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GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
34. Never been to Cuba. Been all over Latin America.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 09:14 AM
Oct 2018

Wife is Venezuelan. Been there, and LA about 50+ times over the last 30 years on mission trips to build schools and clinics, and as part of various medical missions. (Operation Smile, etc)

99% of my information on Venezuela comes from first hand sources in Maracay, where the last of my family in Venezuela lives. Information isn't real time, because electricity isn't "real time" in Venezuela. Its on for about 6 hours per day outside of Caracas where the Chavista elite like to live. Internet is hit or miss. No land lines for phones... they haven't been serviced in 18 years or more. No spare parts, as nothing is manufactured in Venezuela. Everything is imported. Every time something breaks, the Chavistas blame sabotage. As if nearly 20 years of neglect in tropical heat/humidity has no effect on infrastructure.

There is no running water in the domicile where my relatives live. They get their filthy water from a truck that only shows up once per week. There is literally sediment in the water, which has to be boiled. The TUY 1 and TUY 2 lines are constantly blowing up from neglect, and there is no spare parts. (an ongoing theme). First the Chavistas blamed Capitalism for "bad construction". Then saboteurs. Then corruption. Then drought (during the wettest season on record). Then the sun being too close to Venezuela.

The local hospital is a wreck. It has no running water, and like the rest of the town, spotty electricity. No back up generators (no spare parts). No insulin, no antibiotics and no dialysis units. One operating room that doesn't do operations because there are no anesthetics or sutures. No autoclaves for sterility. Few doctors and nurses. They left.

Food is by CLAP for the well connected and faithful Chavistas only. If you don't have the Fatherland Card (Chavista Loyalty Card) you get nothing from the Chavistas. All of the food that is supposed to be price regulated at "agreed" prices are impossible to find. The rest of what is found is at real world prices. (based on the dollar, as almost all food is imported)

Schools are almost empty. No teachers, as they spend most of their time looking for food. No students because they have better things to do, like dig through garbage to find food. Besides, schools only teach Bolivarian History and Chavismo. Reading and writing and addition and subtraction? Please... who needs that?

Transportation is abysmal. No buses. People ride in open air trucks called "dog kennels". Gas is very cheap if you can get it. (You need to be a faithful Chavista to get gas now) No new cars. Old cars have no spare parts. No motor oil in a country with the most oil reserves in the world. Most airlines don't fly into Simon Bolivar airport anymore.

And the only people getting paid anything more than minimum wage is the military, which Maduro has blessed with running the PdVSA, which is being bankrupted. They are everywhere. You can't go 5 miles on any major road without being pulled over at checkpoints, where the citizen is usually shaken down. Venezuelans traveling by bus routinely have their suitcases stolen by these thugs. Clothes are precious because nobody can even afford shoes. Strangely enough, you can find red t-shirts with Chavez Eyes logos on them everywhere, for free.

Is there anything specific in the way of information that I can offer you?

FYI. I would be very careful about believing anything that the "LA Forum Spammer" has to offer on what is actually going on in LA. I doubt seriously they have stepped on foot in any Latin American country.

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yes please attack cuba - cuban americans right before a huge florida election. thanks! nt msongs Oct 2018 #1
Got to blame somebody, House of Roberts Oct 2018 #2
Venezuela's largest trading partner is causing most their troubles? EX500rider Oct 2018 #5
Who refines Venezuela's sulfur-heavy crude? House of Roberts Oct 2018 #8
The US still take twice as much of their oil as any other country. EX500rider Oct 2018 #12
The only place that can handle the sludge being pumped out of the Orinoco belt is Citgo in Houston GatoGordo Oct 2018 #17
Have you picked up a paper and read about what is going in in Venezuela? GatoGordo Oct 2018 #15
Divert attention from Saudi Arabia ? left-of-center2012 Oct 2018 #3
This makes me literally laugh the fuck out loud. No Venezuelan has anything but love for Cubans. ancianita Oct 2018 #4
Butt "our" President is a style setter, he has people trying to follow his naturally cool styling! Judi Lynn Oct 2018 #6
All due respect, Ms. Lynn... ancianita Oct 2018 #7
Once you see it, it won't go away! Sorry. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2018 #10
Clearly, the dude on the left is joking around. Dave Starsky Oct 2018 #14
Undoubtedly you're right. I'm sure he did it to make people laugh, or vomit! He did a good job. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2018 #18
It is comedy genius. Dave Starsky Oct 2018 #21
You clearly haven't been to Venezuela GatoGordo Oct 2018 #16
Uh, huh. You've posted these bogus photos before. Any sane person can spot them a mile away. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2018 #19
True, I haven't. But I went to Cuba last year, visited Havana and environs for 10 days, ancianita Oct 2018 #22
Your "proof" they love the Cubans is a government propaganda billboard? lol EX500rider Oct 2018 #35
I see how you think here, but my readings by and about Cubans, my watching their daily TV news, ancianita Oct 2018 #47
The point isn't what the Cubans like but how much the Venz's enjoy Cuban agents in their country,, EX500rider Oct 2018 #50
It was just my first reaction, obviously. These billboards are all over, and Cubans love them. ancianita Oct 2018 #48
another tRumped up charge elmac Oct 2018 #9
He's just looking for more support to continue to kick both countries sinkingfeeling Oct 2018 #11
Cuba is responsible for the genocide in Venezuela GatoGordo Oct 2018 #13
"Cuba is responsible for the genocide in Venezuela" LOL. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2018 #20
You need to cite some sources here to back up your claims, and how YOU come to know so much ancianita Oct 2018 #23
If you spent some time in the DU Latin forum you would know Gato is Venezuelan EX500rider Oct 2018 #25
You say that simply being Venezuelan makes his claims valid? No corroborating links? I think not. ancianita Oct 2018 #28
I spend time there and have never had any belief he has any normal Venezuelan connections. Judi Lynn Oct 2018 #30
That's fine. GatoGordo Oct 2018 #37
You said: "and how YOU come to know so much about Venezuela" EX500rider Oct 2018 #32
Never been to Cuba. Been all over Latin America. GatoGordo Oct 2018 #34
Simply repeating the same allegation over and over again doesn't make it any more true. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #62
It is quite well known the Cubans are helping make Venz a police state. EX500rider Oct 2018 #24
Thank you. At least Trump isn't driving this report. ancianita Oct 2018 #29
Nearly swallowed my tongue seeing your author refer to Petkoff as a "leftwing opposition figure." Judi Lynn Oct 2018 #31
Just because you don't like him does not invalidate the rest of the Guardian story. EX500rider Oct 2018 #33
Your "wikipedia" definition doesn't explain how right-wing propagandists get published there. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2018 #40
TeleSur and Colombia reports more your cup of tea? GatoGordo Oct 2018 #46
Nice movement of the goalposts on your part. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #63
Thank you. Any info for U.S.citizens who want to be good neighbors helps. And Cubans know this. ancianita Oct 2018 #52
Got it, you trust "rebelion.org" more then the Guardian.. EX500rider Oct 2018 #64
Consider the source of that article published in the Guardian. Judi Lynn Oct 2018 #41
Feel free to google "Cuban agents in Venezuela" multiple sources will verify the fact.. EX500rider Oct 2018 #42
Remarkable Marxists those Cubans. To be able to thrive despite "the blockade"? GatoGordo Oct 2018 #45
You haven't dived into the principles of Solidarity. 70% who were born after The Revolution ancianita Oct 2018 #54
Good Democrats care about this. ancianita Oct 2018 #53
In terms of human cost, this is appalling and truly sad. Because of a belief in ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2018 #26
Objective lesson on why to reject Nationalist. Both left and right. GulfCoast66 Oct 2018 #27
WSJ has a similar story about Cuba's hold on Venz: EX500rider Oct 2018 #36
The story is the same all over Central America GatoGordo Oct 2018 #38
Are you referring to the right-wing business-directed "news" publication owned by Rupert Murdoch? nt Judi Lynn Oct 2018 #39
I also posted a left wing Guardian link....there are multiple sources you can google. EX500rider Oct 2018 #43
Remind us again what sources you consider "reliable and objective non-partisan news"? GatoGordo Oct 2018 #44
"By my estimation?" How much is that worth? Most certainly did NOT call them ""right wing" rags". Judi Lynn Oct 2018 #49
"Since the Chvez government got control over the national oil" EX500rider Oct 2018 #51
A similar thing happened when Angolans took over their government with Cuban military and ancianita Oct 2018 #55
The Angolan civil war was after the Portuguese left. EX500rider Oct 2018 #56
After all that, Chavez came to Castro, not the other way around, in 1994. ancianita Oct 2018 #57
You mean Cuba helps Venz maintain a efficient Police State. EX500rider Oct 2018 #59
Before Trump was anti-Cuba, he wanted to open a hotel in Havana Brother Buzz Oct 2018 #58
He's still obsessed with Cuba's hotel business, for sure. From last year: Judi Lynn Oct 2018 #60
He's obsessed with throwing up roadblocks to American hotels trying to make a go of it Brother Buzz Oct 2018 #61
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