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Pachamama

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7. We are no better (and likely much worse) than Italy in preparation for what the Coronavirus brings
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 02:19 PM
Feb 2020

We do not have proper measures in place and Americans are not alternating how they go about their lives. Planes from Asia and Europe fly in daily. Those people walk around, possibly infected and have no symptoms for a virus that has been shown to have an incubation period of 14 days and possibly up to 28 days. Secondary infections are appearing in Italy and S Korea. And those people could for weeks have contact with 100’s of people and those people also. Yesterday people across the US went to sporting events, church, synagogues, mosques, concerts and conference meetings. They sat on public transportation in close proximity to each other. On yoga mats near someone they don’t know or who they were in contact with. Classrooms filled with kids, all in close proximity. Dorm rooms on college campuses.

The mom at the grocery store with her cute toddler sitting in the cart who was drooling and giving everyone high-fives (Parents - try using Amazon shopping or getting a friend or neighbor to pick up groceries so you aren’t exposing your child and everyone).

Yesterday thousands gathered at the Staple Center to memorialize Kobe Bryant and his daughter and friends who died. Want to bet there were some people from Italy who traveled there to remember Kobe (who knew him and his father from their time in Italy)? Jimmy Kimmel who spoke encouraged people to reach out to neighbors next to them, even if they don’t know each other - many shaking hands and even hugging strangers.

Can the COVID-19 Coronavirus spread like wildfire and become pandemic in the US?

You can expect it.....its coming and I am very concerned because I see the perfect storm for it to take hold here in the US.

Like Italy, we don’t have enough “testing kits” and no where near the capability to implement mass testing in cases when people go to their physicians, clinics or hospitals when they have symptoms.

We don’t have enough hospital beds and unlike China, do not have the ability to set up emergency hospital beds that would have the proper ICU and necessary care and containment to protect other patients and medical staff from it infecting them.

Medications used for treatment of many of the symptoms and other diseases and conditions in the US (many of which are exasperated by COVID-19) and send people into serious or critical condition are all made in China and are currently already in low supply. A sudden demand to the system will not be able to be met.

I see a disaster headed for us and Indefinitely have little faith in the Trump administration to handle it. They aren’t even doing what needs to be done now and organizing with State Givernors and Public Health Officials to be getting warnings out, preparing and letting people know what they need to do and help them be ready.

I can only suggest to my fellow DUers the following: Take the best care of your immune health that you currently can.was your hands frequently. Carry anti bacterial anti viral wipes and wipe down surfaces like door knobs and shopping carts before touching. Avoid touching stair railings without gloves or escalator rails. Avoid crowded public places and events and venues if you can. Re-schedule travel to events or places, particularly international if you can. Stock up on canned goods and food items that could carry you through at least a month. Have meds on hand and medical supplies, even over the counter that you normally take for granted as being readily available. Have N-95 rated face masks on hand and anti bacterial/anti-viral wipes and cleaning supplies. Figure out a plan for your family members and friends of how to care for each other and also being prepared to be in your home if there is a mass outbreak.

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Yikes 😳 dewsgirl Feb 2020 #1
Given the Trump admin's efforts to quell info for fear of panicking the markets... Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #2
I'm surprised they did as well. The CDC put out a tweet dewsgirl Feb 2020 #3
You mean being a borderline agoraphobic introvert who hates to leave his house might save me? Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #4
IKR same here. I do live with a child though, the germs dewsgirl Feb 2020 #6
LOL !! I'm in the same 'fortunate' situation !! alittlelark Feb 2020 #8
I babysit my grands- Alliepoo Feb 2020 #21
The overall fatality rate is 3.1%, as of two days ago Warpy Feb 2020 #36
Why not hand sanitizer ? What about Lysol products. What products are best for wipe downs lunasun Feb 2020 #56
Just about anything labeled disinfectant will do the job Warpy Feb 2020 #59
Thanks ! lunasun Feb 2020 #60
As a health care provider what stuck in my mind littlemissmartypants Feb 2020 #61
Thanks +the caution you take is not extreme . I live where there is a long flu season during cold lunasun Feb 2020 #62
I'm right moniss Feb 2020 #25
The problem is eventually... forkol Feb 2020 #33
Yes indeed moniss Feb 2020 #40
I'm not agoraphobic or especially introverted, and I still don't like leaving the house much mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #53
This is a post i saw on Stat Medical site ace3csusm Feb 2020 #9
D/L to your system - you should be able to upload from there Hestia Feb 2020 #26
Nope ... there's no file hosting here at DU ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #54
Brave person.. mmbrevo Feb 2020 #19
The fly in the ointment not fooled Feb 2020 #5
We are no better (and likely much worse) than Italy in preparation for what the Coronavirus brings Pachamama Feb 2020 #7
I flew into MIA airport yesterday forkol Feb 2020 #38
This is just more verification that the current situation is not being handled properly Pachamama Feb 2020 #42
Considering the gops attitude towards the cdc.. Maxheader Feb 2020 #10
Okay matt819 Feb 2020 #11
In 2018, Drumpf fired the entire pandemic response chain of command Hestia Feb 2020 #30
I know matt819 Feb 2020 #44
from The Atlantic yaesu Feb 2020 #12
Trump should be quarantined with the virus. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #13
"coronavirus TO spread" TO!! Is it so hard for them to avoid ambiguous headlines? NurseJackie Feb 2020 #14
Mother Nature teaches the GOP about science bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #15
Duck And Cover mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2020 #16
OK, I get the snark. But the potential spread of coronavirus is not a joke, and taking simple Nitram Feb 2020 #24
Sure, the Republican administration could do the right thing, but what are the odds of that? mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2020 #27
But, but , but....tRUMP said not to worry and just now SayItLoud Feb 2020 #17
How the fuck do we "prepare"? Call Legal Zoom and make a will? I'm gonna invest my entire 401K into BamaRefugee Feb 2020 #18
Pay attention to the news, particularly outbreaks in your own community, and take precautions. Nitram Feb 2020 #23
I live and work in an area that has 7 out of 10 of the highest Asian poulation towns in California. BamaRefugee Feb 2020 #43
There's good news that trials for a vaccine will begin in 6 weeks. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #46
Here's a link: Delphinus Feb 2020 #29
Buy a huge supply of SPAM and beer. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2020 #63
Will Trump now fire these public health officials? Loubee Feb 2020 #20
Why would he? Every agency is pretty much corrupted live love laugh Feb 2020 #47
Please remember that "preparing" doesn't mean panicking. Nitram Feb 2020 #22
I keep seeing posts telling DUers not to "panic" or "get hysterical"-- Mrs. Overall Feb 2020 #32
An increase in suicides, a break down in law and order, running for the hills Kaleva Feb 2020 #41
People here are citing ludicrously high death rates. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #45
I'm equally puzzled about why this seems to be Phoenix61 Feb 2020 #52
I suppose it's simply that flu is ordinary and common PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #55
The chart is interesting. I did a quick check Phoenix61 Feb 2020 #57
Penicillin will only matter with illnesses that are caused by bacteria. Not viruses. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #58
You'll find some examples in this thread. Nitram Feb 2020 #64
But!!!! Timmygoat Feb 2020 #28
Yeah, he also said Mr.Bill Feb 2020 #35
I notice that travel insurance is MontanaMama Feb 2020 #31
Duct tape your windows! Renew Deal Feb 2020 #34
I'm going to file my absentee ballot now and find a cave. Throck Feb 2020 #37
Kudlow said they have it contained, "I won't say airtight but pretty close to airtight." progressoid Feb 2020 #39
This takes me back to 1982 and the AIDs/HIV outbreak. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #48
I have stopped playing in Texas Holdem poker tournaments olddad65 Feb 2020 #49
A CDC expert on Rachel Maddow just mentioned... AntiFascist Feb 2020 #50
I listened to Rachel this evening and she really scared me. I was so upset I had to turn her off. katmondoo Feb 2020 #51
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