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35. How so?

Tue Feb 27, 2018, 01:11 PM

Feb 2018

WRT rifles, it bans those that take detachable mags and have 1 of 6 "evil" features. It also bans semi-auto rifles with a fixed magazine capacity of more than 10 rounds, excepting .22 rimires. That's far from all semi-auto rifles.

WRT to pistols, it bans those that take detachable magazines and have a feature like a threaded barrel, barrel, shroud, second pistol grip, etc. Very far from all semi auto-pistols.

Obviously, that's a gross simplification. It also bans, and exempts, a number of firearms by name, among other things, but I can't see how it can be fairly characterized as banning all semi-autos.

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Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons [View all] TomCADem Feb 2018 OP

Good. Make them vote against it. Maven Feb 2018 #1

Agree iluvtennis Feb 2018 #11

Concur MosheFeingold Feb 2018 #25

Smart move by the dems SummerSnow Feb 2018 #66

The Republicans will not allow it to come up for debate. This is why we must retake congress. olegramps Feb 2018 #67

Maybe Democrats are finally learning something. yurbud Mar 2018 #86

This one is broader than the last one, too. samir.g Feb 2018 #2

but but but Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #3

Thats so they can justify it under the commerce clause 47of74 Feb 2018 #64

I don't think the Dems can shame them into voting against banning assault weapons. I just saw, on napi21 Feb 2018 #4

How the hell can you The Mouth Feb 2018 #43

:) (Hi, Napi21.) Don't forget authoritarian duty. Hortensis Mar 2018 #76

Point! The Mouth Mar 2018 #82

This is just as bad as the Franken pile-on. appal_jack Feb 2018 #5

Same RW Neoliberal Military Industrial Free Market Crap TomCADem Feb 2018 #23

The neoliberals are quite happy with gun confiscation. appal_jack Feb 2018 #37

I Dunno. Attacking Gun Control Because, You Know, Freedom... TomCADem Feb 2018 #62

the Second Amendment is not God-given. cvoogt Feb 2018 #27

Did my post mention God? nt appal_jack Feb 2018 #38

Did I say your post mentioned God? cvoogt Feb 2018 #45

At the very least... liberalmuse Feb 2018 #29

The 1st Amendment is limited by common sense and decency. If you go TOO far in your freedom of vkkv Feb 2018 #31

I get that you are hostile to the notion of any rights being fundamental and inalienable. nt appal_jack Feb 2018 #39

No more and no less than you are hostile to nuance. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #42

Nope, Wrong AGAIN Jack! vkkv Feb 2018 #50

It's a moving forward ban. No one is suggesting rounding up existing ones. harun Feb 2018 #32

Read the proposed bill. It bans "possession." nt appal_jack Feb 2018 #40

Are you sure? sl8 Feb 2018 #41

I seem to have been mistaken. appal_jack Feb 2018 #46

No problem. sl8 Feb 2018 #47

Individual liberty to shoot up kids at school? steve2470 Feb 2018 #54

Nice straw man you are attacking there. appal_jack Feb 2018 #60

The NRA is quite clear that they are OK with child gun murders. Dave Starsky Mar 2018 #88

I agree. Cold War Spook Feb 2018 #57

Oh. ChazInAz Feb 2018 #63

Had a ban until 2004 . It would of helped a lot if it wasn't allowed to expire imo lunasun Feb 2018 #6

Dems must show courage. The recent youth movement won't wait oasis Feb 2018 #7

If Dems let the GOP bury it they have it as a campiagn issue BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #8

This bill bans all semi automatic pistols and rifles. Calista241 Feb 2018 #9

Personally, I think this will hurt Democrats in the elections The Mouth Feb 2018 #24

How so? sl8 Feb 2018 #35

Can you name a semi-auto pistol that does not use detachable magazines? appal_jack Feb 2018 #49

Not all rifles with detachable magazines are banned, just the ones that also have 1 "evil" feature. sl8 Feb 2018 #51

Thanks for ferreting-out further details. appal_jack Feb 2018 #61

So, in other words it doesn't actually ban assault rifles. dingosatemyusername Mar 2018 #68

No "assault weapons" ban has ever banned real assault rifles. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #89

How? DetroitLegalBeagle Mar 2018 #80

Thanks for the info. sl8 Mar 2018 #81

Any candidates with an F rating from the NRA Weed Man Mar 2018 #70

Really fucking annoys me to read about 'Bans' without the clarification of 'sales of' ... mr_lebowski Feb 2018 #10

And many of the current owners will be over joyed if this passes as their weapons will skyrocket.. EX500rider Feb 2018 #12

The price will be zero if it's illegal to ever sell it samir.g Feb 2018 #28

Right, cause illegal weapons are free now, right? lol EX500rider Feb 2018 #58

Not if we set up an Australian-style buyback program Weed Man Mar 2018 #71

And how many semi-automatic rifles would you think there are and the avg retail value? EX500rider Mar 2018 #74

Enough to melt it down to a Statute of Liberty size at least 100x Weed Man Mar 2018 #75

It's all about the math..$$$ EX500rider Mar 2018 #77

How many of that 300 million are semi-automatic rifles? SunSeeker Mar 2018 #84

"unlawful for a person to import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess, in or affecting" AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #19

Well, see ... I was unclear about what it meant ... mr_lebowski Feb 2018 #30

That's why I'm all for the gun buyback program at 125% of market value Weed Man Mar 2018 #73

That's not nearly enough money DetroitLegalBeagle Mar 2018 #78

Are you sure? sl8 Feb 2018 #44

Missed that. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #48

So, selling within a state is permitted? JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2018 #55

Another poster pointed out I missed a second clause that exempts currently held AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #56

And why do you need this many guns? Weed Man Mar 2018 #72

Well, if you knew anything about guns, you might know the answer to that question. AtheistCrusader Mar 2018 #79

You are not alone. harun Feb 2018 #34

This Is Not Going To Go Anywhere SoCalMusicLover Feb 2018 #13

True but at least their making a STAND against the NRA instead of hand wringing.... Bengus81 Feb 2018 #18

Here is the text of the bill (PDF link) BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #14

I wonder how many lawyers' billable hours went into that text. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2018 #21

Well they apparently used the "freebie" list from last year's iteration of the bill. BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #22

I guess it's not that much money, as long as they're recycling ... JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2018 #53

google the history.... noneof_theabove Feb 2018 #15

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #33

Holy sh*t! Theres explosive material in a .223 case?! Marengo Mar 2018 #87

THANK YOU DEMS!!! You made my day. NOW let all Republicans vote AGAINST this for the World to see... Bengus81 Feb 2018 #16

Get the Rs on record opposing it mcar Feb 2018 #17

Let the rightys Maxheader Feb 2018 #20

How do you imagine you might die? What do you mean by safeguard, and whats so risky about... Marengo Feb 2018 #65

Don't you always ask for more than cilla4progress Feb 2018 #26

This Republican is willing True Blue American Feb 2018 #36

Go Dems shenmue Feb 2018 #52

K! Cha Feb 2018 #59

The bill will be passed Weed Man Mar 2018 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author James48 Mar 2018 #83

Agreed madville Mar 2018 #85