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David__77

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18. Medicare for all is totally reasonable.

Tue Jan 29, 2019, 10:08 PM

Jan 2019

If people want to buy stuff on top of that no one would stop them. I’m sure there will continue to be providers who opt to only receive private cash payments, for instance.

I’m sure Harris will get to address this thoroughly a number of times during the campaign. While I can understand being open to alternatives, there’s no substitute to making comprehensive health care a universal right not contingent on personal payment.

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Kamala Harris is open to compromise on private insurers' role during 'Medicare for all' push [View all] brooklynite Jan 2019 OP

Too bad.. ananda Jan 2019 #1

Respectfully, you are incorrect. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #4

Respectfully, your hypothesis is wrong MooDrew Jan 2019 #90

I was talking as much about the political angle as the practical GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #92

It just has to be sold the right way MooDrew Jan 2019 #93

+1 Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #11

It's not possible to pass most legislation without some compromise. She has set her goal, pnwmom Jan 2019 #14

I thought the mantra was Igel Jan 2019 #25

That's Trump's slogan. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #28

Among others. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #83

Agreed, too bad. Magoo48 Jan 2019 #56

*sigh* Well, that didn't take long.... Fiendish Thingy Jan 2019 #2

That would be bad. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #6

People don't understand that Medicare is not free. Not only do people pay taxes for Medicare, when still_one Jan 2019 #15

That is why you will continually see me pushing back on Medicare for all on DU. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #16

I don't know if the Universal Healthcare System in France is right for us or not, but I believe your still_one Jan 2019 #19

Of course our system will not be identical to theirs. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #21

We are pretty much on the same page, but as far as your goal, I wish you the best because I think still_one Jan 2019 #23

I know. But will fight the good fight. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #24

Yeah, it's such a rare unicorn that only the rest of the developed world has some form of it nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2019 #32

You confuse Medicare for all with Universal Healthcare. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #61

Sanders doesn't make a distinction - does Harris? Fiendish Thingy Jan 2019 #73

I don't think everyone agrees with your perception GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #77

Yup, leave it to Bernie to advocate for the people, not the insurance companies... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #31

+ a zillion shanny Jan 2019 #33

Yup, Bernie Would Shutdown The Government And Never Compromise... TomCADem Jan 2019 #42

hahaha, yes!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #46

You do understand how Medicare works, right? Politicub Jan 2019 #74

Maybe her campaign will move him further left on social justice issues ehrnst Jan 2019 #81

Republicans eat shit. That is all. pangaia Jan 2019 #3

It is a LIE spread by repugs that ANYONE likes PAYING for insurance. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #5

We are going to have to pay for healthcare. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #7

We already pay for it. We just don't have it. shanny Jan 2019 #34

Seriously!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #47

Medicare, at present, is funded by a mechanism ehrnst Jan 2019 #84

It's never been. All who get paychecks already pay into FICA, Social Security, which runs Medicare. ancianita Jan 2019 #38

What "health care experts" have stated that all this can be "rolled over into existing Medicare ehrnst Jan 2019 #85

Sure. PNHP is my favorite because they've worked on the data for 32 years. ancianita Jan 2019 #94

Many people say they like the what their insurance provides ehrnst Jan 2019 #82

That is NOT what I stated. Find ONE person that WANTS to pay for Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #96

That was fast. nt Autumn Jan 2019 #8

It sure was... just check it off to a "rookie mistake" I guess. Why we need... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #35

I never bought it. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #91

Medicare as it stands today doesn't eliminate insurance companies. Private insurers offer still_one Jan 2019 #9

Exactly... PeeJ52 Jan 2019 #10

That's the way it was done in Canada - and it took nearly 20 years. ehrnst Jan 2019 #86

A gradual shift would be more practical and easier to implement. Chemisse Jan 2019 #12

How much will it cost you for a supplement or advantage plan? What do yu foresee as 'quite a bit?' pangaia Jan 2019 #17

My husband is currently researching it for me Chemisse Jan 2019 #62

The ACA could be a foundation for a Universal System, and no it wouldn't get rid of private insurers still_one Jan 2019 #20

That's how I saw it. It seemed to be a pathway toward universal. n/t Chemisse Jan 2019 #63

No, Obamacare wasn't...although it would have with a public option. shanny Jan 2019 #36

There's an Advantage Plan that costs $0 per month NJCher Jan 2019 #39

Thanks. We'll have to look for that. Chemisse Jan 2019 #64

We need both.....MEDICARE DOES NOT COVER ALL MEDICAL EXPENSES ..... a kennedy Jan 2019 #13

You have been listening to advertisements for supplement plans, etc. TryLogic Jan 2019 #45

That would be devastating for someone trying to live on Social Security. Chemisse Jan 2019 #65

Medicare for all is totally reasonable. David__77 Jan 2019 #18

First of all when people turn 65, they start paying premiums to Medicare. In addition, people still_one Jan 2019 #22

I get that. This could represent expanding the coverage of Medicare. David__77 Jan 2019 #26

I don't think it has the votes Dave, but it is definitely is an ideal goal to try to acheive still_one Jan 2019 #27

I agree on both points. David__77 Jan 2019 #30

I think most of us here have those shared goals still_one Jan 2019 #37

I think that is smart. Private insurers carry out a lot of functions under Medicare now, Hoyt Jan 2019 #29

"We don't have the votes" NJCher Jan 2019 #40

Wow! You know what, Republicans? PatrickforO Jan 2019 #41

Medicare also rations health care leftofcool Jan 2019 #72

She (They) need to let people buy into Medicare as an option beginning with... TryLogic Jan 2019 #43

Repubs sabotaged ACA and folks complaining about getting rid of the middle man?! djacq Jan 2019 #44

Who likes their plan? Our plans all suck! We need insurance out and health care for all IN! AllyCat Jan 2019 #48

No one is arguing that we don't need reform. And Dems have been fighting for UHC for decades. ehrnst Jan 2019 #88

This: AllyCat Jan 2019 #89

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #49

No it doesn't.. Not at all. I see a lot of members Cha Jan 2019 #54

Sounds to me like people on DU understand Healthcare is complicated GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #70

+1000. ehrnst Jan 2019 #87

It will take multiple steps Midnightwalk Jan 2019 #50

Bookmarked for later. NT. revmclaren Jan 2019 #51

Switched from Advantage to Supplement DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #52

Healthcare costs need to be brought down drastically for healthcare for all democratisphere Jan 2019 #53

Is she compromising or hedging? srobertss Jan 2019 #55

There are things medicare doesn't/won't cover. Afromania Jan 2019 #57

Well ouija Jan 2019 #58

I don't about cowards, but the practicality of patience needs to come to an end. Afromania Jan 2019 #71

A compromise will be necessary to get the necessary votes to reform the system. honest.abe Jan 2019 #59

This is just the beginning of the end. The Truth Is Here Jan 2019 #60

LOL.. honest.abe Jan 2019 #66

So who would you support? marble falls Jan 2019 #67

So if she gets the nomination, you won't vote for her? Or any Dem candidate ehrnst Jan 2019 #80

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2019 #68

I don't want one slim dime.. Maxheader Jan 2019 #69

Medicare uses private insurers today as part of Medicare Advantage Politicub Jan 2019 #75

This is the trouble with newly adopted positions Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #76

Why ouija Jan 2019 #78

Comprising is sometimes necessary in politics Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #79

Amen MooDrew Jan 2019 #95