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53. Supreme Court decision 2005. No duty to protect citizens, only those in custody. So was the perjury

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 04:02 AM

Jun 2019

Last edited Wed Jun 5, 2019, 08:06 AM - Edit history (1)

charge or use of State vs. Federal law? Some State laws go wider in what constitutes a special relationship. Wow. Thanks for post. Haven’t studied police duties since before this decision.
Update: seems the charges in this civil case might over ride the immunity offered by the fed law.

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Florida deputy charged after staying outside school shooting [View all] Eugene Jun 2019 OP

That should torpedo the NRA's 'good guy with a gun' argument quite nicely. Aristus Jun 2019 #1

I am sorry but that is just fucked up genxlib Jun 2019 #2

uh azureblue Jun 2019 #4

I'm not saying he is blameless genxlib Jun 2019 #10

It's a "dereliction of duty" -thing... Blue_Tires Jun 2019 #11

Child neglect is against the law. He was hired to provide a kind of care. He was neglectful. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #12

Yes. He signed on to be a steward of the children in a specialized capacity. TheBlackAdder Jun 2019 #51

Imagine if trained firefighters said oh a real fire I ain't doing that . He had training and took lunasun Jun 2019 #29

If it was a soldier, and fellow soldiers died because he failed to man his post, ooky Jun 2019 #46

Was he trained to rush at an active shooter? yardwork Jun 2019 #67

Look at it this way: if another deputy had been assigned, lives could have been saved, which was JudyM Jun 2019 #5

I agree JonLP24 Jun 2019 #6

It probably would for mass shootings. oldsoftie Jun 2019 #41

Dylan Roof was motivated by hate and there are a lot just like him JonLP24 Jun 2019 #42

They way over charged him. He shouldn't ever be in law enforcement again, but they over charged ... marble falls Jun 2019 #7

Scapegoat. Midnight Writer Jun 2019 #8

As far as I know in a shooting situation most departments require the officer wait for backup ripcord Jun 2019 #18

As the article states, they fired another deputy on the scene, for inaction. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #19

Standard procedure for over 20 years now is first responding officers enter.. DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2019 #22

Nah. If he had diverted the shooters attention lives could've been saved. And he... brush Jun 2019 #30

You should read up on Warren vs the District of Columbia ripcord Jun 2019 #45

What are you advocating. that the officer should've stayed in' in hiding? brush Jun 2019 #54

I'm saying while his actions were wrong they didn't violate any laws. ripcord Jun 2019 #61

If? Might have? Or he "might have" started shooting amidst a crowd of panicked students. Midnight Writer Jun 2019 #48

The protocol for most departments has changed in cases in which there can be mass casualties. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #52

Wasn't it reported the resource officer radioed others to not enter? brush Jun 2019 #56

Wasn't he a trained officer who should know not to shoot into a crowd of students? brush Jun 2019 #55

I just read (sorry did not get the citation)that he was one of four officers on campus, all trained emmaverybo Jun 2019 #62

He was the one who advised responders to stay back. I didn't know there... brush Jun 2019 #63

I'm fuzzy on that. When Coral police got there, they found three deputies. I think these were emmaverybo Jun 2019 #64

When backup arrived he told them stay away from the building csziggy Jun 2019 #59

He was a sheriff's deputy! DeminPennswoods Jun 2019 #20

Bullshit. That was his one fucking job. Dave Starsky Jun 2019 #21

Why are they assigning over the hill deputies to schools JonLP24 Jun 2019 #34

It's not being a superhero to do your best to protect people. Dave Starsky Jun 2019 #36

Departments assign cops all over the place JonLP24 Jun 2019 #37

He was a cop. It was his duty to be courageous. He was derelict in his duty. Period. nt Progressive Jones Jun 2019 #43

What if a Secret Service agent ran from danger and left behind the President? Polybius Jun 2019 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Jun 2019 #3

Yet, if he'd shot a poor black kid, nothing would probably have happened to him. marble falls Jun 2019 #9

Hopefully not MosheFeingold Jun 2019 #58

Nothing is fair in the world Marthe48 Jun 2019 #13

The NRA wants to prove their "good guys with guns" talking point so badly... Initech Jun 2019 #15

I don't know if I could walk into certain death Marthe48 Jun 2019 #16

Too bad there's no way to weed out cowards in police training. But that situation... brush Jun 2019 #27

Wow, this is literally the exact same thing the Seinfeld gang got arrested for. Initech Jun 2019 #14

You are right! Serenity now!!! kairos12 Jun 2019 #17

I feel like we're in the "insanity later" phase! Initech Jun 2019 #23

No, it's not. He failed in his duty as a cop. nt Progressive Jones Jun 2019 #44

Everyone seems to forget he wasn't just a citizen blugbox Jun 2019 #24

Yep. Cowards need not apply. This is as bad as the killer cops shooting unarmed black men... brush Jun 2019 #26

Cops are always going to say they feared for their lives whether they did or not JonLP24 Jun 2019 #35

But not criminally liable? exboyfil Jun 2019 #28

We are thinking sarisataka Jun 2019 #33

False, you are not legally obligated to give cpr, etc, if certified. X_Digger Jun 2019 #39

Exactly. LisaL Jun 2019 #65

Watch the NRA cough up finds to defend this coward. truthisfreedom Jun 2019 #25

Scot(t) Peterson Demon Dem Jun 2019 #31

It will all depend if sarisataka Jun 2019 #32

Absent a special relationship, police have no legal duty to protect anyone. X_Digger Jun 2019 #38

Supreme Court decision 2005. No duty to protect citizens, only those in custody. So was the perjury emmaverybo Jun 2019 #53

WHAT ABOUT COLUMBINE? Jimvanhise Jun 2019 #40

That is why most police department now require immediate intervention csziggy Jun 2019 #60

I'm pretty sure Peterson wasn't carrying a Smith & Wesson M&P15-22 like Cruz. YOHABLO Jun 2019 #47

What you say is most likely true. LisaL Jun 2019 #66

he was cruising until his pension Skittles Jun 2019 #49

Large school with thousands of panicked students. So this guy should have run in guns blazing? Midnight Writer Jun 2019 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2019 #57