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Ford_Prefect

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18. I never said they were clever nor implied a conspiracy. The evidence at the time of his statement
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:40 PM
Oct 2017

didn't support Hoover's official public conclusion nor could it at that point in the investigation.

It has been clear for some time that Hoover like other officials of that day was afraid that if the public came to believe that conspiracy was possible there would be riots and other dire public consequences. At that time he was on record as viewing the Civil Rights movement as capable of fomenting riots and insurrection in their cause as well as being a communist supported front group.

Hoover had seen the labor riots, the veteran's riots, the miner's riots and strikes and seemed to feel that were a large enough section of the public sufficiently motivated by the idea that someone in power was responsible they could bring down government. Although I never trusted him I have to say he was likely right about that last observation.

My opinion, for what it is worth, is that whatever Oswald did actually do he was neither alone nor unexpected. He either had assistance directly or was duped, and that the setting for the parade was staged to allow his success, or that of someone else acting in the same capacity. I do not know who arranged these events nor if Oswald was a knowing participant.

I don't know if anyone else was on the grassy knoll or in another building but the idea that only one shooter did this is ridiculous on the face of it. It was certainly clear during The House Assassinations Committee hearings that more went on than could be explained by Hoover's hypothesis.

I do not presume to know who arranged it all. One can speculate on Cui bono and on various contentions about which elements of the Right Wing, the MIC, or the Oil industry may have colluded to bring about regime change, or to stop what they feared was capitulation to the USSR.

...and I have always trusted Hoover. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #1
Who can blame you! sandensea Oct 2017 #3
They didn't trust him. They had pictures of him wearing tutus. yardwork Oct 2017 #15
That's the very thing I was getting at. sandensea Oct 2017 #20
One of members of the Warren Commission, Hale Boggs, dflprincess Oct 2017 #2
Boggs, like the great Paul Wellstone, met similar fates as you know. sandensea Oct 2017 #4
And, the conspiracy theories begin again... brooklynite Oct 2017 #6
Same Hale Boggs whose small airplane crashed in Alaska. Interesting. Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2017 #5
What are they covering up not releasing everything?! burrowowl Oct 2017 #7
Among God knows how many other things, sandensea Oct 2017 #8
Yup! burrowowl Oct 2017 #9
They will never release everything. This Hoover story is getting attention, but it is old news. Midnight Writer Oct 2017 #10
CIA was trying to frame Oswald as a KGB spy... AntiFascist Oct 2017 #21
CIA/Dulles brothers. nt Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #25
Always fun to twist such words... TomVilmer Oct 2017 #11
Given that Hoover had no evidence to base the claim on at the time he issued the memo... Ford_Prefect Oct 2017 #12
He made a written statement of intent... TomVilmer Oct 2017 #17
I never said they were clever nor implied a conspiracy. The evidence at the time of his statement Ford_Prefect Oct 2017 #18
Unsuccessful get the red out Oct 2017 #13
But in his defense cubbies01 Oct 2017 #14
I will always believe it was Allen Dulles that ordered it Javaman Oct 2017 #16
Same here. sandensea Oct 2017 #19
K&R JonLP24 Oct 2017 #22
This item from the article would suggest the Russians already had heard about Operation Northwoods, Judi Lynn Oct 2017 #23
Excellent point, Judi. sandensea Oct 2017 #24
Good observation! burrowowl Nov 2017 #26
Thank you. sandensea Nov 2017 #28
Huh... DiverDave Nov 2017 #27
Not everyone agrees with the Official Story. sandensea Nov 2017 #30
Did Trump release the file that shows Ted Cruz' dad did it? lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #29
What he should do is release files pertaining to the plot to pin it on Castro sandensea Nov 2017 #31
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