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49. I thought the Texas law only allowed for lawsuits, not arrests..??

Fri Apr 8, 2022, 10:58 PM

Apr 2022

Wasn't that supposed to be why the law couldn't be challenged, even though it went against Roe's constitutional right to an abortion in the first trimester?

It was supposed to only subject the provider of an abortion (or anyone who "aids & abets" the woman in obtaining it), to lawsuits. The woman herself is not subject to the lawsuits, just the providers, aiders, and abetters. The person(s) filing the lawsuits could get the $10,000 bounties.

But there was to be NO actual law enforcement, arrests, or charges, only the civil suits. That's the whole point -- there is no criminal element to the law, therefore no means to challenge the constitutionality of it.

All I can figure is, either the Sheriff's Office and/or the Prosecutor's Office really screwed the pooch on this one, or the lady was so far along in her pregnancy that she fell outside the protection of Roe (which is still valid as of the moment).

Or I'm missing something.

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Texas Woman Charged With Murder for 'Illegal Abortion' [View all] Native Apr 2022 OP

Kickin' with DISGUST Faux pas Apr 2022 #1

DISGUSTING . . . . Haggis 4 Breakfast Apr 2022 #45

i read that it was someone at the hospital barbtries Apr 2022 #110

Same! However the DA did drop the charges mahina Apr 2022 #127

The War on Women is about to become true genocide--FEMICIDE hlthe2b Apr 2022 #2

Exactly. niyad Apr 2022 #77

A clump of cells is not "an individual." Novara Apr 2022 #3

No it is not Rebl2 Apr 2022 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Apr 2022 #102

I miss the Soviet Union. Turbineguy Apr 2022 #4

I miss the Taliban... n/t TeamProg Apr 2022 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Apr 2022 #103

Who is surprised at this? Anyone? Hekate Apr 2022 #5

Nope. I'm waiting to jail the first women with a stillbirth as a murdress. Warpy Apr 2022 #6

And we know they will. Miscarriages, too. Hekate Apr 2022 #50

Only for certain miscarriages only Bengus81 Apr 2022 #72

If the father was a Repug Rep or someone with $$$ MarcA Apr 2022 #7

Yep Rebl2 Apr 2022 #23

OMG, charged with murder. No details on how or how far along she was. ?? txwhitedove Apr 2022 #8

Handmaid's Tale llmart Apr 2022 #14

The teacher would be arrested now. SergeStorms Apr 2022 #37

This was actually in North Carolina. llmart Apr 2022 #39

I remember having some of those NC teachers. OldBaldy1701E Apr 2022 #69

I remember a different Texas, too Random Boomer Apr 2022 #108

Jesse Helms - ugh... llmart Apr 2022 #109

It is still my favorite place to be. OldBaldy1701E Apr 2022 #122

THIS is why I could never watch the show. Hit too close to reality and prescient to what is to come hlthe2b Apr 2022 #81

i read that in HS too keroro gunsou Apr 2022 #106

It will in OK soon. Beartracks Apr 2022 #27

Unbelievable. Diamond_Dog Apr 2022 #9

There are thousands more and numbers are climbing..... Lovie777 Apr 2022 #10

The Constitution says clearly that an offspring is not deemed a person of citizenship until they TeamProg Apr 2022 #11

No it doesn't. LeftInTX Apr 2022 #60

You missed my point entirely. TeamProg Apr 2022 #93

Every state has criminal laws against harming fetuses. LeftInTX Apr 2022 #107

Was she under surveillance? Where did this info come from? bucolic_frolic Apr 2022 #13

which person has a grudge against her or a score to settle? DBoon Apr 2022 #15

Don't forget that $10,000 reward! Native Apr 2022 #17

That's the incentive, right there. SergeStorms Apr 2022 #40

She was seen eating beet soup in a diner. milestogo Apr 2022 #26

Is this a case for the ACLU? mysteryowl Apr 2022 #16

And Texas is ground zero for executions - #1 @ 563, next in line is GA @ 74 Native Apr 2022 #18

Yes, the sanctity of life..... SergeStorms Apr 2022 #42

WAKE UP TEXAS! Cozmo Apr 2022 #19

good luck. prob 100 RW radio stations in texass. but 5 universities broadcast sports on, support, 16 certainot Apr 2022 #31

is there forced fatherhood? are miscarriages illegal too? pansypoo53219 Apr 2022 #20

K&R Solly Mack Apr 2022 #21

Enough! We must vote these self righteous bastards out Joinfortmill Apr 2022 #24

Self induced.? WTF...and she ain't in the Abbot "folks" ashredux Apr 2022 #25

"Self-induced" is what jumped out at me, too. intheflow Apr 2022 #67

Abortion pills, per another article. TX trying to outlaw those as well. niyad Apr 2022 #124

Why do women put up with this shit? ramapo Apr 2022 #28

Are you a woman? Hekate Apr 2022 #29

Are you f****** serious? Native Apr 2022 #30

What a question. ShazzieB Apr 2022 #58

Here we go: "decided to pursue the arrest after it was told...." DFW Apr 2022 #32

Told by a bounty hunter for the $10,000 reward. It certainly would be only fair if their names... Hekate Apr 2022 #52

Someone at a hospital? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2022 #59

Thanks for this! I couldn't find anything more. LeftInTX Apr 2022 #61

If hospital staff turned her in, isn't that a HIPAA violation? mcar Apr 2022 #70

$10,000. n/t mtngirl47 Apr 2022 #84

A nurse in the hospital obamanut2012 Apr 2022 #100

This is only the beginning DownriverDem Apr 2022 #33

echoing downriver dem: this is only the beginning orleans Apr 2022 #34

We are in "civil war." They want us in bondage or serfdom with no rights except fealty. Fuck 'em. Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #35

And so it begins. Our rapid descent into lunacy, misogyny and persecution. Fla Dem Apr 2022 #36

We have been there for quite some time. niyad Apr 2022 #94

Not to the point of arresting women under a terrible law. Fla Dem Apr 2022 #113

Sorry, but there have been multiple cases over the years of women jailed niyad Apr 2022 #125

"So it begins"??? GenThePerservering Apr 2022 #112

Thanks for the heads up. In case you missed it another poster already posted to make me aware. Fla Dem Apr 2022 #114

Oh, Texas..... ShazzieB Apr 2022 #38

Time to take to the streets big time! This is fucked up on an epic level! nt Quixote1818 Apr 2022 #41

THIS is what Jesus wants! dchill Apr 2022 #43

Is there a Go Fund Me page to donate to help bail her out? I hope this is a case for the ACLU. in2herbs Apr 2022 #44

Just an observation, Native...if we cannot get people to turn out en masse to PatrickforB Apr 2022 #46

I'm confident we will fight back. Native Apr 2022 #47

The War is here. Old Testament patriarchs fighting a rear guard war against equal rights. Martin68 Apr 2022 #48

I thought the Texas law only allowed for lawsuits, not arrests..?? Moosepoop Apr 2022 #49

SB4 - separate law Native Apr 2022 #54

Thank you, Native. Moosepoop Apr 2022 #56

I read the law can only prosecute providers..(doctors etc) LeftInTX Apr 2022 #62

It sounds that way, but I read several articles that state this is how they will be able to go after Native Apr 2022 #75

I think this is the crux of the matter.... Native Apr 2022 #78

I wonder if her fetus had reached viability? LeftInTX Apr 2022 #88

Or the hospital has some ridiculously, overarching reporting policy designed to cover their Native Apr 2022 #89

Republic of Gilead - Enough is Enough walkingman Apr 2022 #51

I know Starr County...one of the poorest counties in the nation. pecosbob Apr 2022 #53

OMFG. A blastocyst is not an "individual." SunSeeker Apr 2022 #55

Will Texas women be required to wear burqas next? KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2022 #57

Texas Taliban Novara Apr 2022 #63

okay, here we go. E. Normus Apr 2022 #64

We all know that will never happen. This is all about women, not babies. Native Apr 2022 #65

You know E. Normus Apr 2022 #66

And we're off mcar Apr 2022 #68

The Christofascist are wrong. The Jungle 1 Apr 2022 #71

Lizelle Herrera dalton99a Apr 2022 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Apr 2022 #105

We are now El Salvador. roody Apr 2022 #74

and the WAR ON WOMEN continues apace. Would you consider cross-posting this in niyad Apr 2022 #76

Niyad, can you please cross-post it? Native Apr 2022 #79

My pos computer will not let me link or copy and paste. niyad Apr 2022 #80

How do I cross post? Native Apr 2022 #90

Same way you did it here. niyad Apr 2022 #95

Just link to this page? Or do you just want the original post duplicated? Native Apr 2022 #96

If you woud, please, I would like the original post duplicated. niyad Apr 2022 #97

You got it. Native Apr 2022 #101

Will they give her the death penalty? CrispyQ Apr 2022 #82

Great post. Thanks! Native Apr 2022 #83

Updated my OP with more info. Native Apr 2022 #85

Texas will next start burning women at the stake suspected of witchcraft. Bonfires of Vanities up Pepsidog Apr 2022 #86

Certainly not at the top of the list of awfulness in this story, but... BobTheSubgenius Apr 2022 #87

Is there any proof? or is a simple accusation enough to damn someone? Blue_Tires Apr 2022 #91

It didn't escape my notice that the first person to get charged was a minority Blue_Tires Apr 2022 #92

A minority with a significantly-sized conservative segment in Texas. Paladin Apr 2022 #98

Take us back to the glorious days of witch dunking tanks, GOP... Take us back... Blue Owl Apr 2022 #99

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Traffic Stop mackdaddy Apr 2022 #111

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So they lynch women in Texas now orangecrush Apr 2022 #116

It really is TIME - NotANeocon Apr 2022 #117

America is moving backwards at breakneck speed SpankMe Apr 2022 #118

Less lethal than AK47 NotANeocon Apr 2022 #119

this was quick DonCoquixote Apr 2022 #120

Well, Texas certainly has the best track record in that department! Native Apr 2022 #121

This was the desired outcome for Texas Republicans dlk Apr 2022 #123

Charges dropped by the DA Old Crank Apr 2022 #126