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In reply to the discussion: Jobless rate soared to 14.7% in April as U.S. shed 20.5 million jobs amid coronavirus pandemic [View all]progree
(12,817 posts)39. Here's the graph of the U-6 unemployment rate -- the broadest measure that BLS produces
Last edited Fri May 8, 2020, 03:25 PM - Edit history (4)
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS13327709It is often called the under-employment rate because it includes part-timers who say they want full-time jobs. Another way that it differs from the official unemployment rate (U-3) is that U-6 counts jobless people who have looked for work in the past 12 months, while U-3 counts those who have looked for work in the past 4 weeks.
Here it is from the beginning of the series in 1994 (these graphs have a way of disappearing in a few hours or days) :

^--Edit: DAMN, that sure didn't take long to disappear. I don't know why it does, Grrrr. A few years ago, it used to last the entire month until the next monthly update.
Well, here's one starting at 1995 (strangely, the one started at 1994 didn't show the graph, even at the BLS site, even though it did earlier). Let's see how long this one lasts:

What I'm seeing on the graph is that it spikes up to just a little over 15%, but the table below it says 22.8% in April 2020. Anyway well over what it was at the Great Recession peak ( 17.2% ).
The low point, 6.7% in December 2019, is also the low point for the series ( in April 2000 it bottomed out at 6.9%, the other time period when it was almost that low )
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Jobless rate soared to 14.7% in April as U.S. shed 20.5 million jobs amid coronavirus pandemic [View all]
BumRushDaShow
May 2020
OP
I'm waiting for the usual crowd to start up with the "I don't trust the numbers" chant.
mahatmakanejeeves
May 2020
#6
It's fun, isn't it? I don't mean this month's numbers, but the constant hitting of
mahatmakanejeeves
May 2020
#13
"...brought employment to its lowest level since February 2011.." (?) Try June 1999, BLS.
sandensea
May 2020
#42
Looks right to me -- it's talking about the Establishment Survey's nonfarm payroll employment
progree
May 2020
#43
Which is funny, b/c they usually use the Population Survey as the metric for emp/unemp data
sandensea
May 2020
#47
The BLS always presented it this way -- the Establishment Survey data for the number of jobs, and
progree
May 2020
#48
I just gave it to you: The Statistical Abstract of the U.S. (as far back as you like)
sandensea
May 2020
#52
Then the survey size is of no importance? What the BLS reports on the sample size of the
progree
May 2020
#53
"When presidents crow about how "since taking office x million jobs have been created..."
progree
May 2020
#54
Interesting - the 2012 Statistical Abstract includes the Establishment Survey beginning
progree
May 2020
#56
And the DOW is up 300 points?!? They seeing a lot of good in 20M losing their jobs?
Bengus81
May 2020
#29
Yep....highest unemployment since the Great Depression but Wall St. says..eh,could have been worse!!
Bengus81
May 2020
#35
We've been reading all day Thursday that 33 million have filed unemployment claims, and the week
progree
May 2020
#34
Quick....tell investors that the BLS is looking at unemployment numbers of 35% in June
Bengus81
May 2020
#57
I agree, there will come a point when "horrible but not as bad as expected" no longer works n/t
progree
May 2020
#58
Coronavirus costs the U.S. 20.5 million jobs in April, unemployment soars to 14.7%
UpInArms
May 2020
#15
That will be the next data he will hide or modify to suit his reelection. They're not quite...
machoneman
May 2020
#20
Not as bad as expected, according to MarketWatch's 15 economists. S&P 500 up 1.19%, Dow up 1.36%
progree
May 2020
#28
Unemployment rate may be almost 5% higher than the reported 14.7%, says BLS in so many words:
progree
May 2020
#31
Here's the graph of the U-6 unemployment rate -- the broadest measure that BLS produces
progree
May 2020
#39
wait for Trump to accuse the BLS of being the dreaded "deep state" conspiracists and....
steve2470
May 2020
#40
"I will be the greatest jobs president that God has ever created," Trump, June 16th, 2015.
usregimechange
May 2020
#45
