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happyslug

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3. Problems with this report.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 10:28 AM
Jul 2012

First is this COMMENT made in the Actual Report on page 10:

Note that as a technical potential, rather than economic or market potential, these estimates do not consider availability of transmission infrastructure, costs, reliability or time-of-dispatch, current or future electricity loads, or relevant policies. Further, as this analysis does not allocate land for use by a particular technology, the same land area may be the basis for estimates of multiple technologies (i.e., non-excluded land is assumed to be available to support development of more than one technology).


Appendix B. Energy Consumption by State
Electric retail sales in the United States were roughly 3,754 TWh in 2010 (EIA).

Appendix B. Energy Consumption by State
Electric retail sales in the United States were roughly 3,754 TWh in 2010 (EIA).


Table ES-1. Total Estimated U.S. Technical Potential Generation and Capacity by Technology
Technology
.................................Generation Potential.......Capacity Potential
...............................................(TWh)....................(GW)
Urban utility-scale PV.... ..............2,200....................1,200
Rural utility-scale PV.................280,600.................153,000
Rooftop PV...................................800.......................664
Concentrating solar power.........116,100...................38,000
Onshore wind power..................32,700..................11,000
Offshore wind power.................17,000....................4,200
Biopower....................................500.........................62
Hydrothermal power systems..........300.........................38
Enhanced geothermal systems....31,300.....................4,000
Hydropower.................................300..........................60

Note a TWh is a Terrawatt per hour (10 to the 12th power) while a GW is a Gigawatt, which is only 10 to the ninth power).

Also "Capacity Potential" is what can be produced RIGHT NOW, "Generation potential" is what is produced for the whole year.

Thus the biggest potential source of solar power is from rural areas, i.e. covering farmlands with solar panels, i.e. replacing food for electricity (In the study parks, mountains, rivers, lakes and other similar areas were deemed NOT available for use, thus a heavy concentration in the South West due to the vast amount of land owned by the Federal Governmental Bureau of Land Management (BLM) but Federal Forests, Parks, reserves, wildlife sanctuaries were excluded),

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Yeah, but how are the energy moguls gonna make money? Scuba Jul 2012 #1
Yes, because making those rich people richer is the MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THE WORLD. nt valerief Jul 2012 #31
I have only one concern about solar Marrah_G Jul 2012 #2
If you google home energy storage you'll see that Solar City has a lithium ion system available now. truthisfreedom Jul 2012 #8
Nice- thank you :) Marrah_G Jul 2012 #26
It can also be stored as compressed air, water pumped to a height, in a heated or chilled solution.. DCKit Jul 2012 #11
How about just pushing it into the "grid"? xtraxritical Jul 2012 #14
With so many distributed options, you don't have to "push" anything onto the grid. DCKit Aug 2012 #38
I had no idea there were so many options! Marrah_G Jul 2012 #27
I haven't read other responses but if I may weigh in jonthebru Jul 2012 #13
Hard to imagine elsewhere in the US, but the clouds rarely cover the sun JDPriestly Jul 2012 #18
I agree- we need to get the heck away from fossil fuels Marrah_G Jul 2012 #28
These estimates are from a good source. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #17
I would love to see wind, solar and water as the primary means of power someday soon Marrah_G Jul 2012 #29
Use excess solar power to run giant outdoor fans during the day 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #41
Problems with this report. happyslug Jul 2012 #3
every party's got to have a pooper leftyohiolib Jul 2012 #6
A carbon tax could and should help pay for the cost. n/t Uncle Joe Jul 2012 #12
China and Germany are gradually moving toward solar. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #20
The purpose of my comment was to put this report in prespective happyslug Jul 2012 #24
We will be undergoing a major restructuring of our society over the next few decades regardless of Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #45
Cost? The Doctor. Jul 2012 #4
The report clearly states costs were NOT considered. happyslug Jul 2012 #5
What did it "cost" to build railroad lines across the US? JDPriestly Jul 2012 #22
$20Trillion in round numbers One_Life_To_Give Aug 2012 #42
Hey, solar could be used to subsidize the oil companies and everyone would be happy. nt Kablooie Jul 2012 #7
The biggest problem with solar... JohnnyRingo Jul 2012 #9
Quck! Here comes Rmoney to make sure we "level the playing field" by cutting any support/credits for AllyCat Jul 2012 #10
Yes, but will solar powered cars make loud "vroom" noises? primavera Jul 2012 #15
I would point out many of the "vroomiest" cars are not "Amurikan." nt Codeine Jul 2012 #34
Second problem, electricy generation is only 16% of the energy used in the US. happyslug Jul 2012 #16
The day of the electric car will come sooner than you think. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #23
The electric car will come, but most people will replace they gas jobs with a bicycle happyslug Jul 2012 #35
Interesting ideas, of course, bicycles are not practical for many people over 65. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #37
As to Streetcars, I use to live on the last Streetcar line in Pittsburgh. happyslug Aug 2012 #39
Very interesting. I live in an area that was first developed as a suburb in the period JDPriestly Aug 2012 #44
A mere $120Trillion installed One_Life_To_Give Aug 2012 #43
Stop Building Coal Plants. Stop Licensing Nuke Plants and Go Renewable triplepoint Jul 2012 #19
Too bad it's about 30 years too late to make a difference NickB79 Jul 2012 #21
DID YOU KNOW???? DreamSmoker Jul 2012 #25
Sunpower rks306 Jul 2012 #30
This is awesome news. Dont call me Shirley Jul 2012 #32
Renewables are not a small portion of our power supply at almost 12% Sirveri Jul 2012 #33
12% of 14% is still is only 1.68% happyslug Aug 2012 #40
awesome we can stop the fracking now right? limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #36
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