyism bettyellen Jun 2017 #96

Tr*mp figured out that most WWC voters really don't care about things like transparency, ethics, geek tragedy Jun 2017 #97

"Cultural anxiety" was their big excuse yet we shouldn't talk about it... bettyellen Jun 2017 #99

Same as that demographic has been since 1860--never on the right side of history nt geek tragedy Jun 2017 #100

Who is silencing her? karynnj Jun 2017 #115

She hasn't excused herself of any blame. But at some point, it's okay R B Garr Jun 2017 #125

She still loses the election if she had won MI & WI. She lost PA despite campaigning heavily there. LonePirate Jun 2017 #109

I wondered if she had used Obama enough but I don't think it would have helped with those voters. bettyellen Jun 2017 #111

"A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest" emulatorloo Jun 2017 #85

Simple question: who would the GOP rather be the public face of the Democratic party geek tragedy Jun 2017 #89

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #101

in chart form geek tragedy Jun 2017 #102

If the goal is to protect Booker from being smeared by the GOP's and the BoB's then emulatorloo Jun 2017 #106

Goal is to protect our candidates in 2017 and 2018. nt geek tragedy Jun 2017 #117

Then HRC can keep the BoB's and the Breitbart's distracted this year and the next emulatorloo Jun 2017 #118

Did they poll people who regret not voting? Because the apathy bettyellen Jun 2017 #110

To be blunt, politicians are useful instruments to achieving geek tragedy Jun 2017 #119

Hillary did take responsibility for her mistakes, but that part is not shown in news clips. SunSeeker Jun 2017 #42

saying "I take responsibility" is not the same thing as actually taking responsibility. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #44

The Comey letter decapitated her campaign. SunSeeker Jun 2017 #47

Polls were tightening before the Comey letter. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #50

It would not have been close if Comey had reported he was investigating the Trump campaign. SunSeeker Jun 2017 #56

Correct...but those anemic favorability ratings are still all about misogyny and media bias BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #54

Agree with the poster above about GOTV . . FairWinds Jun 2017 #35

The DNC was a mess. it is not a sin to say that out loud. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #36

It was. And we had a chair who went to the NY times and insulted millennials for no good reason Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #107

Who is the former DNC aide, Gabbard? obamanut2012 Jun 2017 #39

I was watching Morning Joe this morning and was really surprised when underthematrix Jun 2017 #40

Yes, that struck me too. nt SunSeeker Jun 2017 #43

I did a quick search newblewtoo Jun 2017 #68

OMG!!! THEY MUST BE RUSSIAN!!! QC Jun 2017 #41

Frankly, I think that's cherry picking out of a long interview. LisaM Jun 2017 #65

If only she had some kind of influence within the DNC... killbotfactory Jun 2017 #70

You know what? They both are responsible. Else You Are Mad Jun 2017 #76

Where was all this consternation when other individuals were attacking the DNC outright? JHan Jun 2017 #79

If anyone else used the exact same words as HRC, they'd be lauded for trying to advance the DNC. Bleacher Creature Jun 2017 #103

I agree with the DNC on this one. Bradical79 Jun 2017 #104

Everyone from Harry Reid on down seems to agree on, DWS was "Worthless" as DNC chair. His words. Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #105

"I mean it (the DNC) was bankrupt, it was on the verge of insolvency" That Guy 888 Jun 2017 #108

"DNC" allies? I"m sure The Hill could find some if they really wanted to. SharonClark Jun 2017 #113

Politico's Take..Dems must evaluate ourselves, or we will Alice11111 Jun 2017 #120

The criticism of the DNC is warranted. alarimer Jun 2017 #123

Omaha Steve incensed by Clinton's existence emulatorloo Jun 2017 #127

Last weeks news Omaha Steve Jun 2017 #128

I know you did. You would never toss emulatorloo Jun 2017 #129

Truth does hurt. but...proceed. nikibatts Jun 2017 #130