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53. Not that I want to necessarily go into conspiracy territory . . .

Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:48 PM

Jan 2019

Assuming everything reported is true, my personal theory is that someone (one or more) involved in the production of "Empire" either tipped off these bozos as to Smollett's routine or movements, or were involved in the beating itself.

Chicago (my home) doesn't generally feel like MAGA territory, but I know there's Trump supporters here and there.

And although show business is generally a pretty liberal-leaning business, there's a lot of blue collar types working crew (lights, trucks, etc.).

Not that I want to slam blue-collar types, but I'm also an actor of color, and I've heard my share of reactionary, racist, crass sh*t from the guys working behind the scenes. And I'm sure some of them get pretty resentful carting stuff for seemingly pampered, successful TV stars and their liberal-leaning politics and ways.

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'Empire' star hospitalized after possible homophobic attack in Chicago [View all] Initech Jan 2019 OP

What, the thugs just happened to have masks and a rope with them? Achilleaze Jan 2019 #1

They must be into that sort of thing. Initech Jan 2019 #3

Out there looking to impress "dear leader." nt Ilsa Jan 2019 #6

According to a gossip site, he recieved this threat earlier: demmiblue Jan 2019 #13

I wonder how they would know unless they were stalking him? Initech Jan 2019 #23

Looks like it was premediated dbackjon Jan 2019 #17

I think you mean premeditated... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #44

Premedication might have stopped it, too. marble falls Jan 2019 #60

"Economic anxieties" strike again Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #21

And bleach, and just happened to ambush him leaving a Subway at 2am? Anon-C Jan 2019 #38

And a jug of bleach? Harker Jan 2019 #42

To bleach him white? generalbetrayus Jan 2019 #48

That crossed my mind as a really sick possibility. n/t Harker Jan 2019 #51

again, idiots making themselves judge , jury and excoutioner. AllaN01Bear Jan 2019 #2

Yikes! Freethinker65 Jan 2019 #4

Very scary dbackjon Jan 2019 #5

I'm not that surprised unfortunately ZeroSomeBrains Jan 2019 #7

The sad thing is Trump could denounce this shit. Initech Jan 2019 #10

He never will denounce these types ZeroSomeBrains Jan 2019 #15

Hell no thegoose Jan 2019 #36

Gee, Cold War Spook Jan 2019 #41

trump's thugs strike again. mwb970 Jan 2019 #8

Fox NY SoCalNative Jan 2019 #9

Bleach, rope, ski masks at 2 am at Subway? jaysunb Jan 2019 #11

You can store a lot of crap in a rusted out '57 Chevy. Initech Jan 2019 #12

Yeah, they were awfully prepared for a random maga nutjob hit. Calista241 Jan 2019 #14

It was premeditated dbackjon Jan 2019 #19

It's sorta believable, but i still have questions. Calista241 Jan 2019 #47

Nooses maybe. But it's very cold in Chicago-- dawg day Jan 2019 #56

Premeditated or not, I have a baraclava and plenty of rope in my car. And I've been know to stop ... marble falls Jan 2019 #61

He had received threatening letters dbackjon Jan 2019 #18

I didnt want to be the first to notice that. oldsoftie Jan 2019 #25

And another dbackjon Jan 2019 #31

Pointing out glaring oddities in a reported crime isnt unreasonable at all. oldsoftie Feb 2019 #73

Maybe he makes 2 am Subway runs regularly TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author Oneironaut Jan 2019 #39

Thank goodness he's not permanently injured. Hortensis Jan 2019 #16

Wow! Things are getting out of control. JohnnyRingo Jan 2019 #20

Deep wound of America Traildogbob Jan 2019 #59

Right on. nt greyl Jan 2019 #64

It's pretty sad that the first reaction from multiple posters dbackjon Jan 2019 #22

yup, sickening obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #24

This NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #26

It's not that unreasonable to question this story, esp. since the OP doesn't explain the previous mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #29

Rational skepticism (by definition) would lead to research of sum or story in question LanternWaste Jan 2019 #30

Yup dbackjon Jan 2019 #32

Nobody downplayed racism and homophobia, dude(tte) ... mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #35

Yes, they are downplaying racism and homophobia by questioning the story. dbackjon Jan 2019 #68

I'm hoping that, if recent developments turn out to be true, that you will apologize LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #86

good to know you are on the case, detective. Inkfreak Jan 2019 #67

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #69

Skepticism in case with very odd circumstances isnt odd at all; follow up is done. Apology accepted. oldsoftie Feb 2019 #74

Yes he is gay tulipsandroses Jan 2019 #34

Yes -noted and who happy feet Jan 2019 #43

+1 it's par for the course here n/t FreeState Jan 2019 #65

My thought exactly (nt) Cass Jan 2019 #70

I am trying to compose myself after seeing this on MSNBC tulipsandroses Jan 2019 #27

Oh right, Chicago is definitely 'MAGA country.' elleng Jan 2019 #28

Are you saying this is false? dbackjon Jan 2019 #33

I'm saying that Chicago (where I lived for 10 years) elleng Jan 2019 #37

Some of the most racist people I know came from Chicago dbackjon Jan 2019 #45

Sad. I lived in Hyde Park (Obabma's neighborhood, elleng Jan 2019 #49

Well, in just trying to develop a hip pocket profile I would note that Chicago... Anon-C Jan 2019 #55

"This is MAGA country" TeapotInATempest Jan 2019 #46

Thanks elleng Jan 2019 #50

Been in Chi since 1973; it's not MAGA country. Chi stopped all MAGA hopes of a 2016 rally, remember? ancianita Jan 2019 #52

Not that I want to necessarily go into conspiracy territory . . . ChicagoRonin Jan 2019 #53

Didnt think of that but it would make a lot of it "fit" oldsoftie Jan 2019 #63

Homegrown terrorism bdamomma Jan 2019 #54

You know they say a leader is reflective of the people who chose them to lead. Initech Jan 2019 #58

Maybe not homegrown. Dr. Strange Feb 2019 #71

thanks for bdamomma Feb 2019 #72

Police sources are telling CNN that the suspects claim Smollett paid them madville Feb 2019 #78

Any pictures of Smollet flipping the bird and mugging on social media? John Fante Jan 2019 #57

I read that the FBI is taking over the investigation madville Jan 2019 #62

Yes let's hope they catch the perpetrators soon n/t FreeState Jan 2019 #66

Police sources: New evidence suggests Jussie Smollett orchestrated attack madville Feb 2019 #75

Plot twist! Initech Feb 2019 #76

Chicago PD is pushing back against this narrative but time will tell. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #77

They're trying to be neutral madville Feb 2019 #82

It's only two sources. and the major networks just feed off one another. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #83

seemed obvious that it was faked janterry Feb 2019 #80

This story is two weeks old snowybirdie Feb 2019 #79

Cops are thinking he orchestrated it. underpants Feb 2019 #81

Whoops at140 Feb 2019 #84

The wasted police man-hours? metalbot Feb 2019 #85

+1 dalton99a Feb 2019 #87

Police wasted time on a fake homophobic attack instead at140 Feb 2019 #88

But how would they have known it was fake when he first reported it? jcmaine72 Feb 2019 #89