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45. You did well, but then veered off course again with a Red Herring and Straw Man fallacy.

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 01:32 PM

Feb 2018

Most conservatives, that I know of and read about and see on TV are quit like Nicholas Cruz. Yes,, absolutely. They love the power of holding a gun, showing it off to people and often have a tendency to use it as a means to make themselves appear tough.

So yes, absolutely, this is me expounding on my proposition that most conservatives are like Nicholas Cruz.

Where you make the Straw Man fallacy, is where you veer off into your own tangent about the meaning of what I said, which I didn't say. Then you continue with a Red Herring distraction that I'm saying that "people I disagree with politically," most conservatives, "are not much different to murderers." I never said that. You did.

Please. This is getting ridiculous. I would encourage you to brush up on your philosophy and reasoning skills before you make more bold fallacious statements.

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Florida mental health agency examined Cruz in 2016, didnt hospitalize him [View all] TomCADem Feb 2018 OP

But the FBI, but, but, but. Sneederbunk Feb 2018 #1

In WA state, a 48hr evaluation would have flagged him ineligible to buy a gun. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #2

Are you saying that anyone who had a MH eval. cannot buy a gun? dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 #13

I believe the key is involuntary sweetloukillbot Feb 2018 #23

It's also about Possession, so if they already own guns, they must find a conservator/custodian. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #32

48h or longer evaluation against the patient's will. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #31

I am heartbroken... cbreezen Feb 2018 #3

Maybe they're not able to foretell the future, marybourg Feb 2018 #4

Watch a few episodes of Cops... cbreezen Feb 2018 #5

Thanx, but that's not the world I live in. marybourg Feb 2018 #6

That is life... cbreezen Feb 2018 #7

"choosing not to help this kid" is factually incorrect. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 #33

I get all this, but to me it's easy access to the weapon he used hibbing Feb 2018 #8

+ agree iluvtennis Feb 2018 #10

Let's be real here. Cruz really isn't that much different from most conservatives. ffr Feb 2018 #9

Um, no. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #17

Muslims that Support ISIS ARE like ISIS . just as Conservatives that support Trump are like MAGA JI7 Feb 2018 #18

That's the worst kind of black and white thinking, as well as total lack of nuance. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #27

Straw Man fallacy. ffr Feb 2018 #37

What JI7 did is take the views of an extreme outlier and apply them to the main group. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #46

* Sigh * ffr Feb 2018 #48

Red Herring fallacy, you're putting words in my mouth and mischaracterizing my point ffr Feb 2018 #36

You said, and I quote... Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #43

You did well, but then veered off course again with a Red Herring and Straw Man fallacy. ffr Feb 2018 #45

Wow, you're splitting hairs mighty fine there, ffr. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #47

That's your 3rd fallacy, another Straw Man. ffr Feb 2018 #50

Okay. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #51

I'm not interested in playing games. Total waste of time, causes muscle atrophied. ffr Feb 2018 #55

We'll have to agree to disagree as far as video games are concerned. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #56

This same broad brush Blackjackdavey Feb 2018 #39

Apparently it is okay, provided it's aimed at an "acceptable" target group. N/T Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #44

You make a great point samir.g Feb 2018 #19

Hang on. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #28

Relax and take a time out for a minute. This is a forum where we all get to express our views. n/t ffr Feb 2018 #38

Yes, it is. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #42

Mental illness is already grounds for prohibiting possession samir.g Feb 2018 #52

That's true. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #53

Yes! rainlillie Feb 2018 #21

#ReturnTheNRAMoneyAndResign ascap_scab Feb 2018 #11

Ugh. Heartbreaking. Tatiana Feb 2018 #12

No one wants a belligerent janterry Feb 2018 #26

This is ridiculous Blackjackdavey Feb 2018 #41

Sociopaths are good at making you believe they're normal. forgotmylogin Feb 2018 #14

This, 1000X ... exactly correct ... mr_lebowski Feb 2018 #16

I remember reading in crime fiction, not every assassin can do 'wet work'. Demit Feb 2018 #20

And while I'm in no way blaming video games... forgotmylogin Feb 2018 #34

exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOD POST HERE!!!!!!!!!!! bluestarone Feb 2018 #35

They examined him in 2016! Phoenix61 Feb 2018 #15

If he were involuntarily committed to a mental institution, he wouldn't have been able to legally LisaL Feb 2018 #22

If he'd had an involuntary admission based on it and was adjudicated to stay for treatment... moriah Feb 2018 #30

Reading the headline I thought of Ted Cruz. milestogo Feb 2018 #24

Have a friend with a nutso kid dembotoz Feb 2018 #25

Gov Scott and Traitor Trump - Whose fault is that? Pachamama Feb 2018 #29

There's a difference between disaffected and mentally ill. haele Feb 2018 #40

He probably came across as nice and rational idahoblue Feb 2018 #49

All of this just proves how broken the system is. In real background check, Justice Feb 2018 #54