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The Animator

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32. Has anyone ever bother to ask what Mr Lennon would have wanted?
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 09:42 PM
Sep 2020

As far as the death penalty debate.
The pros and cons of both arguments are as old as capital punishment itself. Whether or not it’s an effective deterrent or constitutes cruel and unusual punishment are irrelevant until we address a much bigger, deeper problem.

Our justice system is deeply flawed and we have not lived up to our obligation to provide equal justice under the law.

The same justice system that freed Brock Turner, the little shit who raped a girl behind a dumpster, is the same system that has jailed rape victims for killing their attackers in self defense.

We have executed people who were later found to be innocent. That scumfuck Scalia even said “mere factual innocence is no reason not to carry out a death sentence properly reached."

People of color regularly receive far harsher penalties for the same infractions as whites for no justifiable reason.

I’m not implying that Champan was innocent. No way in hell. But the existence of the death penalty in general is ludicrous in the face of us knowing full well how fucked up our justice system is.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk...

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Glory... Harker Sep 2020 #1
Make a perfect.... SergeStorms Sep 2020 #17
May this man rot in hell kwolf68 Sep 2020 #2
I think we're going to see lots of violence in the near future matt819 Sep 2020 #3
Anytime Yoko leaves or goes into the Dakota.... dubyadiprecession Sep 2020 #4
And ...? marble falls Sep 2020 #26
She still lives there? Wabbajack_ Sep 2020 #56
He deserved the death penalty over and over again. May he rot. Autumn Sep 2020 #5
Nobody deserves the death penalty. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #6
Right, why commit the same act for which the executed one committed himself? George II Sep 2020 #9
I disagree. Lunabell Sep 2020 #10
Absolutely. Murdering to stop murder makes no sense. marble falls Sep 2020 #11
Aren't you the one who wants him released? RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #16
If the only reason at this point he is inside is to get even with him, I think 40 years ... marble falls Sep 2020 #21
If it wasn't John Lennon, would he be out now? 3Hotdogs Sep 2020 #23
Important question! That's an example of how sentencing is not impartial. marble falls Sep 2020 #24
Post removed Post removed Sep 2020 #25
I think its weird in a discussion about capital punishment you decided to take a personal cut at me. marble falls Sep 2020 #27
Post removed Post removed Sep 2020 #28
So your whole argument is ad hominem? You might want to refresh on the ToS. marble falls Sep 2020 #29
Why would it ? there have been many people who committed crimes after getting out JI7 Sep 2020 #34
Really. Do you have any figures about how many people recommit murder after 40yrs in stir? marble falls Sep 2020 #36
No, But even if they didn't commit another crime taking one life is enough to lock them away for JI7 Sep 2020 #37
Why? marble falls Sep 2020 #38
punishment for taking a life JI7 Sep 2020 #39
Eye for an eye may be an attitude but it doesn't represent justice. It does't even act ... marble falls Sep 2020 #41
The reasons for our high murder rate have to do with a lot of things like availability of guns JI7 Sep 2020 #42
What I said was long terms do not seem to have any effect on crime. So why do long terms? marble falls Sep 2020 #43
As punishment for the crime of taking a life. He shouldn't be released no matter who he killed JI7 Sep 2020 #44
I think it says just the opposite.There should be shorter terms. What is being accomplished ... marble falls Sep 2020 #45
What says the opposite ? JI7 Sep 2020 #46
What are you trying to accomplish with longer terms? marble falls Sep 2020 #47
punishment JI7 Sep 2020 #48
So words like "reformatory", "penitentiary", "corrections system", "justice" means nothing ... marble falls Sep 2020 #53
Post removed Post removed Sep 2020 #49
GReedDiamond..... diverdownjt Sep 2020 #51
Thankyou. marble falls Sep 2020 #54
Who's defending Chapman? Forty years are enough if he shows contrition and behaved ... marble falls Sep 2020 #55
I has a poster in the 60's that read: SeattleVet Sep 2020 #12
life in prison cell until he dies of natural causes then. Some people should not demigoddess Sep 2020 #35
The death penalty is unethical and immoral. Thankfully there is no death penalty in New York State. George II Sep 2020 #8
Is war unethical and immoral? Shermann Sep 2020 #13
A creative, though thoroughly unsupported hypothesis you allege. LanternWaste Sep 2020 #19
I never saw his "declaration of war on society", any chance you post it or link it? marble falls Sep 2020 #22
I agree, although not because it was Lennon that he murdered. Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 #30
Fuck him Lasher Sep 2020 #7
Why is any news media outlet customerserviceguy Sep 2020 #14
Thrill killers need to stay locked up Warpy Sep 2020 #15
Well, I agree that he deserves/d the death penalty. raccoon Sep 2020 #18
Oh, well that will bring John Lennon back. Aristus Sep 2020 #20
Yes, well.... Yorkist Sep 2020 #31
Has anyone ever bother to ask what Mr Lennon would have wanted? The Animator Sep 2020 #32
Total agree kwolf68 Sep 2020 #33
The day after the assassination I was in the recording studio xfreedom2020 Sep 2020 #40
Like this... GReedDiamond Sep 2020 #50
You don't make parole when you state, "Yeah, I did it -- and I'd do it again." no_hypocrisy Sep 2020 #52
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