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Grokenstein

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7. Sweden's got low population density.

Thu Apr 23, 2020, 09:42 AM

Apr 2020

Much like those states in the U.S. where the coronavirus still hasn't gone absolutely hog wild despite Donny's best efforts to let it "wash over us."

Also this, from the linked article: "Unfortunately the mortality rate is high due to the introduction (of the virus) in elderly care homes and we are investigating the cause of that." -- Dr. Anders Tegnell, chief epidemiologist at Sweden's Public Health Agency

While they intended to "protect" at-risk groups, that hasn't worked out so well.

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Sweden resisted a lockdown, and its capital Stockholm is expected to reach 'herd immunity' in weeks [View all] hueymahl Apr 2020 OP

Derp derp derp greenjar_01 Apr 2020 #1

"herd immunity" means "we hope it doesn't get worse" DBoon Apr 2020 #2

They're at 20% now, they say, and expect 60% in a few weeks. pnwmom Apr 2020 #26

"could be reached" IronLionZion Apr 2020 #3

Everyone keeps saying the sick and the old tavernier Apr 2020 #49

Tested positive is different from being dead IronLionZion Apr 2020 #53

there is plenty of question whether "herd immunity" is possible rampartc Apr 2020 #4

The concept of "herd immunity" greenjar_01 Apr 2020 #18

"both epidemiologically stupid and morally repugnant." +1 rampartc Apr 2020 #30

This can all be over much quicker if you let everyone get sick. Renew Deal Apr 2020 #5

Huh? Are you being sarcastic? Red Pest Apr 2020 #43

I'm half joking Renew Deal Apr 2020 #44

Peak the curve and get back to work IronLionZion Apr 2020 #54

No, it's epidemiology. LisaL Apr 2020 #46

LisaL: Your assumption that "it would be over quicker" implies that majdrfrtim Apr 2020 #56

Once this is all over hueymahl Apr 2020 #6

I Agree NonPC Apr 2020 #32

They're bucking the models. Igel Apr 2020 #33

Define "success." - If the definition of success allows for millions of dead, then sure. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #52

Fair Question hueymahl Apr 2020 #59

Sweden's got low population density. Grokenstein Apr 2020 #7

Heheh. Newest Reality Apr 2020 #22

Protecting nursing homes hasn't worked out so well here, either. Igel Apr 2020 #34

they don't even know how long immunity will last, if its even viable with this virus. nt yaesu Apr 2020 #8

Exactly, gab13by13 Apr 2020 #13

You are Rebl2 Apr 2020 #27

In which case there'll be no vaccine. Igel Apr 2020 #35

Or there will be several vaccines. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2020 #48

By this theory Roy Rolling Apr 2020 #9

That's essentially what they're doing William Seger Apr 2020 #12

The same is likely going to happen here just on a smaller curve. Ace Rothstein Apr 2020 #37

I'm afraid you are right hueymahl Apr 2020 #60

I can't believe they didn't consult with some of our epidemiologists in the forum HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #10

Yep, it would be over by now with our expertise. /s Steelrolled Apr 2020 #57

Population density of Stockholm Nasruddin Apr 2020 #11

They've already withdrawn this claim DrToast Apr 2020 #14

+1 GeorgeGist Apr 2020 #21

Trump has already gloated gab13by13 Apr 2020 #15

Only because Sweden is already doing exactly what Trump wants to do in the U.S. n/t OnlinePoker Apr 2020 #23

Sweden has twice the recorded cases as its neighbor Norway BlueIdaho Apr 2020 #16

Meanwhile, Sweden's fatality rate is 12.06%...only behind the UK, Italy and France in Europe. LudwigPastorius Apr 2020 #17

Maybe they overestimated Turbineguy Apr 2020 #19

Probably. Igel Apr 2020 #36

Trump is all for herd immunity... as long as he's the herd C_U_L8R Apr 2020 #20

He's what comes out of the herd's ass. n/t OnlinePoker Apr 2020 #24

Herd immunity only works when you have ONE form of disease...Not with over 35 mutations. Ford_Prefect Apr 2020 #25

Lots of assumptions there. Igel Apr 2020 #38

More on this story: hay rick Apr 2020 #28

I believe that test results from China and South Korea are showing... AntiFascist Apr 2020 #29

Not large. Igel Apr 2020 #40

I thought I recalled reading it was 30%... AntiFascist Apr 2020 #63

Fewer than 200 moosewhisperer Apr 2020 #42

I'm not sure if this link will show... Sancho Apr 2020 #31

I am one of the few non-experts on the wisdom of Sweden' approach Steelrolled Apr 2020 #39

No crow will be consumed. Igel Apr 2020 #41

If what works? LisaL Apr 2020 #45

I think we still need to keep the crow on the ready Steelrolled Apr 2020 #47

This is a highly controversial in Europe and Anders Tegnell is highly controversial himself. marble falls Apr 2020 #50

They're far from reaching herd immunity mainer Apr 2020 #51

They're at the US equivalent of 65,000 dead NickB79 Apr 2020 #55

Based on the opinion of one person... Hugin Apr 2020 #58

could work in a country where 3/4 are not overweight and lack health insurance or fear the costs Skittles Apr 2020 #61

They are steadily climbing up the list of deaths per million Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #62