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52. I just gave it to you: The Statistical Abstract of the U.S. (as far back as you like)

Sat May 9, 2020, 02:00 PM

May 2020

The good people at the Census Bureau were kind enough to upload all back issues: https://www.census.gov/library/publications/time-series/statistical_abstracts.html .

In the 'Labor Force, Employment, and Earnings' chapters of any of those from recent decades, the first table most of them posted was (naturally) the one on Civilian Employment.

Very first table in the chapter.

They always used the Population/Household Survey. Why? Because it's more complete, with a consistent inclusion of a few more million jobs than the Establishment Survey you're referring to.

When presidents crow about how "since taking office x million jobs have been created..." that's the table their speechwriters are taking the data from.

And with good reason: it's more complete.

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Which is funny, b/c they usually use the Population Survey as the metric for emp/unemp data sandensea May 2020 #47

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They were still cherry-picking. It's the lowest since 1999, not '2011' sandensea May 2020 #49

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I just gave it to you: The Statistical Abstract of the U.S. (as far back as you like) sandensea May 2020 #52

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