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demmiblue

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30. Trump Betrays the Military
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:53 AM
Nov 2019
His intervention in decisions about war crimes undermines the moral standing of the armed forces.

President Donald Trump on Friday cleared three military service members of war crimes, even after being reportedly advised against doing so by Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy. Mr. Trump interceded on behalf of Army Maj. Mathew Golsteyn, who had been charged with murdering an Afghan man; Edward Gallagher, a Navy SEAL who was convicted in connection with posing for a photo with the corpse of a fighter in Iraq; and Army First Lt. Clint Lorance, who, after nine fellow unit members testified against him, had been convicted of murdering two civilians in Afghanistan.

Mr. Trump may believe that intervening pays respect to those who have served in uniform, that it shows he’s “pro-military.” But if this is his view, he’s wrong. In reality, Mr. Trump’s meddling undermines the military’s institutional values, risks endangering American service members, and disrespects the honorable service of the overwhelming majority of veterans.

The military strives to ensure that its members adhere to the laws of war and respect human rights. Service members are trained, for example, to avoid civilian casualties by understanding rules of engagement and following the proper steps for escalation of force. They also learn the appropriate ways to treat detainees, and interrogators are trained to employ only the approved, legal methods.

During my two deployments to Afghanistan, my intelligence work helped lead to the capture of insurgent leaders. Sharing responsibility for their capture and as a recipient of the intelligence produced by their interrogations, I had a sense of moral reassurance in the understanding that my colleagues handled and interrogated the detainees humanely — just as they had been trained.

The lessons service members learn about the laws of war are not an afterthought. Rather, they are central, emphasized time and again — from training sessions and exercises, to military ethics discussions, to actual combat deployments. The Army’s official values, after all, demand that soldiers “do what’s right, legally and morally” and “treat others with dignity and respect,” making no exceptions for civilians or even enemies.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/15/opinion/trump-war-crimes-pardons-gallagher.html

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Dictators, War Crimes, Putting Babies in Cages... madaboutharry Nov 2019 #1
why the hell DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #9
He is practicing. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #2
Yep, this is the warmup. JudyM Nov 2019 #4
Evidently for Trump, war crimes are just fine and dandy. No surprise. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #3
Right now, it is Trump condoning/pardoning war crimes, but in the long run, it will be America appro keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #5
he's kissing up... stillcool Nov 2019 #6
I wonder how many pardons rump will grant when he is forced to leave office...can you ... SWBTATTReg Nov 2019 #7
OK...thought experiment... sdfernando Nov 2019 #8
Interesting post Red Mountain Nov 2019 #10
All good questions sdfernando Nov 2019 #22
The US is not a signatory to the ICC, therefore an indictment would be worthless and dware Nov 2019 #16
Yes I would guess that is true sdfernando Nov 2019 #23
Yes burrowowl Nov 2019 #24
It's also why Cheney NEVER leaves the country. Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2019 #35
Yes they could, but the chances of that happening are minimal. dware Nov 2019 #29
During bush/cheney, of course. calimary Nov 2019 #26
Pres. Clinton signed it but didn't submit it to the Congress, dware Nov 2019 #31
Faux News told him to do this... RainCaster Nov 2019 #11
trump feels better when he frees fellow guilty rats. mpcamb Nov 2019 #12
Our thug (p)Resident Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2019 #13
Just another reason to hate the bastard bluestarone Nov 2019 #14
It's his big "fuck you" to America. He knows that non-MAGAts will be angered and appalled, scarletwoman Nov 2019 #15
Distraction and red-meat to base. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2019 #17
I believe this is a stupid move that will appeal too a very limited number of voters. And lose a Nitram Nov 2019 #18
I think so also. dware Nov 2019 #19
I seriously doubt he'd lose military votes over this. Calista241 Nov 2019 #20
I may be wrong, but I believe anyone who supports that view is a hard core Tump supporter Nitram Nov 2019 #21
I have a pretty good idea, dware Nov 2019 #32
Pardoning Murderers Now... B Stieg Nov 2019 #25
This is a warm up for Roger Stone and Rudy, if Barr allows Rudy's case to go on. gab13by13 Nov 2019 #27
As a veteran BigOleDummy Nov 2019 #28
Only one was convicted of murder, dware Nov 2019 #33
Trump Betrays the Military demmiblue Nov 2019 #30
Bravo Zulu, demmiblue. Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2019 #36
Yeah, who needs military discipline? Yeehah Nov 2019 #34
"'completely dishonors' tens of thousands of American service members" pat_k Nov 2019 #37
Sorry but BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #38
Any administration that makes pat_k Nov 2019 #39
You have conflated his "we" BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #40
Effectively... pat_k Nov 2019 #41
He made a public directive to basically ban the bullshit term "enhanced interrogation" BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #42
Which is why failure to prosecute was so egregious. pat_k Nov 2019 #43
Have you not seen how difficult it is to prosecute just simple stuff right now BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #44
Give me a break... pat_k Nov 2019 #45
I have "read up" and watched panel discussions and hearings at the time. BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #46
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