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60. I think immediate and strong responses to minor offenses,

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 12:45 PM

Jan 2018

Like yelling "Stop!" in a crowded room, would be helpful in changing the culture.

For repeated advances in the workplace, reporting it and pursuing it legally make sense. Serious attacks (as opposed to a roaming hand that can easily be aborted with a loud and embarrassing outcry) require a serious, legal response.

All these will help change the culture.

What won't help is being too timid to say "stop it" with a single, isolated dirty joke or butt touch, then bringing it to HR. That just makes us all look worse.

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Condoleezza Rice on #MeToo: 'Let's not turn women into snowflakes' [View all] DonViejo Jan 2018 OP

Condi knows how to stay a member at Augusta National underpants Jan 2018 #1

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #2

When you call her the c word you call all women that word. DLevine Jan 2018 #3

Thank you... you beat me to it and I could not reply to a removed post. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2018 #4

Great reply to the bullshit you were replying to. Squinch Jan 2018 #5

While "C" may be harsh Liberalagogo Jan 2018 #15

Missing the attention are we, Condi? Ken Burch Jan 2018 #6

She is complicent in war crimes. irisblue Jan 2018 #7

Bush lies pusher says what? 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2018 #8

Time to get this out.. 47of74 Jan 2018 #9

Condi, Newt, Alan Dershowitz ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #10

That sounds pretty messed up, Rice. Stardust1 Jan 2018 #11

+1 2naSalit Jan 2018 #22

I think she may be talking about some of the allegations that are iffy. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #12

+1 Lucinda Jan 2018 #21

I agree. Raine1967 Jan 2018 #24

+1 n/t jaysunb Jan 2018 #36

Yep. nt Still Blue in PDX Jan 2018 #50

I agree with what you say PatSeg Jan 2018 #52

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #65

"Let's turn Iraqis into ash instead". Eom GusBob Jan 2018 #13

Condi Liberalagogo Jan 2018 #14

yes Skittles Jan 2018 #16

Yes. What strength of womanhood she displayed! tomp Jan 2018 #42

What we need is more righteous PEOPLE in politics Maeve Jan 2018 #47

agreed. nt tomp Jan 2018 #59

Or ignore warnings about an attack on the US by bin Laden.... llmart Jan 2018 #62

They also go shopping for expensive designer shoes while GoCubsGo Jan 2018 #63

Maybe call out the harassment, but don't worry about men christx30 Jan 2018 #17

She should be in jail n/t hibbing Jan 2018 #18

I agree with her on this point, depending on where the line is drawn. Chemisse Jan 2018 #19

+1 Raine1967 Jan 2018 #25

No, just no Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #31

Did I say it was okay to do that? Of course I didn't. Chemisse Jan 2018 #32

No, you didn't Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #37

It depends on the kiss. thesquanderer Jan 2018 #45

Totally agree. nt Still Blue in PDX Jan 2018 #51

Women should not have to curse and get physically aggressive at work or any where else Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #55

Yes they do need to exert self-control. Chemisse Jan 2018 #56

If you start cursing or getting aggressive, the guy could pull a gun, or get violent in response. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #57

I think immediate and strong responses to minor offenses, Chemisse Jan 2018 #60

Is it being timid or being smart? I don't have the answer. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #64

if Wonder Woman is a snowflake then count me in! samnsara Jan 2018 #20

Oh, go back to sleep, Condi rocktivity Jan 2018 #23

Honest question: Raine1967 Jan 2018 #26

Honest answer: Sure she has that right. EVERYBODY does. rocktivity Jan 2018 #29

Everybody has the right to speak. shanny Jan 2018 #33

agreed. known liar and facilitator of war crimes. nt. tomp Jan 2018 #43

i only came here to comment barbtries Jan 2018 #27

Young women around me say much the same thing! radhika Jan 2018 #28

+1 Chemisse Jan 2018 #30

Yes! nt Raine Jan 2018 #41

"Snowflakes"?! Couldnt she say what she has to say without using an inflammatory, RW put-down word Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2018 #34

every accusation should be heard and investigated. tomp Jan 2018 #44

yep, I would agree with that but my point was that perhaps it would be Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2018 #61

War Criminal shadowmayor Jan 2018 #35

she shares responsibility for over a million deaths yurbud Jan 2018 #38

Who? Cryptoad Jan 2018 #39

Stick with football, Condi Kristofer Bry Jan 2018 #40

I agree with some of what Condi said. rainlillie Jan 2018 #46

That is as good as admitting they are still dominant treestar Jan 2018 #48

I doubt it would be done with the intent to punish. Chemisse Jan 2018 #58

They could consider just not harassing treestar Jan 2018 #66

Or by not being alone with us to avoid accusations. moriah Jan 2018 #68

Right, the presumption they are going to be falsely accused treestar Jan 2018 #69

Yep. And in many industries management is still male-dominated. moriah Jan 2018 #70

Rice, you're not relevant. Go away. paleotn Jan 2018 #49

Don't you have a warning of a hostile attack to ignore, Condi? Paladin Jan 2018 #53

Your words carry NO weight. Not in my household. You fully Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 #54

''Well, maybe it's just better not to have women around.' I've heard a little bit of that." moriah Jan 2018 #67

Disagree.Let's turn women into snowflakes. So many snowflakes that the resulting blizzard onenote Jan 2018 #71